Is there any known 15 step progression for even money bets ...

[ego]

Is there any known 15 step progression for even money bets ...
I think Frank Barstow made one ...
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If you have a suggestion for a 15 step progression for even money bets, feel free to post it ...
I self can only think of modified fibo where you lose half the progression at the last steps.
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Like this one ...
1. 1
2. 1
3. 1
4. 1
5. 2
6. 3
7. 5
8. 8
9. 13
10. 21
11. 34
12. 55
13. 89
14. 117 Half
15. 175 Half
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The issue is the low table limit you have to deal with ...
Minimum for outside bets is 10 Euro and table limit is 900 Euro...
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That at best would be 14 steps based upon fibo, any suggestions ...

[Kattila]

What about other modified fibo:
1,1,2,2,3,3,5,5,8,8,13,13,21,21,34,55 ( 15 steps)
or
1,1,2,2,3,3,5,5,8,8,13,13,21,21,34,34,55,55( 18 steps),90,90( 20 steps)
After lose up one step, after win( but bankroll not in plus) stay on the
same level until bankroll in plus, and after win and bankroll in plus
reset to first level(1).
Optional/reset  to 1 unit  :  ............ after win( but bankroll not in plus) stay on the
same level until  close to last high , or just break even...0... , or in plus something like +3 ,
reset to  1. ( or until hit  your stop lose)


cheers

[ignatus]

+1 progression, wait for 2 hits in a row before reset

[Chrisbis]

What are you betting on Ego?
Don't need to know the actual bet/system ......just the chip placement .
If Steve could re-build the 'csv' table forum code I will build you a special progression list with reset sectors within it.
We briefly chatted about 'Zero' gain reset points 17 months ago.
Remember !?
Cheers Chris.

[rouletteKEY]

not to be the wet blanket here 

BUT...

15 steps on an even money bet sounds more like a bet selection issue than anything else.

I'm totally pissed if I go past 7 spins playing 3 or 4 numbers...15 against 18 numbers?

I know no method/system was layed out so maybe there is a method to the madness here and by not being privy on the big picture I'm missing a very integral cog of the machine but at first glance the smartass in me says...wait for 14 red before you start betting and amp up a marty

15 steps on even chance means you either start so low that most hits (which will occur early on) will be finanically meaningless or you run into table max situations.

I guess without knowing the method to have any background on expected WL patterns I would be looking at some form of Fibo and depending on the track record throughout testing possibly modify the fibo with an additional +1 or -2 type thing after a win or loss depending on what my expectency is and stop-losses along the way mid-stream after say 3 losses in a row and begin again after a virtual win.  Without more information it's really impossible to throw out something meaningful.

I must not be getting my head around the question because if say your testing showed a bunch of chops generally...you would never need 15 steps...if it was streaky to the point of 7 or 8 wins or losses in a row I could see asking for 15 but then the logical conclusion would be to have stop losses along the way...

The only way I could conceivably see a play like this for myself would be on multiple wheel sectors and if that was my play I would likely go with a FIBO and depending on my testing I would likely go up the ladder as prescribed and if testing showed after most losing streaks I got say 3 of 5 or 4 of the next 6 as wins I would either just continue up even after that win that breaks the losing streak or stay at the highest level until in the positive with some form of mid-run stop loss so one bad run doesn't wipeout the daily or session bank.

[soggett]

well it depends a lot on your W/L registry
I agree with roulettekey

I can suggest you go +1/-1 in cycles of 10 spins
so every 10 spins if you are in minus go +1, if you are in plus go -1, reset when even or in plus (even if in middle of the 10 spins, just start new 10)
hope it helps you a bit

[ego]

 
Well the idea is simple, i have two selections ...
One where each clustering of two bets has the probability of 66% to win and the other one reducing the total amount of bets for a specific selection ...
Both have a high strike ratio, but noting is due to happen ... i know that after so many years with roulette ...

I was thinking when i reach a new bank i will use regression ...
That means for an example that if you get one dozen to repeat 13 times in a row during one million trails, then it has to do that twice after each other if i am going to fail.
And yes i can play even money bets based upon the same matth and probability as dozen play with i slight modification towards the bets behavior, you can clustering the 1 in 2 to any thing you like, but my way is the best way ...

[rouletteKEY]

My kids must have my mind totally fried at this point in the day...because I am more lost as to what you are looking to achieve or asking than before.

Or was I lost before... and now I have perfect clarity but don't realize I have perfect clarity?

hmmmmmm