new thoughts on 4x4 drive system (loose to win)

albertojonas · Oct 15, 06:03 AM 2010

i played Hermes (The Great) system with some Katt..(The Mighty) alterations...

here it goes.

i play as hermes said but without LW trigger strategy.

so i start:
bet on the two last appearences of dozzens, Like X12, X21, X13, X31, X23, X32
on loss alternate to:
bet on the two that did not come (if came 2dz i bet 1,3 and so on...)
Progression for this is 1/1 - 3/3 - 10/10 stay on 10/10 till proffit this side

and (this is the secret ingredient) cover the looser dozzen with barracuda prog
+1 on win or loss till in proffit.

I also cover zero with one chip for about 16 spins then parlay my bet.

EXample

BET 2nd last+Last

come dozzen / bet

1
1
2 bet 1/1 (1,2) + 1on the looser 3 net -1 (zero)
3 looser wins bet 3/3 (1,2) +2 on the looser 3
etc...

Someone could please test this and post results, tweaks, etc...

Till now i am in proffit 1042 chips with this
could be luck
start with 500 chips bankroll
1st stoploss at 200 chips or till exaust bankroll.

never did neer will.

Cheers

Kattila · Oct 15, 07:03 AM 2010

Hi Alberto,

Could you post a larger example (around 30 spins)? Thanks.

albertojonas · Oct 15, 03:18 PM 2010

Spin 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37	number 19 28 8 34 22 9 7 14 2 36 8 24 25 31 8 23 31 27 25 27 20 1 18 2 30 36 18 3 18 34 9 15 16 24 34 35 32	Dozzen 2 3 1 3 2 1 1 2 1 3 1 2 3 3 1 2 3 3 3 3 2 1 2 2 3 3 2 1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 1 1 1	Bet Layout 1-2,3 3-2,3 1-1,2 1-1,3 1-2,3 3-1,2 1-1,2 1-1,2 3-1,2 1-2,3 1-1,3 1-1,2 3-3,2 10-2,3 1-1,3 1-1,2 3-2,3 1-2,3 1-2,3 1-2,3 3-2,3 1-1,3 3-2,1 10-1,2 10-3,2 10-2,3 10-2,3 10-1,3 1-1,2 1-2,3 1-1,3 3-1,2 1-1,2 3-1,2 10-2,3 1-2,3	Looser RUN BET 1u-1 2u-1 3u-3 4u-2 5u-1 1u-3 2u-3 3u-3 1u-3 2u-1 3u-2 4u-3 5u-1 1u-3 2u-2 3u-3 1u-1 2u-1 3u-1 4u-1 1u-1 2u-2 1u-3 2u-3 3u-1 4u-1 5u-1 6u-2 7u-3 8u-1 9u-2 10u-3 11u-3 12u-3 1u-1 2u-1	Loss 3 8 4 6 7 7 4 5 7 4 5 6 11 21 4 5 7 4 5 6 7 4 7 22 23 24 25 26 9 10 11 16 13 18 21 4	Net 0 1 -1 -3 8 2 -1 4 2 -1 -2 6 4 9 -1 4 2 -1 -2 6 2 2 -4 -16 7 -12 5 4 -6 -7 16 -7 20 18 9 2	Balance 500 500 500 501 500 497 505 507 506 510 512 511 509 515 519 528 527 531 533 532 530 536 538 540 536 520 527 515 520 524 518 511 527 520 540 558 567 569 569	Formation 4Bet Layout b a b a a b b b b b a a b a a	Win/loss track l l l w l w w w w l w l l w l
looser run bet only resets in new profit by itself

other bet resets after win win on 3rd level or after just one win if already ahead

looks promissing maybe some tweaks,
countin' on you people

Cheers,
Al

albertojonas · Oct 15, 03:20 PM 2010

Just clarifying something...

formation 4Bet layout means:

a - same last two dozzens

b- other than the last dozzen

other thing... From original idea zero would be covered every bet so at spin 37 we would start to put instead of 1, ###so many### chips on ZERO.
what progression should we use along for zero bet?
do we run a separate bankroll for that?

Could someone pls help me test this one as it is my last hope...

thx everyone

albertojonas · Oct 15, 10:41 PM 2010

Spielbank Wiesbaden Permanenzen

Tisch: 9
Datum: 11.10.2010

Spin
1
2
3
4
5
6
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9
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104
105
106

Num
0
36
27
28
25
30
9
34
23
20
25
28
34
35
12
26
30
22
13
13
8
29
18
0
28
11
36
16
14
17
18
31
22
16
13
22
22
21
12
14
10
11
16
3
15
14
4
0
27
35
15
36
4
1
4
17
21
17
20
21
5
23
2
12
20
11
11
6
21
20
27
28
12
10
19
1
1
14
13
13
0
3
23
4
33
12
14
7
9
2
10
20
16
10
14
6
33
3
35
23
4
1
25
34
1
34

Dozzen

3
3
3
3
3
1
3
2
2
3
3
3
3
1
3
3
2
2
2
1
3
2
0
3
2
3
2
2
2
2
3
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
1
2
1
2
2
1
0
3
3
2
3
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
1
2
1
1
2
1
1
1
2
2
3
3
1
1
2
1
1
2
2
2
0
1
2
1
3
1
2
1
1
1
1
2
2
1
2
1
3
1
3
2
1
1
3
3
1
3

Bet Layout

1-1,3
1-1,3
3-1,3
10-2.3
1-.2.3
1-.2.3
1-.2.3
1-.2.3
3-2.3
1-1.2
3-1.3
10-1.3
10-2.3
10-2.3
10-2.3
10-1,2
1-1.3
3-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
2-2.3
4-2.3
4-2,3
4-2,3
4-2,3
4-2,3
4-2,3
12-2,3
40-1,2
40-1.2
4-1,2
4-1.2
4-1.2
4-1.2
12-1.2
40-1,3
1-1,3
3-1.3
1-1.2
1-2.3
3-1,3
1-1.3
3-1.3
10-1,2
1-1.2
1-1.2
1-1.2
1-1.2
1-1.2
1-1.2
1-1,2
1-1,2
2-1,2
2-1.2
2-1,2
2-1,2
2-1,2
6-1,2
20-2,3
20-2.3
20-1,3
20-1,3
40-2.3
40-1,2
40-1,2
4-1,2
4-1,2
12-1,3
4-2,3
4-1,3
4-2,3
4-1,2
8-2,3
24-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
8-1,2
16-1,2
48-1,2
16-2,3
16-1,2
16-1,3
16-2,3
48-1,2
160-1,2
160-1,3
320-1,3

Looser RUN BET

1.2
2.2
1.2
2.1
3.1
4.1
5.1
6.1
1.1
2.3
3.2
4.2
5.1
6.1
7.1
8.3
9.2
10.1
1.1
2,1
3,1
4,1
5.1
6,1
7,1
8,1
9,1
10,1
1,1
2,1
3,1
4,1
5,1
6,1
7,1
8,3
9,3
10-.3
1.3
2.3
3.3
4.3
5.2
6.2
1.2
2.3
3.1
1.2
2.2
1.2
2.3
3.3
4,3
5,3
6,3
7,3
8,3
9,3
10,3
1,3
2.3
3.3
4,3
5.3
6,3
7,1
8,1
9,2
10,2
1.1
2,3
3,3
4,3
5,3
6,2
7,1
8,2
9,1
10,3
1,2
2,3
3,3
4,3
5,3
6,3
7,3
8,3
9,3
10,3
1,3
2,3
4,1
5,3
6,2
7,1
8,3
9,3
10,2
1,2
3,3

Loss

3
4
7
22
5
6
7
8
7
4
9
24
25
26
27
28
11
16
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
9
10
11
12
13
14
31
88
89
18
9
10
15
28
85
8
7
4
5
7
4
7
22
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
5
6
7
8
9
18
47
48
49
50
81
82
83
12
13
30
15
16
17
18
17
50
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
33
98
35
36
37
38
104
329
330
641

Net

0
2
-4
8
-2
-3
-4
10
-4
2
0
-12
5
-8
3
2
-11
-7
1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6
-7
-8
3
2
1
0
-1
4
-10
32
31
-6
3
2
-15
-14
35
10
2
-1
4
2
2
-4
8
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6
-7
-8
-9
1
0
-1
-2
6
0
-26
-24
-22
10
-78
38
37
0
-13
6
-3
-4
-5
-6
-14
22
5
4
3
2
1
0
-1
-2
-30
46
13
12
11
-17
-80
-302
150
319

Balance
1500
1500
1500
1500
1500
1500
1500
1500
1502
1498
1506
1504
1501
1497
1507
1503
1505
1505
1493
1498
1490
1493
1495
1484
1477
1478
1478
1477
1475
1472
1468
1463
1457
1450
1442
1445
1447
1448
1448
1447
1451
1441
1473
1504
1498
1501
1503
1488
1474
1509
1519
1521
1520
1524
1526
1528
1524
1532
1530
1527
1523
1518
1512
1505
1497
1488
1489
1489
1488
1486
1492
1492
1466
1442
1420
1430
1352
1390
1427
1427
1414
1420
1417
1413
1408
1402
1388
1410
1415
1419
1422
1424
1425
1425
1424
1422
1392
1438
1451
1463
1474
1457
1377
1075
1225
1544

Formation 4Bet Layout

a
a
b
a
a
a
a
a
b
b
a
b
a
a
b
b
b
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
b
a
a
a
a
a
a
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a
a
b
b
b
a
a
b
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
b
a
b
a
b
b
a
a
a
a
b
b
b
b
b
b
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
b
b
b
b
b
a
b
a
a
a

Win/loss track

w
l
l
w
w
w
w
l
w
l
l
l
w
l
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
l
w
w
w
w
w
l
l
w
l
w
w
l
w
l
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
l
l
l
l
w
l
w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
l
l
l
w
w

looser run bet only resets in new profit by itself

other bet resets after win win on 3rd level or after just one win if already ahead

at 10 units on looser run reset and start to play at next stage 2-6-20 / 4-12-40 / 8-24 80 / 16-48-160

albertojonas · Oct 15, 10:43 PM 2010

this was a session from hell.

very hard to recoup but did it with luck.

some advice or changes needed.

cheers

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