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GUT

Started by Darderos, Feb 01, 10:45 AM 2019

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RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Feb 19, 03:11 PM 2019

This is a legit question to help new players.
Why should one of the 18 numbers that have not hit be more likely to hit than a number that has hit?  Where's the logic?
For example, if the number of pockets on the wheel determines the probability of a number winning, and the number of pockets on the wheel remains the same from one spin to the next, why should the odds change?

Good evening

few things:

- I never said the unhits are more likely to hit
- I never said the odds change
- I never said the math changes

I stated in my thread that i was playing it for fun really and it happened to be working so I would continue doing it

peckerheads like yourself is why I deleted the thread I just don't have time for the stupidity and games OR pointless 90 million spin tests

the entire world knows how the general feels. We get it.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Madi

Quote from: The General on Feb 19, 03:11 PM 2019

This is a legit question to help new players.
Why should one of the 18 numbers that have not hit be more likely to hit than a number that has hit?  Where's the logic?
For example, if the number of pockets on the wheel determines the probability of a number winning, and the number of pockets on the wheel remains the same from one spin to the next, why should the odds change?

These unhit numbers  more probable bcz after 18 hit number show up i will get an AXE and cut down the hit pockets.now it becomes a broken wheel. Now dealer will run the ball. Now number of pocket greatly reduced , odd has changed. Now its 100% sure next hit is my number. I predict the next spin. Done. Now going to water the 🎃

The General

Quote from: Madi on Feb 19, 09:15 PM 2019

These unhit numbers  more probable bcz after 18 hit number show up i will get an AXE and cut down the hit pockets.now it becomes a broken wheel. Now dealer will run the ball. Now number of pocket greatly reduced , odd has changed. Now its 100% sure next hit is my number. I predict the next spin. Done. Now going to water the 🎃

Ha!  Logic for a change.  Yes, the axe will change the odds.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Mako

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 19, 08:12 PM 2019
Hey Mako I have requested Winkel to comment.
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Here is Track Four software for unhits/hit singles tracking.

Very nice, works perfectly.  :thumbsup:

RouletteGhost

am I on a different planet?

creating an issue thats non-existant? LMAO noone claimed to change odds cowboys
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

The General

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 19, 09:52 PM 2019
am I on a different planet?

creating an issue thats non-existant? LMAO noone claimed to change odds cowboys

Then what's the purpose of using the system?  Why test?  Why jump through all of the hoops if it changes nothing?  ::)
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

We need you, in every thread, to rehash the same thing.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Firefox

I think it's fair enough to challenge ideas in the general forum.

There's a lot of guys new to the game who will be reading threads like this, and trying to make sense of what they should try and why.

But I can also see how it can be frustrating to have the reasons behind betting patterns examined, if they were only meant to be for fun.

There's a special section here for random systems, where the maths guys and advantage players are  banned from replying, but nobody seems to use it.  It would save a lot of conflict if the fun ideas went in there.

The beginners and newbies would need to apply for access to post there, so they'd be more aware of what they'd be signing up for.  Everyone would be happier and more content :D

The General

The GUT thread has gone on for years.  it's been coded, and it's been proven to work no better than just guessing.  But like the Martingale, it pops back up every so often.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Nimo

If you look at my unholy drinking vessel system, it takes on the whole gambit from first hit until 37th, using KTF unhit for first 18 hits then repeats GUT for last 19.  Its a lot of numbers, its a lot of tracking, uses progression but also profits which I'd say is the bottom line for all of us.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Feb 20, 12:50 AM 2019
The GUT thread has gone on for years.  it's been coded, and it's been proven to work no better than just guessing.  But like the Martingale, it pops back up every so often.

I know you have a hard on for bothering winkel and rehashing your hatred of gut, you make threads on various forums about it. So really, we get it

No one is saying the math gets beat. People just like to play in creative ways. No harm to you.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

nottophammer

Here is 26  R-sim spins; last 2 #'s are 5-29; are we near to crossing of the non-hit.


How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Now the crossing of the non-hit is not near.
There is the crossing of the more than hit once; so two hits too repeat, but would you?
There is the KTF column. We see this game started 8/10; but what are the larger group? The larger group; are the non-hits. There is an average for non-hit in spins 11-20; the average of 7 non-hits.
You see 8 non-hits have landed. So a fast set for non-hits.
Spin 22 shows 6; hit more than once, 6; 2 hits. It shows balance, but we need a number to go to a three hit. But you are told to watch the TROT of the non-hit. So the non-hits are not showing that they will cross yet.
Averages would say the 16th non-hit should not land before spins 25/26; so more repeats could happen.
So if you are just watching, you can see that the repeats have slowed the non-hit, spin 26 is where we could have seen the 16th non-hit land.
Would you not now bet the non-hit?





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nottophammer

You might as well see the average for 17th non-hit.
This is the Generals starburst spins; 10330 spins. Each of the 56 games is 185 spins.

And here is the gold standard; Random.org. Again each game here is 148 spins, 730 games. Known max from them is 8 spins.

This is bookies RNG,878 games max spin 9, just like R-sim.


The question is; what max spin could we see? But the average to hit is 2 spins
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

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