Even Money Roulette vs Blackjack

[esoito]

Hopefully Malcop will spot this thread and offer his comments.

He has previously authored several baccarat methods so his insights will be very helpful to this debate.

[N0vocane]

Yeah I just learned to play and it is really easy. So easy that I would love to learn some awesome systems. the "beating roulette with math" strategy could possibly be applied to baccarat with better results. Maybe even the Midas Method. Anyone think the same?

[mr.ore]

BTW Baccarat is theoretically countable, but practically absolutely not:

link:://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/baccaratapx2.html

I wonder, if that information COULD be used with progressions? It is possible to count, which side is more biased, while banker bet is still preffered most of the time of course...

Card
Removed    Count Adjustment
    Banker    Player    Tie
0    188    -178    5129
1    440    -448    1293
2    522    -543    -2392
3    649    -672    -2141
4    1157    -1195    -2924
5    -827    841    -2644
6    -1132    1128    -11595
7    -827    817    -10914
8    -502    533    6543
9    -231    249    4260
Average    0    0    0

In order for any given bet to become advantageous the player should divide the running count by the ratio of cards left in the deck to get the true count. A bet hits zero house edge at the following true counts:

    * Banker: 105791
    * Player: 123508
    * Tie: 1435963

Too big values, does not happen often enough to be of practical value... But what if someone created a bet selection based on these counts, which would decrease house edge, while not eliminating it. Just thinking, maybe it is useless and best is just to play on banker. Of course if simulated then this could be added to system and max. out bets when this happens, like postponing high bets to more favourable times...

[Proofreaders2000]

"You know I've always wondered why roulette players don't just play baccarat."--Frost

Because every roulette player wants to be the one who can turn $500 into $10000 in a day like Kim Larsen (every time)---and explain why their method "crushes" the house edge.

[flukey luke]

Now people are going to start asking about Kim Larsen.  

Here are the facts!

It was alledged a video crew followed him around the casino one day where he turned 500 into 10000. No such video has ever surfaced.

He setup a website to sell his system. (sure beats earning 10k a day playing roulette)

The system was not even his own system. It was floating around the net for ages before this guy starting hawking it.

Here it is.

1) Play the last number that showed up, then play the second last two numbers, and so on, up to 12 last numbers.

2) This is the progression you need

first 7 spins: 1 chip each on last 7 numbers
8 and 9 the spin: 2 chips on last 9 numbers
10 the spin: 3 chips on last 10 numbers
11 the spin: 4 chips on last 11 numbers
12 the spin: 5 chips on last 12 numbers

Not trying to be a smart arse or anything, it just saves people a bit of time wondering who this guy is.  

p.s. excuse me for interrupting the thread.

[N0vocane]

Lol, I actually use that roulette system with a slight variation and it works. Didn't know this guy was selling it though. I attached a RX file, run some tests with it and you will see it always comes out on top.

[frost]

Didn't know this guy was selling it though. I attached a RX file, run some tests with it and you will see it always comes out on top.

mayb it wernt a myth

[N0vocane]

No his system doesn't work. But the way it's coded in that file with the modification does.

The secret is always input the profit for 1, nothing more. The program will always make at least 1 unit, usually between 10-20 but in rare cases 1 or 2. Once you show a profit quit and start a new session. I've ran it through thousands of spins and it has never not taken at least 1 unit.

If you play long enough, trying to go for 100+ units it will crash sometimes. But I've seen it come out of the hole on from -2000 units! Play it and see for yourself