DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT ICEMAN'S APPROACHES

[esoito]

I've started this thread so that your posts won't be deleted. (Well, any that run contrary to Forum Rules will be, of course!)

His main thread has degenerated into a soliloquy.

It seems that questions are unwelcome. Dissent is verboten. And there's only His Way and The Wrong Way.

Now I don't know about you, but to me the purpose of a forum is to debate, discuss and even disagree, as long as it is done is a spirit of politeness, respect and in a genuine pursuit of truth.

So. Over to you...That's assuming you can see anything of any value that is worth discussing.

[iceman1313]

Hi esoito

I explain to you already .When people see 400 posts they will not even try and go though them all. I sure would not . I even got rid of some of mine as to leave the topic much easy to learn

There is no testing I already tested this system and many others also and said that it works fine. But it's a slow system but will win every day.It's a pay check.

You can't improve this system any better I did that for all of you.

The iceman1313

[vundarosa]

Hi esoito

I explain to you already .When people see 400 posts they will not even try and go though them all. I sure would not . I even got rid of some of mine as to leave the topic much easy to learn

There is no testing I already tested this system and many others also and said that it works fine. But it's a slow system but will win every day.It's a pay check.

You can't improve this system any better I did that for all of you.

The iceman1313

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ICE, you say you don't play online. I do. Your system loses online just like any other...it has a poor win/loss rate

i've posted the some sections as *proof* but you've deleted them and said nothing about nor corrected them if indeed I played them wrongly...

U keep saying people want to trash your system but you do not own up and show SEVERAL sections where your system wins, only rethoric...that's not good sir, not good!

MAYBE you just need to realize the system doesn't work online...
MAYBE you just need to realize you can be wrong sometimes
MAYBE you just need to realize your system can be improved

but if u don't allow scrutinity and act all paternal how can it be?!

HOW can anything in the world improve with a mindset like this "You can't improve this system any better I did that for all of you." --ARE u smarter than ALL people, EVERYwhere, EVERYtime?!

sorry, but ur coming accross extremely arrogant...as they say, "knowledge puffs up"...


not trying to attack you, but, do think about these things....

vundarosa

[albertojonas]

"Everything  must obbey the big law of math and the transparent math i only teach to five people in the world. i even beat loto, blablablabla..."

You can't even give clear and concise instructions on your own system.

also every forum i saw you posting in was all the same.

is the world all wrong? I wish sometimes you had a secret worth beating roulette, but you are everything but polite or even clear.

Get a Grip.

CYA

[Luckoftheirished]

This crazy James Wendel has started countless threads and posted thousands of responses in many different forums and what has he got to show for it?

His evens method is garbage.   I tested it personally using Excel and it could not even beat a perfectly fair 50/50 game. 

[ThomasGrant]

Being a mod.
I would like to remind all members to at least try to abide by the guidelines.

We all. All of us. Have different ways that we play.
We may not agree with other members and the way they are playing.
Especially when they think there way is the only way.
And when members disagree with a post or ask questions.
It is the INITIAL post moderator. IE: The person that started the post.
To have control over who and what is posted.
Even if he/she deletes a post from members/mods.
That is one of the things Victor gave us member's.
Now I know many may or may not agree with this.
But it is fair. Try to keep things civil.
Try to keep your posts and comments or questions.
To an amicable tone.
Any post that violates or condescends other members.
Or any member that posts derogatory or uses terms that seem to insult others.
Will be BANNED and posts will be DELETED.

We as MODS.
Keep an eye out for members.
We try to keep an open mind.
And normally give people enough rope to hang themselves.

Victor has enough on his plate.
That is why there are mods.
We try to be fair.
We try to be even.
Any member that starts a fight in here.
Well... we have enough violence in the world as it is.
None will be tolerated in here.

If you have a topic. Or a post that you are unsure about.
Or wish to post something about roulette that your unsure about.
Then ASK. Ask the mods.
Ask Victor.

As for Iceman.
I have followed his posts.
With some interest.
As far as I can see.
He has not broken any rules.
He may be a bit abrasive towards others.
Especially when they ask difficult questions.
But he has his way of doing things.
I may not agree with him.
Or the way he responds.
But he has a way to play roulette.
And that is why members come here.
To read, to be entertained.
And to find out methods or ways to play.

Some of us have flown of the handle at others.
So just be a bit cautious as to what you may say.
Write your post.
Read your post before posting.
Take a few deep breaths.
And read it again.

My mum says.
If you can't say anything good about someone.
Then it is better to not say anything at all.

Even though we may disagree.
We strive to educate.

Every one has a point of view.
It's all in how we express that point of view that counts.

So before expressing your point of view.

Think about what your trying to say.
And say it with some tact if you can.

[iceman1313]

AMEN
The iceman1313

[atlantis]

Hi esoito,

It's good you started this thread anyway - it means he can't delete any members' posts here.
And the other topic where he did this to me and others is now locked. Good.
To counteract this you will see he will probably start a new thread about making world history and will continue to delete certain replies not to his liking...

A.

[esoito]

Hi esoito,

It's good you started this thread anyway - it means he can't delete any members' posts here.
And the other topic where he did this to me and others is now locked. Good.
To counteract this you will see he will probably start a new thread about making world history and will continue to delete certain replies not to his liking...

A.

LoL...he's started doing that already! It's called 'reverting to type'.

[albertojonas]

Why do you make this spam announces?

what's the teasing all about?

and the bragin'?


if you're so busy why don't you post it when you have the time instead of 100 useless posts before. Still you are the one who advocates clean threads.
i am very interested in your new findings and still have respect for your vanguradish ideas regarding roulette, but it is your kind of speech that does not address it write.

There are various members on this forum who has very advanced and inovative concepts as well, like thomas G, winkel, Ego, and many others. They all fit here and are assertive in theiir comunication skills.

There are severall other members of great value constantly testing and bringing new ideas like the eternal glc, atlantis, kattilla, proofreaders, etc...

there are excellent mods also.

James Wendel, or wannawin, or iceman1313, or...

please take profit of this forum valuable resources and members.

 

"this post is a copy from a thread were many things are wiped out"

[albalaha]

I have earlier raised questions about the credentials and behaviour of this fellow Iceman1313. So far, he has been very arrogant and unclear. He wants to get the entire roulette player community bent towards him and beg him for his holy grail techniques. Remember a very vital thing about roulette or any other form of gambling, only way that you can earn is to speculate and take risk of your money which you can lose as well, irrespective of whichever method you play.

[esoito]

I'm not sure what happened to Chris' Icecream Man thread. It disappeared without trace or reasons.

Meanwhile, we patiently wait for The System To Beat All Systems in glorious technicolour and with full details.

[catalyst]

I had a dream. In my dream I met an iceman on an iceberg in a icy cold weather. He was preaching:

behold folks! how nice and good it is for brethren to have a paycheque of $800 per week and dwell together in unity! here is my ten commandments-- follow ot and hollow it every single step. but time and unforseen occurences hidden in the hidden math will fall unto you in your multi dimension. neither you nor your heart will be pleased to your heart's contents in the third dimension.

Amen.

[albertojonas]

I had a dream. In my dream I met an iceman on an iceberg in a icy cold weather. He was preaching:

behold folks! how nice and good it is for brethren to have a paycheque of $800 per week and dwell together in unity! here is my ten commandments1 follow ot and hollow it every single step. but time and unforseen occurences hidden in the hidden math will fall unto you in your multi dimension. neither you nor your heart will pleased to your heart's contents in the third dimension.

Amen.

twilight zone systems are the best

[esoito]

And if you want a good laugh take a look here:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/humor/re-the-iceman1313-will-post-here-into-the-mods-open-my-topic/msg54080/?topicseen#msg54080