Double dozens stats, any views on a possible system?

[downthehatch]

Hi

look at these stats, for 1,600 spins culled from Smart live casino (last 185) on their live dealer and auto wheels, and also real time charting of William Hill live dealers and auto wheel

   the method was to play on the same two dozens after 3 spins produced 2 differing dozens,
i.e. 23  33  36

you would then play on dozens 2 and 3, if you lost you then waited for another 3 spin sequence producing 2 differing dozens, using a progression.

Now the thing is after a 1,000 spins i realized i had used a standard progression for a ONE dozen  :sad2:system  1   1   2   3   4   6   9 etc of course this is rubbish for a 2 dozen prog.!!!

the thing is after i woke up and re-analysed using a 2 dozen prog 1-1 3-3 9-9 etc

in those 1,600 spins there was no losses, in that the progression had never got past 81-81

the whole thing produced some 340 wins, most of the wins came within the first 3 steps of the prog,
the fifth step was used only once in the entire test and 4Th step some 15 times

I just wondered if there was any kind of more gentler progression out there that could make this method actually viable?  i dont think flat betting does it, far too tiresome anyway

Cheers Dth

[Nickmsi]

 Hello DTH . . .


Finding the right progressions for Double Dozen systems is always a chore.  Personally, I do not recommend progressions but you may feel your system is a worthy one for progressions.


Enclosed is a tool for testing your system.  I have coded your system into Excel and in Column BB you can enter whatever progression amount you wish to test.  If you put in all 1's then you will be Flat Betting.


Then simply press function key F9 to get a 500 spin result of that progression.


Also the program will show you the maximum Progression Level reached for each 500 spins so you can see how often you will incur the RFH (Run From Hell).


If you wish to test this manually or with live spins, simply delete Column B.


Enjoy . . . Nick

[Ralph]

I have made some good play using BV MultiWheel. Instead of betting two doz, you bet one, but have two balls. If one hit 1 is plus, and you lose only then both balls miss.

I think its more easy than playing two doz and one ball.

[downthehatch]

I have made some good play using BV MultiWheel. Instead of betting two doz, you bet one, but have two balls. If one hit 1 is plus, and you lose only then both balls miss.

I think its more easy than playing two doz and one ball.

Hi thanks for reply

many of the spins recorded in the test were done whilst monitoring 5 differing live tables (William Hill) in real time,

As with many systems using it in reality is another thing, you could actually monitor the tables and change very quickly, in contrast to sticking to one table only which could be very tedious, basically i was quite surprised that the method produced no losses over the testing,

also in reality one would have to play £1 unit (except on auto air wheel which is 0.25p min)

so the  1-1  3-3 9-9 27-27 81-81 243-243   prog needs a large bbank

don't you just hate the power of numbers!!!

[F_LAT_INO]

1-1  3-3 9-9 27-27 81-81 243-243   





--above you wouldn't dare to play it for real money.
  regardless of method....nobody can ever win with
  that.....only sometimes on paper,but that's not playing.

[Ralph]

I never explode the progression to 1,3,9,27,81, you will have difficulties to catch up.
Playing two and win one.

If you have a bet selection which give you about  2/3 hits, recover in future spins.
Sometimes I rise just one or two, if the two DOZ not are coming in a few spins, bet virtual or change.

The table with two balls, and you bet at one DOZ, have very rare both in the other DOZ, for long time, but everthing can happen.

2/3 betting is tricky, not sure you will win more than 1/3 bet. You win 2x the times half, the zero takes double.

Some weeks ago somebody posted a system which should end the European roulette, the proof were, you win 2/3 of the times, and with progression you jump over all (the few)the losses. Everbody should know its far from right, and if it should anyhow work, it should work for all bets.

The last session on the two ball wheel I add one after a loss, never reduce until plus. Playing on a oneball wheel, you always win just one, and bet two you can lose, on a two ball wheel you can lose the chip, get  one plus OR two plus, if both balls fall in the same DOZ.

On a casino you can get the two ball wheel, using two tables.

[F_LAT_INO]

On a casino you can get the two ball wheel, using two tables.



--that's how I play for years now on several tables.

[Maan]

In order to play Column and Dozen one need a BETSELECTION. Thats the only Way to get the Edge.
Forget Systems, forget beating the ODDS. There are several great Selections to apply. Just find them. And also..if you think Roulette is tiresome. Change to something else

/M

[Robeenhuut]

In order to play Column and Dozen one need a BETSELECTION. that's the only Way to get the Edge.
Forget Systems, forget beating the ODDS. There are several great Selections to apply. Just find them. And also..if you think Roulette is tiresome. Change to something else

/M

No bet selection for double dozens.  For single dozen just FTL... you will lose at slower rate. 

[Ralph]

In order to play Column and Dozen one need a BETSELECTION. that's the only Way to get the Edge.
Forget Systems, forget beating the ODDS. There are several great Selections to apply. Just find them. And also..if you think Roulette is tiresome. Change to something else

/M

Yes we all know, we win if we selected the outcome!!!

[Robeenhuut]

Yes we all know, we win if we selected the outcome!!!

You must be clairvoyant Ralph.  I wish i had your gift 

[downthehatch]

1-1  3-3 9-9 27-27 81-81 243-243   





--above you wouldn't dare to play it for real money.
  regardless of method....nobody can ever win with
  that.....only sometimes on paper,but that's not playing.

you are right, imnot as smart as the guys here i just wondered if there was some other progression that could conceivably take advantage of such results?

Cheers Dth

[Robeenhuut]

you are right, imnot as smart as the guys here i just wondered if there was some other progression that could conceivably take advantage of such results?

Cheers Dth

Hehe DTH  believe me you are as smart as most of the guys here.  As to possible prog if you really want to bet on double dozens just pm George. He is a residing guru on a prog subject.  But handling 6+ losses in a row that will happen sooner or later its not an easy task.

[downthehatch]

Hehe DTH  believe me you are as smart as most of the guys here.  As to possible prog if you really want to bet on double dozens just pm George. He is a residing guru on a prog subject.

But handling 6+ losses in a row that will happen sooner or later its not an easy task.

yes thats the problem, I probably 'knew' the answer before i posted the question, in a sense just wanting confirmation of a negative. After all if one could win so easily Roulette in the form it is now could not exist hahahah

one aspect of the results from the test was the long winning runs, as many as 12 on the trot
as of themselves long losing runs did not occur in one sense as say if you were betting on doz 1&2
and dozen 3 came out say 15 times on the trot you would only lose once, on the first bet.

Still never mind the search goes on
Cheers Dth

[RouletteGhost]

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