Beware of junscissorhands.

[Kan@am@]

you got the point.

[Kan@am@]

on other hand ,than more examples of scaming materials  players will see ,then more cautious they will be with their money .

[Steve]

Most people need to learn for themselves. I was once scammed over about a 5-year period by one guy. And I didn't believe people warning me, until it was way too late. Then I became one of the people warning others. I warned one guy who got really offended and basically acted as if I was a terrible person for speaking against what appeared to be a really nice and religious man. The scammer had him fooled too.

I learned a lot from it. One of the lessons was how nice some guy seems means nothing in business. Maybe you now learned that too. One of the first times I had lunch with him, he paid from a huge wad of $100 bills from his pocket. Even back then I thought it was a bit like showing off, but I dismissed it because he seemed really genuine. It's a long story. If I ever find him, I'll cave his head in. I ended up finding his daughter but it wasn't her fault her dad is a piece of shit. Rather than hassle her I decided to let it go.

Anyway back on track, follow all the avenues I suggested. Ive been through all the reporting processes a few times.

[6th-sense]

Most people need to learn for themselves. I was once scammed over about a 5-year period by one guy. And I didn't believe people warning me, until it was way too late. Then I became one of the people warning others. I warned one guy who got really offended and basically acted as if I was a terrible person for speaking against what appeared to be a really nice and religious man. The scammer had him fooled too.

I learned a lot from it. One of the lessons was how nice some guy seems means nothing in business. Maybe you now learned that too. One of the first times I had lunch with him, he paid from a huge wad of $100 bills from his pocket. Even back then I thought it was a bit like showing off, but I dismissed it because he seemed really genuine. It's a long story. If I ever find him, I'll cave his head in. I ended up finding his daughter but it wasn't her fault her dad is a piece of shit. Rather than hassle her I decided to let it go.

Anyway back on track, follow all the avenues I suggested. Ive been through all the reporting processes a few times.

Really honest of your experience Steve ..and tbh anyone with a hg would not sell it
They wouldn’t have to

[Steve]

I wouldnt sell a HG, as in give anyone access to the secrets. At least not until I'm finished with it.

If I had the HG, I would both use it myself, and look at ways to code it into software that others could use then pay you part of winnings or an ongoing fee. This would maximize revenue, which is why I do it with my technology. If you play only by yourself, your revenue is limited. You cant just win $1m overnight and expect no problems. Using teams is a much better option, if you can maintain secrets. But it's still not the HG. If this could not be done without risking the secrets, I would exclusively use it myself.

Saying if something worked it would not be sold at all is incorrect. But if its something like an ebook that contains the HG that beats all roulette, real wheel and RNG, that's just asking for trouble if you think its not a scam.

[Kan@am@]

Anyway back on track, follow all the avenues I suggested. Ive been through all the reporting processes a few times.

Did you ever got your money back through these procedures?

[Bigbroben]

Well Kanam, thanks for having lived this, I will not need to walk the same path.

Silverthorne is way cheaper, by the way!
Anyway, it's ok to pay for some stuff,  just for the heck of learning tactics and find new avenues.  I did spend a few bucks for books on Amazon.  Although some claimed to explain revolutionary unfailable method, aka HG, I never believed them but was curious about their ideas.  10$ here and there.
But 5000$!  I mean...

I wish you good luck with this.

[Steve]

Did you ever got your money back through these procedures?

Once, yes. Other times, no. If you have details like the scammer's real name and address, and you have clear records of the conversation, there's a good chance of getting somewhere.

Check your pm in a few minutes as I need to explain something that will help. I'm sure scissors is reading. I emailed him a few days ago but he hasn't responded. Pretty clear scammer wants to run with your money.

[Kan@am@]

Most likely he is here  under different nickname.At least he can't make his tricks here anymore.

[Steve]

For all we know he could have scammed under a different name before. Anyone new could come here or on a forum and say they have the HG, and usually there are a few people who believe it. Ive been scammed before too so I cant say I was any smarter back then. But you learn some good lessons.

Anyway its not over. I suggest focus on the approaches I explained without delay.

Scissors, you're a piece of shit. Not a man.

[Kan@am@]

Well.Its  will stay on his conscience.