No zero Roulette

[BellagioOwner]

Hi everyone. I know some casinos (online i think only so far) offer no-zero Roulette game.
Does anyone knows which casinos offer them? (since many posts i check in sites are outdated on the information they provide.)

If some sites-casinos started ofering no-zero roueltte game shouldn't more follow it as part of the market competititon? Or will the sites offering no-zero roulette also stop offering it as they would see that it is not profitable after all?

[Nick-the-Greek]

Hi BellagioOwner welcome to the forum.

The only non zero wheel (RNG) I've used recently is at BetVoyager - watch out for the Terms & Conditions though because they charging you 10% of any net winnings when you log out of the session!

Nick

[BellagioOwner]

is that the only limitation? so if i end up with profit of 60 units in session they will take 6 back leaving me at 54? seems fair deal for no zero roulette.

is there still the danger to be banned as account for excessive winnings or withdrawing too much money?

[Nick-the-Greek]

Watch out for this one as it is open to interpretation - How much is classed as large winnings? They can hold you money for 30 days without question!

"When there are large winnings involved, the administration reserves the right to undergo a full analysis of all of the player's game sessions in the duration of one month. During this time period, the player cannot withdraw his funds from the portal."

For more info check out the full T's & C's for yourself.

Stick to b&m casinos.

Nick

[Casperito]

Hi everyone. I know some casinos (online i think only so far) offer no-zero Roulette game.
Does anyone knows which casinos offer them? (since many posts i check in sites are outdated on the information they provide.)

If some sites-casinos started ofering no-zero roueltte game shouldn't more follow it as part of the market competititon? Or will the sites offering no-zero roulette also stop offering it as they would see that it is not profitable after all?

Hi Bellagio!
Yeah, so far that's also the only casino I've seen offering a no zero roulette. As far as I understand, that's less profitable for the casino than European or American type?
I've just checked out their website now and they have an upcoming roulette tournament which includes no-zero roulette too.

[Nick-the-Greek]

On the new BV home page they claim theirs is the only 'no zero' roulette wheel in the world!
Nick

[Steve]

If there is no zero, then there is no house edge.... unless they take money from you another way, which is exactly what they are doing. Its deceptive.

Also their fairness thing with the zip file is not conclusive proof. Encrypted archives can have one password that gives one unencrypted file, and another password gives a completely different file. They could just give the password that suits them.

[Turner]

Can someone explain non zero
Do you pay commission?
Is the payout less?
How does it work?

[Priyanka]

Can someone explain non zero
Do you pay commission?
Is the payout less?
How does it work?

You pay 10% commission on winnings.

[ati]

On the old software I found a way to a simple cheat, so the commission was often less than 10%.
When it was possible to add and remove money from the table during play, they only took the commission from the first amount I removed, so I didn't pay for the rest of the winnings.

[maestro]

i had some problems with bet voyager recently regarding withdraws i will let you know how it goes...

[BellagioOwner]

Encrypted archives can have one password that gives one unencrypted file, and another password gives a completely different file. They could just give the password that suits them.

Inside the .zip file there is only 1 .txt file password protected. Can this sigle .txt be unencrypted with 2 different passwords? that both will open it? If so then yes, this can be an integrity problem and huge one. But not sure that a single .txt file (passowrd protected) can be opened with 2 different passwords. I guess you was referring to situations that there are more than 1 files zipped inside the.zip archive?

Pretty late reply. sorry. Thought noone had answered anything new for long time

[Bayes]

I wrote a post about BV's randomness control back in 2011:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4030.0

[BellagioOwner]

thanks bayes.
So i guess BV and RNG are still safe and fair in terms of spins given, and encryption, hashes, security etc.
They don't need so far to rig their game, since this will only damage their reputation once proved rigged. What they do is  rely on the good old fair RNG to slowly make you lose fair and square