Hidden Computers are OBSOLETE

[icashbot]

Just doing a little research and asking a few questions
My take on hidden  roulette computers
Is they are no longer viable with todays roulette wheels due to the new random rotors

link:://:.cammegh.com/product.php?product=mercury360rrs


if the rotors are now random how can the computer perdict along with other variables and give a percise or close perdiction's?

so hidden computers are a big NO NO.

[Steve]

Actually about 5% of normal looking wheels use the technology, so does the existence of rare technology pose a real threat? But lets assume every wheel had RRS. The fact is RRS:

1. Makes no difference to particular advantage play methods

2. Sometimes does not at all reduce computer accuracy, and sometimes it just reduces computer edge (depending on the computer, and the specific RRS design). I have never known it to completely eliminate the edge of my computers, even on the best RRS available.

Ive explained why before, and dont want to help wheel manufacturers again. You got your information from a Cammegh sales page. I get mine from testing and personal experience. It doesnt matter if the rotor strike point changes 180 degrees, because the change is not truly random. RRS does not fully address how roulette computers, or some advantage play methods work.

The reality is Cammegh knows this. But RRS is mostly a deterent for advantage players, much like a home alarm light is to burglars in front of a house.

Before I continue, consider the normal edge against players is -2.7%. And blackjack card counters get excited about a +1% edge because it can make millions.

I recently tested my Hybrid computer on the very best wheel Cammegh has: the Slingshot wheel, with RRS. And over almost 200 spins with predictions about 20 seconds before the ball fell, the player edge was about +6%. Thats 20 seconds before the ball fell, not the 7 seconds most players target.

Different RRS approaches have different effects. Some RRS kind of technologies DO reduce computer accuracy. The most effective RRS reduces the computer edge by about 40%. That may seem like a lot, but when the computer may start with a +80% edge, the resulting edge on a RRS wheel is 0.4 x 80% = 32%. Thats an edge 12 times greater that the casino has over average players.

Most automated wheels have RRS in some form. Also have a look at even a very old version of my computer beat and auto wheel at link:://:.roulette-computers.com/videos/ (video 4)

I understand you have your bot, and in your videos you apply it on RNG roulette. Nothing can beat RNG. If you think RRS is random, but you think RNG is predictable (the holy grail of NO NO) you need to understand everything better.

Again even if RRS was common, even if it was the best RRS that exists, it wouldnt be a big problem. But its still quite rare.

The are many keys to beating roulette, but when the approach and system is right, the real problem is avoiding detection.

[ddarko]

I recently tested my Hybrid computer on the very best wheel Cammegh has: the Slingshot wheel, with RRS. And over almost 200 spins with predictions about 20 seconds before the ball fell, the player edge was about +6%. Thats 20 seconds before the ball fell, not the 7 seconds most players target.

If somebody posted a system here, & claimed a 6% player edge after ONLY 200 spins of testing nobody here would be convinced.

Why should you be any different ?

[Steve]

1. this was on a wheel that's supposed to be unbeatable, and it was with predictions 20s before the ball falls. At 10s, edge is many times greater.

2. Two sets of 100 spins.  What are the chances of same peak location and shape of peaks? If you saw the data you'd know thousands of spins isn't needed.

[icashbot]

Hi steve do you have any footage of live wins?

[Steve]

What do you mean by "live"?

[icashbot]

Actual live footage anything anywhere not showing using the computer but showing placing bets down and winning if you dont mind.  Or even a session you played at home at least out of 100 continous play spins where you are using the computer to make perdictions?

Another question if using the computer how many numbers would you be placing bets on? Upto 9?

P.s are you up for a little challenge with Icashbot all in the interest of roulette?

[Steve]

1. Yes I have videos showing placing bets, sent to me by players. But they are not mine to publish, and don't show everything clearly anyway because there are too many bets from other players too. And the last thing I'd want to do is for casino staff to recognize their casino in a video.

2. There are plenty of videos I've published of 100 or so continuous spins.

3. In most cases, you only need to bet on 1 number. But it is better to cover more numbers so you earn more in less time. This is easiest with touch bet terminals, or computers like the Lite, Uber or Hybrid where you can have multiple bettors, each given different specific numbers to cover. They are the only computers that can do this. The only other multiple player computers just copy whatever audio from the main unit.

4. I dont really have time for another challenge. Ive done a few of them before and besides anyone looking for proof with their own eyes can easily see a demo. For details about demonstrations, see link:://:.roulettephysics.com/demonstrations/

Also see below from my website

See a Demonstration On Any Wheel You Want

If you’re skeptical, you only need to see it with your own eyes. You can see any proof you want, provided it is possible and practical.

* Bring your own wheels to demonstrations, or hire one from a local supplier: we welcome the opportunity to test on any wheel.

* See a demo on a 2015 model John Huxley wheel (often called a “Saturn” wheel), with a bouncy ivorine ball: This one of the most common wheels in the World. It has an 8/10 difficulty rating, and we can dismantle it for you to inspect and ensure it hasn’t been modified.

* See a demonstration at ONLINE casinos: You can also see a demo with an online casinos, although keep in mind most online casinos don’t allow bets after ball release. You can still see early and accurate predictions, so you know that the computers beat wheels I don’t own.

NOTE: If you want to see a LIVE demo on an online casino wheel, you must visit me in person. This is because typical internet connections are not fast enough to stream live video to you, while simultaneously downloading quality video from the online casino. Demos with live online casinos take significantly longer because of the delay between spins. If this is what you want, I only ask to be compensated for the extra time the demonstration takes. After all, you want to see enough spins for proof to be clear, but I don’t want to waste time. You can still see “live” spins via webcam (without visiting me) on the 2015 John Huxley wheel, OR physically send a wheel of your choice to me. Another option is you can record video of a wheel from an online casino for testing.

* Bring video recordings of a wheel: You can purchase video recordings of spins, or even record spins from online casinos. You should have at least 200 spins, and the video must be relatively smooth (consistent frame rate of at least 15 frames per second).

Bring other devices to compare: You are welcome to bring other devices to compare accuracy. We have many from other developers, most of which were given to use free by our players. We can bring these upon request.

Again if you are serious about purchasing, there is no reasonable proof you wont see. You can see anything you want if it is practical and possible.

[icashbot]

Hi steve watched one of your videos (second one down )
With all due respect From what i see i will give you 100% for trying but your computers need some upgrading
At the price you are selling them is unjustified.
It does have bells and whistles but i cant hear them  😃
I could make a few suggestions

Is your computer for novice players?
As you have to explain a lot on your vids.

The little challenge i was proposing was if you send me ..say maybe 50 to 100 continous recorded spins vid
(200 would be ideal)with the final revolutions
And result cut  ...you can choose from any casino does not have to be HD quality  i will perdict  with my titanium VB 2.2 ultron bot ( still working on the name) within 5 to 10 numbers the results  with some level  efficency    roughly 38%  to 48% edge and vice versa if u like  as a little experiment
Yes i know you are a busy guy and have had to many challenges and people being rude to you etc
But its a small genuine proposal and  can be conducted in private if you like at no risk

More importantly of all i hope i have not offended you or anyone else by my challenge

we all could all learn from this and play on

Thanks

Icashbot