Easiest Strategy Ever

[Vengetind]

Hey guys.

I have a theory for a system so easy you can hardly call it a system. I'm wondering if this money management strategy can make a profit in the long run, and I would like your feedback on this

Well here it goes: I prefer EC, but i guess it works well with double or single dozens too. The goal of this money management is simply to be in profit by one unit and then put that 1 dollar or 10 or whatever right in your pocket, before you do it over again. On a single zero table, close to half of the time, it only takes one spin to reach one unit. And this money is yours. If you lose the first bet, what you do is continue to betting the same bet, always one unit - hoping that eventually you will be up by one unit.

Now if you play this without putting the winnings in your pocket everytime you are up one unit, you will lose cause of the 2,7% house edge. But the odds of you being in profit at some point in time are in my opinion very high.

Any thoughts?

[Nathanael]

I guess I'll jump on this first.

The house doesn't know that you put winning chips in your pocket and putting them in your pocket doesn't change the fact that the house still has a 2.7% advantage on the next spin.  Let's say your betting Red only.  Every spin you win if a Red shows.  You lose if a Black shows.  You lose if a green shows.  If a Red shows, you get paid 100% of what you bet.  The house doesn't keep 2.7% and pay you only 97.3%.  The house makes their money by winning on 1 green every 37 spins along with 18 Blacks.  They only have an advantage of 2.7% if you play enough spins for the losses on green and black to pull ahead of the wins on Red.  This takes time.  That's why the longer you play, the greater the chance for the house to collect their 2.7%.

I'm afraid only luck can make a winner out of this system.

On the other hand, you shouldn't lose too much.

Nate

[Nathanael]

Here's a system from the public domain that's similar.

...To commence play, we first wait for either 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours - so we wait for RED/RED/RED or BLACK/BLACK/BLACK or RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK or BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED. As soon as one of these sequences occurs which could happen as soon as you sit down or could mean a 20 minute wait, our first betting series commences on the next spin.

We bet on whatever the sequence is doing, so if 3 REDS have come up, we bet on RED - if a sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED has happened, then our first bet is on BLACK because the colours are alternating. The aim is win 1 chip (or if we don't win 1 chip, then to break-even) on each betting series.

So our first bet is 1 chip. If this bet wins, we have made our target of 1 chip profit and that betting series is complete.

A new series of betting starts on the very next spin, 1 chip again and following whatever the current results are doing - so if the colours are alternating and our last win came on BLACK, then the first bet of this new series is a 1 chip bet on RED. Should this bet lose, the betting series is not yet over because we haven't made at least 1 chip profit or brokeneven, but we do stop betting and wait until the next run of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates occurs. When this happens, we commence betting again on the next spin following whatever the colours are doing and we increase our bet to 2 chips. If this bet wins we make a 2 chip profit less the 1 chip loss from the previous bet to give an overall 1 chip profit, thereby completing another betting series.

Had this 2 chip bet lost, the current betting series running total goes to -3 chips. Because we have just had a losing bet due to the colour sequence changing, again we stop betting and wait for another 3 repeats or alternates before placing a 3 chip bet on the next spin. Should this bet win we have recovered the running total of -3 and broken-even on the series, so the betting series stops. We accept that we haven't made a profit on that particular series and start a new one on the very next spin starting again with a 1 chip bet.

Should the 3 chip bet lose taking the running total to -6, again stop betting, wait for another 3 repeats or alternates and place a 4 chip bet on the next spin (keep in mind that we NEVER increase the bet by more than 1 chip at a time - don't be tempted to Double-Up and try to recover losses and make a profit in one spin. Yes, many times it will come off, but it only takes one time for it not to and you will be in deep trouble). Once we have gone past the 3 chip bet without making a profit, we accept that we are not going to make a profit on this series and the aim becomes just to get the series to break-even and then to start a new one. If the 4 chip bet wins, the running total for the current betting series goes to -2. After a win, if the bet was 2 chips or more, then usually we reduce the bet by 1 chip for the next spin. However, as the 4 chip bet has won and the current deficit is -2, because we looking to break-even now, the bet for the next spin is 2 chips which provided it wins gives a break-even sequence.

If this 2 chip bet had lost, going to -4, a waiting period would occur until 3 repeats or alternates again and then the next bet would be 3 chips (remember we always increase the bet by 1 chip after a loser - NEVER MORE). A 3 chip win would take the series back to -1 so a 1 chip winning bet on the next spin would give the break-even target we are looking for. This explanation of how to work the system may look complicated but it is very simple in practice...

[Turner]

Hey guys.

I have a theory for a system so easy you can hardly call it a system. I'm wondering if this money management strategy can make a profit in the long run, and I would like your feedback on this

Well here it goes: I prefer EC, but i guess it works well with double or single dozens too. The goal of this money management is simply to be in profit by one unit and then put that 1 dollar or 10 or whatever right in your pocket, before you do it over again. On a single zero table, close to half of the time, it only takes one spin to reach one unit. And this money is yours. If you lose the first bet, what you do is continue to betting the same bet, always one unit - hoping that eventually you will be up by one unit.

Now if you play this without putting the winnings in your pocket everytime you are up one unit, you will lose cause of the 2,7% house edge. But the odds of you being in profit at some point in time are in my opinion very high.

Any thoughts?

In my experience, R/B and single/series are the same thing. Eventually, the singles and series will even out.
When playing 18 numbers vs 18 numbers, or singles vs series, the variance rules the roost over short sessions

Ok, RRRRRR is relatively rare, 1/64th of all spins in a sample, or every 74 spins.

Rare or not, you see things like RRRRRR BBBBBB R B RRRRRR  often

3x 6 series in 20 spins, not 222

I believe saying "wait for RRR and bet red" has no more chance than after RRR bet B
or, after RBRB, bet R has no more chance than after RBRB bet B

Why?

Because you don't know if the next spin is part of a return to the mean from -SD or +SD unless you start playing to look for SD3 and a regression to the mean (RTM). And then, you can't be sure it wont go on to higher SD or hover around the 3SD.

Key phrase is "can't be sure"

[ego]

V that is a very nice twist to a old classical system, this is one of the first systems i test for even money bets.
It is based upon the principal of 1/3.

I will see if i can find the original, then i will add it to this topic,
Because you ride four horses you get very low variance.

[ego]

Here's a system from the public domain that's similar.

...To commence play, we first wait for either 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours - so we wait for RED/RED/RED or BLACK/BLACK/BLACK or RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK or BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED. As soon as one of these sequences occurs which could happen as soon as you sit down or could mean a 20 minute wait, our first betting series commences on the next spin.

We bet on whatever the sequence is doing, so if 3 REDS have come up, we bet on RED - if a sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED has happened, then our first bet is on BLACK because the colours are alternating. The aim is win 1 chip (or if we don't win 1 chip, then to break-even) on each betting series.

So our first bet is 1 chip. If this bet wins, we have made our target of 1 chip profit and that betting series is complete.

A new series of betting starts on the very next spin, 1 chip again and following whatever the current results are doing - so if the colours are alternating and our last win came on BLACK, then the first bet of this new series is a 1 chip bet on RED. Should this bet lose, the betting series is not yet over because we haven't made at least 1 chip profit or brokeneven, but we do stop betting and wait until the next run of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates occurs. When this happens, we commence betting again on the next spin following whatever the colours are doing and we increase our bet to 2 chips. If this bet wins we make a 2 chip profit less the 1 chip loss from the previous bet to give an overall 1 chip profit, thereby completing another betting series.

Had this 2 chip bet lost, the current betting series running total goes to -3 chips. Because we have just had a losing bet due to the colour sequence changing, again we stop betting and wait for another 3 repeats or alternates before placing a 3 chip bet on the next spin. Should this bet win we have recovered the running total of -3 and broken-even on the series, so the betting series stops. We accept that we haven't made a profit on that particular series and start a new one on the very next spin starting again with a 1 chip bet.

Should the 3 chip bet lose taking the running total to -6, again stop betting, wait for another 3 repeats or alternates and place a 4 chip bet on the next spin (keep in mind that we NEVER increase the bet by more than 1 chip at a time - don't be tempted to Double-Up and try to recover losses and make a profit in one spin. Yes, many times it will come off, but it only takes one time for it not to and you will be in deep trouble). Once we have gone past the 3 chip bet without making a profit, we accept that we are not going to make a profit on this series and the aim becomes just to get the series to break-even and then to start a new one. If the 4 chip bet wins, the running total for the current betting series goes to -2. After a win, if the bet was 2 chips or more, then usually we reduce the bet by 1 chip for the next spin. However, as the 4 chip bet has won and the current deficit is -2, because we looking to break-even now, the bet for the next spin is 2 chips which provided it wins gives a break-even sequence.

If this 2 chip bet had lost, going to -4, a waiting period would occur until 3 repeats or alternates again and then the next bet would be 3 chips (remember we always increase the bet by 1 chip after a loser - NEVER MORE). A 3 chip win would take the series back to -1 so a 1 chip winning bet on the next spin would give the break-even target we are looking for. This explanation of how to work the system may look complicated but it is very simple in practice...

I like the twist to break even or accept loses with you method mention above.
I post the original of the classical method.

Many Thanks

Here is a old one, a reel classical for the even chances.

The principal of tracking is 1/3. You write down the result in lines of 3.

The bet selection is to catch series of 4. There is 2 patterns that we are going to use.

The first pattern: RBR BRB - this pattern alternate for 3 times and we will play that they will continue to do so for 4 times.   



So this is how it would look - if we playing to catch series of 4 from the patterns that have alternating for 3 times:





The second pattern RRR BBB a serie of 3 and we will play that they continue to become 4 in a row.



So this is how it would look - if we playing to catch series of 4 from the patterns that is a serie of 3:



Now lets take a look at it whit a reel permanence, a short sample... First we are going to see how it perform using the first pattern only - RBR and BRB...

BRR                         
RRR                                                   
BRR                                             
BRB                                           
RBR W                   
BBB               
BBR                                               
BBB           
BRB             
BRR L                         
RBB                     
BBB                   
RBR                                           
BRB W             
RBR W                         
BBR W                     
BRR                                           
RRR                               
BBR                   
BRB                   
BBB L                       
BRB                                                   
BRR L       
RBR                                     
RBB L       
BBR                                 
RRR               
RBR                           
RRR L                     
RRR               
RBB         
RRB 
BBB             
BBR               
BRR       
RBR             
BBB W       
BRR       
RBB             
BBR             
BRR       
BRR       
RBR 
RRR L                   
RBB                                 
RBB             
BBB                 
BBB                     
BRB               
RRR W           
RRB                   
RRR             
RBR       
BRB W                         
RRB 
BBR       
RRR       
BBB                     
RBR                     
BBR W                                 
RBB 
BBB 
BRR                     
BRB       
RBR W

Lets take a short example of the second pattern RRR and BBB...     

BRR                         
RRR                                                   
BRR L                                             
BRB                                           
RBR                   
BBB               
BBR W                                             
BBB           
BRB W             
BRR                         
RBB                     
BBB                   
RBR L                                           
BRB             
RBR                         
BBR                       
BRR                                           
RRR                               
BBR L                 
BRB                   
BBB                         
BRB W                                                 
BRR       
RBR                                     
RBB       
BBR                                 
RRR               
RBR W                         
RRR                     
RRR W               
RBB W       
RRB 
BBB             
BBR W               
BRR       
RBR             
BBB       
BRR W     
RBB             
BBR             
BRR       
BRR       
RBR 
RRR                   
RBB W                               
RBB             
BBB                 
BBB W                   
BRB               
RRR             
RRB W                   
RRR             
RBR W       
BRB                           
RRB 
BBR       
RRR       
BBB L                     
RBR                     
BBR                                   
RBB 

Now we are going to use bout and see what happens...

BRR                         
RRR                                                   
BRR L                                             
BRB                                           
RBR w                 
BBB               
BBR W                                             
BBB           
BRB W             
BRR L                         
RBB                     
BBB                   
RBR L                                           
BRB W             
RBR                         
BBR W                     
BRR                                           
RRR                               
BBR L                 
BRB                   
BBB L                       
BRB W                                                 
BRR       
RBR                                     
RBB L       
BBR                                 
RRR               
RBR W                         
RRR L                   
RRR W               
RBB W       
RRB 
BBB             
BBR W               
BRR       
RBR             
BBB W       
BRR W     
RBB             
BBR             
BRR       
BRR       
RBR 
RRR L                   
RBB W                               
RBB             
BBB                 
BBB W                   
BRB               
RRR W           
RRB W                   
RRR             
RBR W       
BRB W                         
RRB 
BBR       
RRR       
BBB L                     
RBR                     
BBR W                                 
RBB 
BBB 
BRR W                     
BRB       
RBR W                   
RBR       
RBR L                   
BBB               
RBB L                   
RRR             
BRR L                   
RBR       
BRB W
RRB   
BBR               
RRB             
RBR       
BRB W             
RBB 
RRR       
BBR L       
BRB       
BBR L                 
RRR               
RBR W       
BBB             
RBB L
RRB             
RBB       
RRR             
RBR W       
BBB       
RBB L       
RBR       
RBR L             
BBR       
RBB
BBB         
BBR W       
RRR
RBB W
BBR 
RRB 

This approach above described how to catch small trends,
series of 4,
I run a short test because I was curios how it would perform if we don't use the principal of 1/3.

I use a humble progression 1 1 3 4 7 ...

Here is the result using a 5 step progression:



Here is the result for 2048 RNGs

[ego]

I think that if you aim to win +1 or break even or accept a loss you could add MM to this.
It make it easy to win quick and small amount most of times or break even or hit loss limit.

I like this method so much so i might teach my mother and bring her to the casino with me to have some fun LOL

[beretta28]

Very interesting,old but nice method.
Similar, but a bit more complicated to play,is to bet that in 24 spins we won't see the eight patterns of three for even chances.
Complicated when BBR...BBB hit and then you have BB..what next bet?Too complicated to explain,I'll try do do it later.

Simpler is to bet that in 8 spins,we won't see the 4 patterns of 2.
RR,RB,BR,BB.
In other words we bet for a repeat of a pattern that already hit.
RR R..I play RED
RR B..no play
RR..RB..I play RED,if I lose,because B hits,I wait for the next spin....RR...RB...BB..I bet again Red,and if it's B that hits,I play B again(I hope BB repeats)
Ego progression is OK