2L +1 --- 2W -1

[Jordan]

I was just thinking for hours :
"what the hell can we do to win more than we lose?How can we play safe?How can we bet on every single spin in order to not get bored with the triggers between the spins? etc etc...."

I was trying one of the progressions that VIC posted a wile ago...But it was too dangerous.....

So I thought of this progression and I tested 1000 consequtive spins and I was HIGHER and HIGHER +  without a lot of DOWNS! So I guess a stop-loss and a win target may make all better....

OK as I do not belive in bet selections in Roulette(because Random can not be predicted) I was playing this progression(I thought of) by just betting all the time the same colour!
And as I was playing I realised that betting the same EC in every spin with this progression is the best think we can DO! Because it supposed that in the long RUN the REDS and the BLACKS will come even and this really helps.

THE PROGRESSION.

It is really very simple!

After 2 consecutive LOSSES we ADD +1 chip
After 2 consecutive WINS we MINUS -1  chip
And after any new + in the BR we restart with only 1 chip.

It may sounds  the same with the +1 on a loss and -1 on a win BUT I have never seen so steady and safe profits with this as I experienced with MY progression.
Also with teh +1 after a LOSS and -1 after a win there are times that we can easily being in the place that we will have to bet more than 20 chips!!!!
But with MY progression it is very safe because we are adding 1 chip after 2 losses.....
I know that some times you will have:1 spin WIN the other LOST and you will be in the same place,but it worth because after this veryyyyy usually it is comming a RUN and we winning very GOOD!!!!!
Imagine CHANGE ,CHANGE ,CHANGE....So it is time that it will come a RUN....and when the run it is comming we are reducing by 1 chip ,so we can hundle more bad sequences...because the progression legs are growing veryyyyy slow!

So we are covered and always betting at the right place with the Correct progression because:

1)when a lot of Blacks will hit ,then it is more luckily that the REDS will follow to bring the balance
2)A lot of Doubles are hitting quite frequently

I don t thing that it needs to add or remove something to make it any better!
The theory is perfect and the 1000 spins test the same.
If you can then it is more than welcomed

Remember that a LOTS of DOUBLES in the ECs are happening!

If you like test it and give feedback.

My recomended winning target is  +20 chips
and the recomended stop loss is   -60 chips

so we need wo win 4 sessions and lose 1

[Red Nickels]

"After 2 consecutive WINS we MINUS -1  chip"

.......... so how many chips do you have to start with/bet with?  say I choose to bet black and black wins twice in a row first two spins, then what?  I can't bet one nickel ($5) on black, I have to start by betting two nickels/$10?  what if black wins four times in a row?  how do I keep reducing the bet?  I have a lot of spins I could test, but I'm not sure how to proceed.  here are 75 continuous spins from a real session (I have more), if you care to check or show by example what would happen if we picked and bet on just black, and what would happen if we picked and bet on just red, you could enter the +/- unit results, in the red/black columns.

[Jordan]

I am sorry!!!
I forgot to mention something very vital of the system(progression)!!!!!

when we will be in the stage that we will have WON the 1st bet and we will be betting for example 4 chips (so we need to win 1 more time) ,if we are only -1 chip for being in a NEW profit ,we will not bet with 4 chips again!!!!!!!
BUT we will bet just the amound of the chips that we need to make us +1 chip then the previous Highest PROFIT....so in this case after the 4 chips that we won will will bet again BUT now only 2 chips!!! (because we were -1 chip for being in a new profit)
And from there if we will lose 2 times in a row we are adding to the bet +1 more chip etc etc

So this makes the system more solid and safe and less BR .....

ouffff

this is it!

[Jordan]

RED Nickels


LoL! it is obvious and self explained that as many times as you will win ....the lower chips that you will have in the betting place will be always 1 chip....
U can t bet 0 chips ...can u???  

So if you will win and you had 1 chip.....u contunue betting there with again 1 chip...u will change the quantily of the chips in that case only if you will lose 2 times in a row and you will have to bet then 2 chips.

I think that u are new....so welcome!

[GLC]

Jordan,

How often it is that we think and think and think and come up with a novel idea only to discover that someone else, or maybe many someone elses have already thought of it.

Atlantis, for one, has used this betting method on his EC systems.  There's even a system in the notorious "302 roulette systems"  titled "2up, 2 down".  It calls it a betting strategy for those with small to medium bankrolls.

It does help you stay at the table longer, but in the long run a really bad losing stretch gets you in a hole that takes forever to get out of, if you ever do.

Alas, as with all betting strategies, this one has it's achilles heel also.

With All Due Respect,

GLC

[Hermes]

More Carsh then Atlantis developed this progression. 2 losses, two wins. Everybody is allowed to reinvent, it is not a sin. We tweak each other ideas to adjust it to our temperament.
Hermes

[GLC]

More Carsh then Atlantis developed this progression. 2 losses, two wins. Everybody is allowed to reinvent, it is not a sin. We tweak each other ideas to adjust it to our temperament.
Hermes

Hermes,

Thanks for this post.  I hadn't realized that Carsh suggested that we not increase until 2 losses.  I was so focused on his progression being just an adaptation of Fibonacci that I had misread his rules.  I don't know if it'll make much of a difference, but I'll look at his progression again.  You just never know where you'll find one of these crazy light switches.

Thanks,

George

[kawa4711]

Hi, Jordan, thank you for sharing your idea on this progression.
I ve tried it today in an 0-wheel Onlinecasino and it worked pretty good.
Its a good idea to hit streaks and the BR is n t going to high, if the trend isn t streaking immediately.

Perhaps one shouldwait for a long streak of a R or B or H or L or M or P and after the end of the par ex RRRRRRRRRR streak when B appears playing B with your progression idea.

Best regards

kawa4711

[Hermes]

Or just count 10 - 12 or even 20 spins which EC performs best and play next 10 spins that one with the D Alembert progression - it is called bet on favorites. You lose a few sessions but win more. Ask Atlantis he knows.
Hermes

[Jordan]

I didn t know that this progression has mentioned before.
Still it is standing very nice

[Hermes]

Jordan, that's positive! Dig deeper, probably you come out in Japan?
Hermes

[Jordan]

I can t understand why u are fighting with me....

aren t u the man that thinks that every system is winning more than it is losing! hahahahaha

[Carsch]

Hermes,

Thanks for this post.  I hadn't realized that Carsh suggested that we not increase until 2 losses.  I was so focused on his progression being just an adaptation of Fibonacci that I had misread his rules.  

This is my progression:

Light version: 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32
Aggressive version: 1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,32

After a loss, you need 2 wins back to back to end the progression (except for the 2 unit-bet)

After a loss, then a win, you need 2 losses back to back to follow on the next step in the progression

Examples:

bet 1.....L
bet 1.....L
bet 2.....L
bet 3.....W
bet 3.....L
bet 3.....W
bet 3.....L
bet 3.....W
bet 3.....W...............end of progression. Go back betting 1 unit

bet 1.....L
bet 1.....L
bet 2.....L
bet 3.....L
bet 4.....W
bet 4.....L
bet 4.....L
bet 6.....L
bet 9.....W
bet 9.....W..................end of progression

With the light version, once a win on the 4 step (3 unit-bet), instead of betting another 3 u., it's best to bet just 2u. If you lose that 2u. bet, your next bet should be 3u. In case you win that 3 you bet again, this time, the next bet should be 3u. It's just safer this way.

I must say, this progression is best suited for Bac, and Craps...........might do well sometimes with BJ if playing shoes.