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Hollandish Lines

Started by GLC, Mar 17, 03:57 PM 2013

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GLC

It seems I can't go very long without posting a bet method and it's been too long.

This is a progression idea for playing 5 of the 6 lines each spin.  That gives us 30 chances to win vs 7 chances to lose.  Or we should lose 1 time for every 5 wins not counting the zero(s).

A common way to bet this is 3 units on either Lo or Hi even chance and 2 units on the opposite dozen.  This means that either the 13-18 or the 19-24 lines will be left open.
Another bet selection method is to leave the last line to hit open.  This plays against repeating lines.
Another option is to leave the sleeping line open.  This plays for a line to sleep for long periods of time giving us long streaks of wins.  We hope.
A very boring way to play is to wait until a line hits 2 times in a row and then leave it open.  Whether that increases our chances of walking away with a win is probably "NO", because it also limits our chances to bet.
Other options are available with some creative thought on your part.

This bet method is based on the Hollandish system.  That is where we start with 1 loss and after a loss we move to a larger bet in hopes of recovering the loss quickly.  If we lose at the higher level, we write the number of units lost at the higher level on the right end of the line and continue to do this for every loss until we recover all lost units at the lower level at which time we increase our bet size to recover any lost units from the last level.  We will only have 2 levels open at any time because we can't go to another level until we have eliminated the previous level.

Start by betting a unit on 5 lines each.  On a loss our recovery bet will be increased to an amount that will allow us to recover the previous loss in 3 wins.  So our 1st loss would be 5 units that means we would bet 2 units on our 5 lines giving us a 10 unit overall bet and every win would recover 2 of the lost units. 
Any time we lose before recovering our original 5 lost units we would write a 10 at the right end of our recovery line.  Write 10 because that's the number of units we just lost.
Once we recover our 5 lost units, we divide 10 by 3 and bet that many units on each line to recover lost units from the 10 unit losses.  10 divided by 3 = 3.3 so we round up and bet 4 units per line, or 20 units for the 5 lines.
You can search the forum for "hollandish" as find a more detailed description of this bet method if the above isn't clear enough.
If you play the way I described above, here's the bet progression:
1 unit bet on 5 lines = 5 units
2 units bet on 5 lines = 10 units
4 units bet on 5 lines = 20 units
7 units bet on 5 lines = 35 units
12 ............5.........60
20.............5.........100
35.............5.........175
60.............5.........300

Test this to see if it's a bet method you feel comfortable with.
I will tell you up front that you must set a stop-loss on this and all systems to prevent a total meltdown.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

George

I got a minute to pester you.

Let's say you hit your stop loss, whatever that may be.  When you return, do you start from zero and try to recover your lost money by betting exactly as you did when you lost it OR do you resume your session at the same level of betting?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GLC

Well Sam, I have only been thinking of starting back at square one.  Otherwise, I don't see it as a stop loss.

We could start back at 2 or 4 chips on a line instead of 1 chip on a line.  Since most of our wins happen at the 1 chip level that would recover our losses 2 to 4 times faster.  It also puts us a little closer to our stop loss from the beginning.

All I'm hoping for is to net about 1 chip for every 10 - 15 bets.

I always say that we shouldn't consider more than 5- 10% of our daily wins as profit because we will either hit a large stop loss rarely, but when we do it'll rape us.  Or we'll hit a smaller stop loss more often, but each hit won't feel so bad.

Pick your own pill my friend.  They're both on the same level a dose of  "cod liver oil".
Opps.  I'm showing my age.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Sam,

Given your statement regarding "Farthest" hitting more often than "Lasts", the bet selection for this method should be to bet against the line that has slept the longest.

If you use the selection method of waiting for 2 losses before betting, you could bet 2 or 3 on each line since you get less bets and losing 3 times in a row with this method happens rarely.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

George

"Farthest" means the nine splits that are older than the "Last".  So in your case, wouldn't I bet on the oldest sleeping split?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GLC

You're right Sam.  My mistake.

We should bet against the most recent hit line.

Thanks for catching that!! :thumbsup:

By the way, if you're converting to splits, it's the oldest 15 splits.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

doubledime

First of all thanks GLC for all the input on this forum.

The way I see it, is that there is a 81% chance of hitting your number.  What I would like to know is if any one has had some real world experience using this method and what were the greatest number of loses in a row that they experienced?

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