How casino views these two players ?

[jekhb76]

Thx
Never heard of it, but orange reminds me of two things, the fruit and the Netherlands

Well i'm Dutch and i also like oranges   

[The General]

You guys are nuts
I asked a clear question and nobody gave me an answer:


Do you think the idea of Steven is viable and can work ?

What idea?  You never said what idea is?  Who is Steven? 
Sorry but, I can't read your mind.

[jekhb76]

What idea?  You never said what idea is?  Who is Steven? 
Sorry but, I can't read your mind.

If you did paid More attention you would Have known.
Here is what roulettebeater said and asked on page 1 of this thread.

There was a guy called "steven" who was here for short time and fought with almost everybody including "tuner".

That guy came up with a nice idea, it still pops up in my head, he said that if you want to avoid detection, supposing that you have a winner System, the idea is simple, all what you have to do is to collect profits and then place a losing bet on football match (bet for the weak team) and cover the favourable team on betfair, by doing so you are transfering your funds smoothly out the casino, do. you think something like that would work long term ? Will betfair payout without problems?

[Irish88]

I go to one particular live casino quite a bit. Have been going for 5 years. I have never seen anyone backed off and some of these guys are routinely winning I believe. About 3 weeks ago I saw a guy buy in for 1000 in 25 dollar chips and walk away with 30,000  in about 8 spins and no one said a word. He goes everyday and routinely wins.  He plays the same numbers everytime. Around the single 0.  I have seen a guy with 100,000 profit in front of him before. Guy was betting around the zeros also. Not a word.

[The General]

If you did paid More attention you would Have known.
Here is what roulettebeater said and asked on page 1 of this thread.

There was a guy called "steven" who was here for short time and fought with almost everybody including "tuner".

That guy came up with a nice idea, it still pops up in my head, he said that if you want to avoid detection, supposing that you have a winner System, the idea is simple, all what you have to do is to collect profits and then place a losing bet on football match (bet for the weak team) and cover the favourable team on betfair, by doing so you are transfering your funds smoothly out the casino, do. you think something like that would work long term ? Will betfair payout without problems?

There was a guy called "steven" who was here for short time and fought with almost everybody including "tuner".

Yep, still didn't know who Steven was or what he wrote until you just posted it.  That's why I asked.  LOL.

I suppose you could do that for small wins, but you're giving up a sizeable amount of money doing so.

[Roulettebeater]

I go to one particular live casino quite a bit. Have been going for 5 years. I have never seen anyone backed off and some of these guys are routinely winning I believe. About 3 weeks ago I saw a guy buy in for 1000 in 25 dollar chips and walk away with 30,000  in about 8 spins and no one said a word. He goes everyday and routinely wins.  He plays the same numbers everytime. Around the single 0.  I have seen a guy with 100,000 profit in front of him before. Guy was betting around the zeros also. Not a word.

Live casino ? Do you mean land casino ?

[Irish88]

Yes sorry. B & M. American Wheel table.

[The General]

I go to one particular live casino quite a bit. Have been going for 5 years. I have never seen anyone backed off and some of these guys are routinely winning I believe. About 3 weeks ago I saw a guy buy in for 1000 in 25 dollar chips and walk away with 30,000  in about 8 spins and no one said a word. He goes everyday and routinely wins.  He plays the same numbers everytime. Around the single 0.  I have seen a guy with 100,000 profit in front of him before. Guy was betting around the zeros also. Not a word.

Yes, you'll see that type of action in LV.  The guys probably aren't regular winners though, they probably just appear to you to be regular winners.
Again, many casinos like big action.  However, LV does ban some players.  I'm currently banned from roughly half of LV.

[Irish88]

What is a regular winner to you? How would you know if I am capable of not knowing who is winning most of the time?  I mean no disrespect. But for all this talk about "systems" or "repeaters" I don't think any of it really works long term.  I am not going to sit at a table through 37 spins. To me I just play a quadrant of the wheel that seems to be hitting above avg. Buy in,  play as many spins as you can go. You lose 2-3 in a row then out.  There have been many times I turn 200 into 3000. I win an avg 7/10 times.  I have had 15 winning sessions in a row and no one has said a word to me. I don't have a system. I just play by feel and know when to stop. I just try to figure what which wheel is best to buy in. And hope to get 5 hits or so. Then out.

If the guy wins 8/10 times and in profit of 30,000 but had 2 losing sessions is he not a regular winner?

[The General]

What is a regular winner to you? How would you know if I am capable of not knowing who is winning most of the time?

Someone that wins far outside of what the theoretical predicts.  Some people know, some people don't.  It's very tough to tell without careful observation.  Most novices wouldn't be able to tell. 

By the way, I'm not implying that you're by any means a novice.  For all I know you could be another AP.  Usually and immediate indicator is how someone bets. If the guy's betting 20 to 30 numbers, betting the zeros straight up, and then splitting the zeros, and betting corners, streets, etc.... then that's a pretty good indicator that he's just another gambler.  Most likely a new one too.   

I mean no disrespect. But for all this talk about "systems" or "repeaters" I don't think any of it really works long term.

Some stuff works when played against the wheel, rather than the random game.

To me I just play a quadrant of the wheel that seems to be hitting above avg

Sounds pretty good to me.  Hope you win biG! 

If the guy wins 8/10 times and in profit of 30,000 but had 2 losing sessions is he not a regular winner?

To me, that doesn't really mean much, as it doesn't really convey whether or not he's winning outside of the theoretical.  The 8/10 times doesn't describe for how many spins he plays, how long a session is.  Sounds more like a random gambler to me.  If he played sessions that were 300 to 600 spins in length, and was winning a substantial number of units at each session then that would be more impressive.  But the dollar amount won doesn't really mean much...meaning it doesn't mean that he's a consistent winner or winning many units. 

[Roulettebeater]

General

Next time pay more attention to what others write and stop behaving as you are the only one who has the shittyhollymolly grail

[The General]

General

Next time pay more attention to what others write and stop behaving as you are the only one who has the shittyhollymolly grail

Hmmm...well sorry then.

Regardless, I'm hoping that I've contributed some valuable information in the thread.

Cheers!

-The General

[nottophammer]

Regardless, I'm hoping that I've contributed some valuable information in the thread.

doubt it