TwoCat tests denzie's system.......

[TwoCatSam]

Yes, the concept was three in a row. 

As soon as the bots finish, I will set it for 3 and we'll see.  I tried it for a brief time and found that it might go 100 spins before hitting three in a row.

It does not increase from three to four unless I stop and bot and start it over at four.

But, without a progression, it is a moot point as it will always lose.  I don't see why that math fact is so elusive.

I have lots of time........I hope!!

Sam

[denzie]

SamNL your correct. Only 1bet after the trigger. And wait for the next trigger. Flatbet. Betting after 2times in a row is suicide. Cuz 3 and 4 times in row comes to much. 3times busted but stiil faaaar ahead of failure. 4times it's crazy but didn't lost yet. But the profit is smaller.

[denzie]

The thing im most curious about...who's gonna win the most ? Nr 1 or nr 2? And what's the safest?  Nr 3? In the long run. ......i guess i best play them all 3 together with separate br...then i know

[TwoCatSam]

SamNL your correct. Only 1bet after the trigger. And wait for the next trigger. Flatbet. Betting after 2times in a row is suicide. Cuz 3 and 4 times in row comes to much. 3times busted but stiil faaaar ahead of failure. 4times it's crazy but didn't lost yet. But the profit is smaller.

denzie

I'm just about to my ropes end.

OK, you wait for three of the same dozen and bet once.  If you lose, you wait for three of the same dozen and bet the same amount? 


Is that it?

Sam

[denzie]

That is correct Sam. Bet only 1 time after the trigger. Flatbet. And then wait for the trigger to come again and repeat. ...

[TwoCatSam]

denzie

I am going to forget about trying to explain the math of the thing to you.  If I'm wrong, would someone explain it to me.

Moving on...........

You have a pretty good idea.  There "seems" to be a problem with the sheet and I finally found it.  I am going to send Nick a copy of a video I made to see what he thinks.  This should have made 93 instead of 31.

I am done with this thread.

Sam

[denzie]

Ok. Those who wanna use the systems can.  Nr 1 , 2 and 3 at your service.  Enjoy

[Tomla021]

I have used that system lets call it "denzies Double Dozens"  for years as a walk around strategy  going from one table to another and it seems to always win --the progression is always the difficulty---flat or 1, 3, 9 or up two every loss , or a labby etc

[denzie]

I prefer flat. Cuz it makes good money. It mostly comes in waves. That why u need stop loss and minimum and maximum win point. Then it works really good. On the bot with continious play it doesnt work that good. But still get profit. And there you should stop. Is all about waves as it is in many systems. If your on top of the mountain theres only one way.....down 

But my nr 3 (look above in this post) seems to do a exellent job. Try it and tell me what u think . I will ask Nick to test it on the bot also.
I suggest to forget about nr 4

[RouletteGhost]

Whats your stop loss denzie?

If you hit your stop loss when do you start playing again?

[denzie]

reply #35 ....my daily br is 1000units. if it busts...try again tomorrow. Of course you could wait till the bad wave is passed first but pffff maybe that wave not comes all day/week. minimum win point 300 units and maximum win point 500. You need to win your br back in maximum 3 days.

But look again at reply #35 pls

[atlantis]

SamNL your correct. Only 1bet after the trigger. And wait for the next trigger. Flatbet. Betting after 2times in a row is suicide. Cuz 3 and 4 times in row comes to much. 3times busted but stiil faaaar ahead of failure. 4times it's crazy but didn't lost yet. But the profit is smaller.

Hi denzie - you say that betting after 2 times in a row is suicide coz 3 in a row and 4 in a row comes too much... In that case why not bet ONCE for the repeat (progression) ; and if it hits then bet ONCE against the repeat (flatbet) ?

Played it like this:

When a doz repeats TWICE - I bet once only for a third repeat on SAME dozen.

I use a +1 mild progression on this if necessary eg:
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9...

When a doz repeats THREE TIMES - signal to bet other 2 dozen.
I just FLATBET one time only at 1u-1u on the other 2 doz.

I use some numbers from rfmaxx



[START]
1
6   bet 1u on D1
5   w+2 ; bet 1u on D2+D3                 +2*
6   L-2                                                 +0   
1
20
20  bet 1u on D2
18  w+2; bet 1u on D1+D3                 +2
12  w+1                                              +3*         
28
17
32
13
35
27  bet 1u on D3
22  L-1                                               +2
7
27
30  bet 2u on D3
31  w+4; bet 1u on D1+D2                 +6*
31  L-2                                               +4
11
21
34
28  bet 1u on D3
20  L-1                                               +3
19  bet 2u on D2                           
5    L-2                                               +1
31
2
7   bet 3u on D1         
6   w+4; bet 1u on D2+D3                  +5
15  w+1                                              +6*
27
4
31
28  bet 1u on D3
30  w+2; bet 1u on D1+D2                 +8*
35  L-2                                               +6
24
23  bet 1u on D2   
23  w+2; bet 1u on D1+D3                 +8*
18  L-2                                                +6
11
9   bet 1u on D1
32  L-1                                               +5
15
13  bet 2u on D2   
34  L-2                                               +3
19
5
4   bet 3u on D1                                 
26  L-3                                               +0
34  bet 4u on D3       
21  L-4                                               -4
1
20
18  bet 5u on D2
23  w+10; bet 1u on D1+D3               +6
29  w+1                                             +7
8
34
19
1
17
24 bet 1u on D2
26  L-1                                              +6
29  bet 2u on D3                                 
18  L-2                                              +4
6
6   bet 3u on D1       
0   L-3; bet 4u on D1                       +1
9   w+8; bet 1u on D2+D3                +9*
20  w+1                                            +10*
8
12   bet 1u on D1
5   w+2; bet 1u on D2+D3                +12*                     
13  w+1                                           +13*
14  bet 1u on D2
3   L-1                                              +12
35
22
[END]

A.
PS. Another demo using RX spinfile attached.

[denzie]

Interesting tweak Atlantis. I will give it try for sure. Big thx