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Simple even chance betting - R/B 3 in a row

Started by Halba1, Jun 22, 05:00 AM 2011

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Halba1

Here is a simple Even chance betting for Roulette or baccarat.

It involves martingale staged progression up to 8x, then use GLC's even chance method in the money management section

1,2,4,8 and stop okay. then follow his system over there.

But first here is the simple strategy:

wait for 3R or 3B and bet ONCE the opposite. If LOSE, then wait same thing again. count the zero, so if RR0R doesn't count, it has to be 3 CLEAR are in a row. e.g. R0RRR is fine. do this until 8x martingale, then apply GLC's method , and let it ride on the next trigger.

this is played hit and run. get your unit target and get out.

i did this for with impressive results. max i got was to 8x. but atleast with his method not do or die after 8x.

ZeroBlue

I may add something to your simple system :P

you can play for a series of three to become a series of four or play against it - is the same.

you can also had the idea for chops then you have more betting opportunities

if you see three chops in a row you can bet they will or will not become 4 chops.

regarding the progression you may try something more soft.

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Or even this Bayes recomendation i will take the permission to quote
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[reveal]This is my favourite MM for the even chances, I've experimented with many over the years, but I keep coming back to this. It was sold a few years ago but has been off the market for a while now so I don't suppose I'll get sued for posting it.  

The core of the method is similar to "Oscar's Grind", where you freeze bets after a loss and raise them on a win, but Trioplay has a built-in stop-loss mechanism and other safety factors.

Start by writing the number 1, and after every loss, you add to a "count":

W 1
L   1,2
L   1,2,3
L   1,2,3,4

when you get a win, cross of the FIRST number in the count, and this is your next stake.

Continuing from above:

W 2,3,4  -- next stake 2 units

Continue to cross off ONE number on each win until you have a profit (new high balance), after which you reset the count to 1.

Now, when the difference between the last number in the count and the first number is greater than or equal to 5, you cross off TWO numbers on a win, not one.

L 2,3,4,5
L 2,3,4,5,6
L 2,3,4,5,6,7
L 2,3,4,5,6,7,8
W

You have a win. The last number in the count is 8, and the first is 2, and 8 - 2 = 6 which is more than 5, so you now cross off TWO numbers, so your next stake will be 4 units:

W 4,5,6,7,8

Whenever you have a win, you continue to cross off TWO numbers from the count even if the difference between the first and last numbers falls to less than 5 - you stay in "mode 2" until you are back in profit (or until the next part of the system comes into play). Again, when (if) you are back in profit you reset the count to 1.

Suppose the count keeps climbing, so you might have this situation:

L 8,9,10,11,12,13

Now, if the count reaches more than 12, the next time you win, you cross off THREE numbers, this is mode 3. Suppose the next spin gives a win:

W 11,12,13  -- you have crossed off 8, 9, 10 so your next stake is 11 units.

So you can see that the stakes will never get too out of hand, because whenever the losses mount up you are crossing off more numbers and so are likely to cross off all the numbers and so return to a count of 1 (one unit stake).

However, as we know, sh*t happens. So there is an additional safety rule which says that IF THE SUM OF THE COUNT IS GREATER THAN 100, YOU SHOULD RESET THE COUNT TO ONE.

e.g. You might have this:

L 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15

and 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 = 110 so you should reset the count to 1.

That's it. Obviously you can experiment by choosing other values, for example, try waiting until the difference between the first number of the count and the last is 7 or 8 instead of 5 before crossing off 2 numbers. I've tried tweaking various things, but the recommended parameters are pretty good for the most part.

The recommended bankroll is 100 units, but I usually use at least 200.

Also, if you feel that the stakes are getting too high, just reset to one, or drop to half the stake and carry on. It's not the holy grail on its own, but it's a good MM plan. Pick your favourite bet selection and give it a whirl.[/reveal]

Halba1

I tried it again and I got bankrolled. there you go.

that's roulette for ya. I guess the time-breaker systems are better.

ultimately zeroblue you cant really win in this game, as it has a high house edge

ZeroBlue

 :)

i have been winning for the past 30 years...

at least take a better shot at it.
;D

Aleexx

hello

what about this system, i guess u all ready know about it , but i take a shoot and expose it

lets's say the last hand was a red and go and place 1 chip on red , and it goes on black , you have -1 , now we are changeing the color to black and we bet 2 chips , and it goes on red, we have -3, we are changeing the color again on red and bet 4 chips and it goes on red and we have + 8 , after that we keeping the color red but we go on the fist bet again that will be 1 chip. . . . . and if is goes on zero, we keep the color that was before 0 but we double the bet and so on. . . . is similar with martigale, but u have the advantge if u get 8 red's in a row or 8 black for example  u will win 1 chip for evry one , instead of lose like in martigale. . . the problem is if u get series of R/B/R/B/R/B/R/B/R/B/R/B/R/B , you need a big bank roll , tho i never saw on live rullete more then 6-7 hands like that . . . . waiting for your opinions. . . . and play smart

Alex

ZeroBlue

follow the last...
as good as any other selection.

Halba1

Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 22, 06:43 AM 2011
:)

i have been winning for the past 30 years...

at least take a better shot at it.
;D

all the stuff you sent me in PM. i studied it, and tested it. none work. you put all the strategy in hindsight. live its a different story. its all even chance. its all bull zeroblue. if it worked you wouldn't be on here.

Hermes

Aleexx I saw 14 chops! It would weep you off. If played hunter system and wait until you see 5 chops and than bet on appearance of double you have better chance to survive with smaller bankroll. You can do it on all 3 ECs simultaneously.
Hermes

ZeroBlue

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 22, 07:34 AM 2011
all the stuff you sent me in PM. I studied it, and tested it. none work. you put all the strategy in hindsight. live its a different story. its all even chance. its all bull zeroblue. if it worked you wouldn't be on here.
i am an optimist.
;D

i am sorry to waste your time.
i do not play any system as you should know by now, i already have the advantage i need.

Halba1

Yeah I got a massive headache from all that info. but anyway thanks for the even chance progression. i needed something like that


Halba1

Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 22, 06:31 AM 2011
I may add something to your simple system :P

you can play for a series of three to become a series of four or play against it - is the same.

you can also had the idea for chops then you have more betting opportunities

if you see three chops in a row you can bet they will or will not become 4 chops.

regarding the progression you may try something more soft.

[attach=#]
[attach=#]

Or even this Bayes recomendation I will take the permission to quote
" "
[reveal]This is my favourite MM for the even chances, I've experimented with many over the years, but I keep coming back to this. It was sold a few years ago but has been off the market for a while now so I don't suppose I'll get sued for posting it.  

The core of the method is similar to "Oscar's Grind", where you freeze bets after a loss and raise them on a win, but Trioplay has a built-in stop-loss mechanism and other safety factors.

Start by writing the number 1, and after every loss, you add to a "count":

W 1
L   1,2
L   1,2,3
L   1,2,3,4

when you get a win, cross of the FIRST number in the count, and this is your next stake.

Continuing from above:

W 2,3,4  -- next stake 2 units

Continue to cross off ONE number on each win until you have a profit (new high balance), after which you reset the count to 1.

Now, when the difference between the last number in the count and the first number is greater than or equal to 5, you cross off TWO numbers on a win, not one.

L 2,3,4,5
L 2,3,4,5,6
L 2,3,4,5,6,7
L 2,3,4,5,6,7,8
W

You have a win. The last number in the count is 8, and the first is 2, and 8 - 2 = 6 which is more than 5, so you now cross off TWO numbers, so your next stake will be 4 units:

W 4,5,6,7,8

Whenever you have a win, you continue to cross off TWO numbers from the count even if the difference between the first and last numbers falls to less than 5 - you stay in "mode 2" until you are back in profit (or until the next part of the system comes into play). Again, when (if) you are back in profit you reset the count to 1.

Suppose the count keeps climbing, so you might have this situation:

L 8,9,10,11,12,13

Now, if the count reaches more than 12, the next time you win, you cross off THREE numbers, this is mode 3. Suppose the next spin gives a win:

W 11,12,13  -- you have crossed off 8, 9, 10 so your next stake is 11 units.

So you can see that the stakes will never get too out of hand, because whenever the losses mount up you are crossing off more numbers and so are likely to cross off all the numbers and so return to a count of 1 (one unit stake).

However, as we know, sh*t happens. So there is an additional safety rule which says that IF THE SUM OF THE COUNT IS GREATER THAN 100, YOU SHOULD RESET THE COUNT TO ONE.

e.g. You might have this:

L 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15

and 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 = 110 so you should reset the count to 1.

That's it. Obviously you can experiment by choosing other values, for example, try waiting until the difference between the first number of the count and the last is 7 or 8 instead of 5 before crossing off 2 numbers. I've tried tweaking various things, but the recommended parameters are pretty good for the most part.

The recommended bankroll is 100 units, but I usually use at least 200.

Also, if you feel that the stakes are getting too high, just reset to one, or drop to half the stake and carry on. It's not the holy grail on its own, but it's a good MM plan. Pick your favourite bet selection and give it a whirl.[/reveal]

it works quite well(the chart you posted with all the stages). I got into a hole while in baccarat, but eventually after it chopped a lot, I got a win streak back to positive. IT doesn't dig you into a hole like some of the other systems like martingale, and when you get a win streak you are back to positive territory.

bet selection - Bet opposite of last hand.

ZeroBlue

it is not important if you play against it or in favor of it...

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