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Contrasting Couplets

Started by atlantis, Aug 27, 01:56 PM 2011

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atlantis

CONTRASTING COUPLETS
================

This is a revision/update of an idea I originally introduced earlier into the CODE 4 thread and I think worth preserving and isolating it here for testing purposes.

Record 2 ECs in matrix 4 fashion.
I'm using H/L and O/E alternated.

For example the spun numbers 17, 11, 3, 32 are recorded on a line as:
LOLE (Low Odd Low Even)

For example the spun numbers 22, 9, 3, 14 are recorded on a line as:
HOLO (Low Odd Low Even)

It's simple: Play an alternating pattern of "Opp-Same-Opp-Same"/"Same-Opp-Same-Opp" directly against the vertical line column results on the previous line.

Switch patterns after each line of 4 results.

Start recording the EC and LW Registry results for O-S-O-S first and then switch to S-O-S-O and alternate throughout. (see example)

Playing and betting rules:

RULE#1: Start  betting and play for a win ONLY after a virtual "L" result on a line.

RULE#2: Stop as soon as ANY winner obtained on that line. (unless no winner obtained on that line in which case carry on to next line at appropriate progression level and pattern)
A virtual "L" or a losing bet "L" at the end of a line of 4 means you restart or continue betting on the next line (after any required progression calculation)
 
RULE#3: Check and adjust progression line (if necessary) at the end of EACH LINE.

RULE#4: Safety Stop rule. If experiencing a run of 6 consecutive betted L's - STOP betting until a virtual winner occurs then resume betting after a qualifying virtual L as normal at the appropriate unit stake.

Progression Line: 11112222333344445555...etc...

Example Session:

HOLO (START @1-1-1-1)
LEHE (OSOS)  wlwl  +1   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)  w1st@col3
HOHE (SOSO)  lwwl  +1   (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w2nd@col2
LEHE (OSOS)  wllw  +2   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)  w1st@col1
HOLE (SOSO)  lwwl  +3   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)  w1st@col2
LEHE (OSOS)  wlww +4   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)  w1st@col3
HOLE (SOSO)  lwll    +5   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)  w1st@col2
HOHE (OSOS) l:  +5   (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w2nd@col2
HOHE (SOSO) wlwl   +6    (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1) w1st@col3
HEHE  (OSOS) lllw    +4    (2 behind so go up to 1-1-2-2) w4th@col4
HOLE  (SOSO) wwll   +3    (3 behind so go up to 1-2-2-2)
HOLO  (OSOS) lwll    +4    (2 behind so go down to 1-1-2-2) w3rd@col2
HOLO  (SOSO) wlwl   +5   (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2) w1st@col3
HELO  (OSOS) lllw    +4    (2 behind down  to 1-1-2-2)   w4th@col4
LOLE   (SOSO) l: +5   (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2) w1st@col2
LELO   (OSOS) llll      +2   (4 behind so up to 2-2-2-2)
LOLE   (SOSO) :w +4   (2 behind so down to 1-1-2-2) w4th@col1
LOLE   (OSOS) lwlw    +5   (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2) w1st@col2
HEHE  (SOSO) lwll      +6   (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1) w1st@col2
LEHE   (OSOS) wwlw  +7   (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w1st@col4
LEHE   (SOSO) wlwl    +8   (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w1st@col2
HOHO  (OSOS) wlll     +9    (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w1st@col1
HEHE  (SOSO)  :w +10  (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w1st@col1 
LOHE  (OSOS)  wllw    +10  (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1) w2nd@col4

+10 profit.
Highest Bet = 2
LLR=3

I suggest play on nozero or single 0 with "le partage" rule.

If zero appears in a line - you can either do
A) no betting at all on below line (void) or
B) use the EC above the 0 in that column

Maybe can use to win 3 or so units then skedaddle and relogon for next session.

Session on some numbers Chrisbis posted today from BVNozero:

HOLO (START @1-1-1-1)
LELE  (OSOS) WLLL         -2 (2 behind so go up to 1-1-2-2)
LOLE  (SOSO) WWWL     -1 (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2)
LELE  (OSOS) LLLW         -2 (2 behind so go up to 1-1-2-2) 
LELE  (SOSO) WLWL       -1  (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2)
HOLE  (OSOS) WLLL       +0  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
HOLE (SOSO)  WLWL      +1  (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HOLE (OSOS) LWLW       +1  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
HELO (SOSO) WWWW    +2  (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HELO (OSOS) LWLW       +3   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HELO (SOSO) WLWL       +4  (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HOLE (OSOS) LLLW         +2  (2 behind so up to 1-1-2-2)
HOLE (SOSO) WLWL       +3   (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2)
LELE  (OSOS) WLLW       +4  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
HEHO (SOSO) LLLW        +3  (1 behind so up to 1-1-1-2)
HEHO (OSOS) LWLW       +4  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
LEHO (SOSO) LLWL         +4  (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HOLE (OSOS) WLWL       +5   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LOHE (SOSO) LLLL          +1  (4 behind so up to 2-2-2-2)
HOHE (OSOS) WWLW     +3  (2 behind so up to 1-1-2-2)
HOHO (SOSO) WLWW     +4  (1 behind so down to 1-1-1-2)
LOHO (OSOS) WWLW     +5   (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
LELO (SOSO) WWLL       +4   (1 behind so up to 1-1-1-2)
HELE (OSOS) WWLL       +5   (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
LOLO (SOSO) LWWW      +5   (0 behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LOLE (OSOS) LWLL         +6   (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HELE (SOSO) LWWL       +6   (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HEHO (OSOS) LWWL      +6   (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LOLO (SOSO) LWLL        +6   (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LEHE (OSOS) LLWL         +5  (1 behind so up to 1-1-1-2)
LOHE (SOSO) WWWL     +6  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
LOHO (OSOS) LWLL        +6  (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LEHE (SOSO) WWWW    +7  (1 ahead so stay at 1-1-1-1)
HELO (OSOS) WWWL     +7  (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LELO (SOSO) LLWL         +6  (1 behind so up to 1-1-1-2)
HOLE (OSOS) WLLL        +7  (0 behind so down to 1-1-1-1)
LEHO (SOSO) LWLW       +7  (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LOLO (OSOS) LLWW       +7  (0  behind so stay at 1-1-1-1)
LXXX   ENDED W

+7 profit
Highest Bet=2
LLR=4

Cheers,
A
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Nathanael

CONTRASTING COUPLETS
================

Atlantis friend,
Why timid?
Bet big

Bet 1-3-7-15  No change
1st win, wait next line

HOLO (START @1-3-7-15)
LEHE (OSOS)  wlwl  +1
HOHE (SOSO)  lwwl  +3
LEHE (OSOS)  wllw  +4
HOLE (SOSO)  lwwl  +6
LEHE (OSOS)  wlww +7
HOLE (SOSO)  lwll    +9
HOHE (OSOS) l:  +11
HOHE (SOSO) wlwl   +12
HEHE  (OSOS) lllw    +16
HOLE  (SOSO) wwll   +17
HOLO  (OSOS) lwll    +19
HOLO  (SOSO) wlwl   +20
HELO  (OSOS) lllw    +24
LOLE   (SOSO) l: +26
LELO   (OSOS) llll      0
LOLE   (SOSO) :w +1
LOLE   (OSOS) lwlw    +3
HEHE  (SOSO) lwll      +5
LEHE   (OSOS) wwlw  +6
LEHE   (SOSO) wlwl    +7
HOHO  (OSOS) wlll     +8
HEHE  (SOSO)  :w +9 
LOHE  (OSOS)  wllw    +10

HOLO (START @1-3-7-15)
LELE  (OSOS) WLLL         +1
LOLE  (SOSO) WWWL      +2
LELE  (OSOS) LLLW          +6 
LELE  (SOSO) WLWL        +7
HOLE  (OSOS) WLLL       +8
HOLE (SOSO)  WLWL      +9
HOLE (OSOS) LWLW       +11
HELO (SOSO) WWWW    +12
HELO (OSOS) LWLW       +14
HELO (SOSO) WLWL       +15
HOLE (OSOS) LLLW         +19
HOLE (SOSO) WLWL       +20
LELE  (OSOS) WLLW       +21
HEHO (SOSO) LLLW        +25
HEHO (OSOS) LWLW       +27
LEHO (SOSO) LLWL         +30
HOLE (OSOS) WLWL       +31
LOHE (SOSO) LLLL          +5
HOHE (OSOS) WWLW     +6
HOHO (SOSO) WLWW     +7
LOHO (OSOS) WWLW     +8
LELO (SOSO) WWLL       +9
HELE (OSOS) WWLL       +10
LOLO (SOSO) LWWW     +12
LOLE (OSOS) LWLL         +14
HELE (SOSO) LWWL       +16
HEHO (OSOS) LWWL      +18
LOLO (SOSO) LWLL        +20
LEHE (OSOS) LLWL         +23
LOHE (SOSO) WWWL     +24
LOHO (OSOS) LWLL        +26
LEHE (SOSO) WWWW    +27
HELO (OSOS) WWWL     +28
LELO (SOSO) LLWL         +31
HOLE (OSOS) WLLL        +32
LEHO (SOSO) LWLW       +34
LOLO (OSOS) LLWW       +37
LXXX   ENDED W             +38

If no LLLL, win big!

Nate
Don't think that because your system has never lost, it can't lose.  Always be prepared for the worst.

atlantis

Hi Nate,

It's not timidity, it is just simple caution :)
I'm not a big fan of rising progressions like that.

By betting after an "L" and stop at a winner on a line until next qualifier -  and having a safety measure of stop after 6 betted L's until a virtual win then restart after an L you will hopefully prevent large losses from occurring.

e.g.:
LLLL
LLLL
LLLL

That *could* happen (although hasn't to me so far - yet)

With the stop rule after 6 consecutive losses you are down only total 8 units: 1-1-1-1-2-2 and can restart @ 2-2-3-3 for recovery.

You also avoid betting losses that come after a win on the same line e.g.:

WWWL - bet after an L
WLLL   - won@1stbet. stop. waiting to bet on NEXT line can avoid L's!
LWWW - won@2ndbet. stop.

I will be playing for real later this week using hit'n'run :)

Quick game on BVNoZero:

HELO   First Line
LEHE   OSOS   WWWL
LELE   SOSO    WLLL      +1 (1-1-1-1)
HEHO  OSOS    WWWL   +2
HEHO  SOSO    WLWL     +3
HEHO  OSOS    LWLW     +3
LOLO   SOSO    LWLW     +4
LELE   OSOS    LLLL        +0 (U TO 2-2-2-2)
LOHO  SOSO    WWLL    +2 (D TO 1-1-2-2)
HOHO  OSOS   WWLW    +3 (D TO 1-1-1-2)
LELE   SOSO    LWLW     +4 (D TO 1-1-1-1)

Stopped at +4. (could have stopped at +4 at spin 28 also)

Love it!

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Another session at BVNoZero:

HELE
HELO  OSOS    LWLL      +1  1-1-1-1
HELE  SOSO    WLWL     +2  1-1-1-1
HOLO  OSOS    LLLL        -2  2-2-2-2 (4 BEHIND)
HOHO  SOSO   WLLL      +0   1-1-2-2 (2 BEHIND)
LELE   OSOS    WLWL    +1   1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LEHE   SOSO   WLLL      +2   1-1-1-1
HOLO  OSOS    WLWL    +3   1-1-1-1
LOLE   SOSO    LLWL     +2   1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LEHE   OSOS    LLWW    +1   1-1-2-2 (2 BEHIND)
LOLO   SOSO    WWLW   +2  1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LOHO  OSOS    LWWW    +3  1-1-1-1
HELE  SOSO     LWLW     +4  1-1-1-1
HELO  OSOS     LWLL      +5  1-1-1-1
HEHO  SOSO    WLLL      +6  1-1-1-1
HELO   OSOS    LWWW   +6  1-1-1-1
LOLO   SOSO    LWWL     +7  1-1-1-1

+7
HIGHEST BET=2

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

GLC

Quote from: atlantis on Aug 28, 09:56 AM 2011
Another session at BVNoZero:

HELE
HELO  OSOS    LWLL      +1  1-1-1-1
HELE  SOSO    WLWL     +2  1-1-1-1
HOLO  OSOS    LLLL        -2  2-2-2-2 (4 BEHIND)
HOHO  SOSO   WLLL      +0   1-1-2-2 (2 BEHIND)
LELE   OSOS    WLWL    +1   1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LEHE   SOSO   WLLL      +2   1-1-1-1
HOLO  OSOS    WLWL    +3   1-1-1-1
LOLE   SOSO    LLWL     +2   1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LEHE   OSOS    LLWW    +1   1-1-2-2 (2 BEHIND)
LOLO   SOSO    WWLW   +2  1-1-1-2 (1 BEHIND)
LOHO  OSOS    LWWW    +3  1-1-1-1
HELE  SOSO     LWLW     +4  1-1-1-1
HELO  OSOS     LWLL      +5  1-1-1-1
HEHO  SOSO    WLLL      +6  1-1-1-1
HELO   OSOS    LWWW   +6  1-1-1-1
LOLO   SOSO    LWWL     +7  1-1-1-1

+7
HIGHEST BET=2

A.

Another excellent system A.

I was just telling a friend that if you want a solid system that requires an affordable bank roll, then look at big A's systems.

This one looks great to me.  I know there's a way for it to head south, but with good money management, I think this could churn out 5 chips a day (session) regularly.

I'm going to put everything else on hold for a while and run some tests with you so we can show the world how this one performs. :thumbsup:

G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

marivo

Looks very fine tuned system!

atlantis

Hi Guys,
Been busy today so not much time - but just did session at BVNoZero.

Bit of a slow grind this one, but hung on in there and persisted to finish in profit at +5.

Total Spins=197
Highest Bet=2
Highest Pattern = 2-2-3-3
Lowest Bankroll = -6
Max Drawdown = 8

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

amk

Hello Atlantis,

Method looks solid, thanks for all your work............

Once came across a progression which was 1a1b1c2a2b2c3a3b3c etc...........

After a win at say 2b we go down to 2a if win again then go to 1c if lose then go up to 2a, if win drop down again to 1c again. We continue the progression until we are a unit up then start over again....

I will have to review my notes to see if I covered all the angles was many months ago...........

marivo

BV noZ
RESULT = +5
Total Spins=76
Highest Bet=2
Highest Pattern = 2-2-2-2
Lowest Bankroll = -2
Max Drawdown = 4

marivo

BV NoZ
Result=-56
Total Spins=108
Highest Bet=11
Highest Pattern = 11-11-12-12
Lowest Bankroll = -56
Max Drawdown = 58 


Here I lost control (I think  ??? ).

L   E   H   O                         1111         
L   E   L   E   OSOS   LWWL   1111         1
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LWWW   1111         1
H   O   H   E   OSOS   LWWL   1111         2
L   O   H   E   SOSO   LLWL   1112         1
L   E   H   O   OSOS   LLLL   2233         -4
H   O   L   E   SOSO   LWLW   2233         -4
L   E   H   E   OSOS   WLWW   1222         -1
H   E   L   E   SOSO   LLLL   3334         -7
H   O   L   O   OSOS   LLLL   4555         -13
H   E   H   E   SOSO   WWLW   3344         -8
H   O   L   E   OSOS   LLWW   3334         -7
L   E   H   O   SOSO   LWLW   2233         -4
L   E   L   O   OSOS   LWWW   2222         -2
L   E   H   O   SOSO   WLLL   3333         -6
H   E   H   O   OSOS   WWLW   2223         -3
H   O   H   O   SOSO   WWWL   2223         -3
H   E   H   E   OSOS   LLLL   4455         -12
H   O   H   O   SOSO   WWWW   3344         -8
L   E   L   O   OSOS   WLWW   2233         -4
L   E   H   O   SOSO   WLLL   4444         -10
L   O   H   O   OSOS   LLLW   6666         -18
H   O   L   E   SOSO   LLLW   7788         -24
L   O   L   O   OSOS   WWLL   99 10 10         -32
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LLWL   11 11 12 12      -40
L   O   H   O   OSOS   WWWW   8999         -29
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LLLL                            -56

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atlantis

Hi Marivo,
I replayed your session as I would have played it:

L   E   H   O                                   
L   E   L   E   OSOS   LWWL    +1 (0 behind) 1-1-1-1
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LWWW  +1 (0 behind) 1-1-1-1
H   O   H   E   OSOS   LWWL   +2 (0 behind)  1-1-1-1
L   O   H   E   SOSO   LLWL     +2 (0 behind)  1-1-1-1
L   E   H   O   OSOS   LLLL      -2  (4 behind)  2-2-2-2
H   O   L   E   SOSO   LWLW    -2  (4 behind)  2-2-2-2
L   E   H   E   OSOS   WLWW  +0  (2 behind)  1-1-2-2
H   E   L   E   SOSO   LLLL       -4  (6 behind)  2-2-2-3
H   O   L   O   OSOS   LLLL      -10 (12 behind) 3-3-3-3 *stop after 6 L's
H   E   H   E   SOSO   WWLW  - 7 (9 behind) 2-3-3-3
H   O   L   E   OSOS   LLWW    -7 (9 behind) 2-3-3-3
L   E   H   O   SOSO   LWLW    -5   (7 behind)   2-2-3-3
L   E   L   O   OSOS   LWWW   -3   (5 behind)  2-2-2-3
L   E   H   O   SOSO   WLLL     -7   (9 behind) 2-3-3-3
H   E   H   O   OSOS   WWLW  -5   (7 behind)  2-2-3-3
H   O   H   O   SOSO   WWWL
H   E   H   E   OSOS   LLLL       -15 (17 behind) 3-3-4-4
H   O   H   O   SOSO   WWWW -12 (14 behind) 3-3-3-4
L   E   L   O   OSOS   WLWW    -9  (11 behind) 3-3-3-3
L   E   H   O   SOSO   WLLL      -15 (17 behind) 3-3-4-4
L   O   H   O   OSOS   LLLW      -17  (19 behind) 3-4-4-4
H   O   L   E   SOSO   LLLW      -20  (22 behind) 4-4-4-4
L   O   L   O   OSOS   WWLL    -24  (26 behind) 4-4-4-5
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LLWL      -28  (30 behind) 4-5-5-5
L   O   H   O   OSOS   WWWW  -24 (26 behind) 4-4-5-5
H   O   L   O   SOSO   LLLL        -37 (41 behind) 5-5-5-6

-37

Well it is bad result and could spell the end of this approach. Thanks very much for your testing, Marivo.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

marivo


True! I should stop betting there. Anyway, thank you!


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