Betvoyager No Zero Roulette: worse in short term, better in long term

[superman]

Of course bv nz still has house edge.

but in reality you´ll need to have a 10% edge over the house just to break even.
In the long run it´s a wolf in sheep´s clothing.

BVNZ pays 36/1 (which includes your stake) which, to me
is 35/1 so there is a house edge.

One thing everyone needs to understand about the 10% @ BV is.

A zero wheel eventually takes 2.7% no matter what.

BV NZ only takes 10% from your winnings, you have to win your session to walk away with 90% of what you won, it does not happen during a session, the odds are still a true 50/50, 2/1 etc up to single number bets at 36/1, there's 36 possible outcomes NOT 37 as in single zero, the difference between 36/1 and 37/1 is 2.7% = house edge .

Seems very simple to understand, not so?

[denzie]

Iow....just track till one ec is behind and flatbet to profit. In theory it can't lose. Exept your patience 

[pcsoftdiy]

Remember in this 5620 spins you don't have any house edge, but in single zero, you will lose 311 156 units per 5620 spins just because there is one more zero.

Corrected

[vineeee]

Site down? Is that happening often? 

[Darek]

BVNZ pays 36/1 (which includes your stake) which, to me
is 35/1 so there is a house edge.

With the payment is as you wrote, but I do not see here the "house edge".

a) We put 1 unit on one of the fields - we win and receive 1 as a refund of our +35 wins = 36 units from the table

b) I understand that in your opinion it should be 1 as a return of our + 36 win = 37 units from the table.
SUMMARY: Hitting 1 number = 37 units from the table.

NOW WE REVERSE BETTING:

a) On each of the 36 fields you set 1 unit - a full table (!) spent 36 units and after you stop the wheel you download 37 units from the table?


SECOND EXAMPLE:

a) You place 18 units for a simple RED chance (you'll never say that the No-Zero casino has an advantage here) - you win / lose 18 units.
b) You place 1 unit for each red number = 18 units
you win / lose 18 units.

You will bet 1/3 or 1/4 numbers - you will get an equal, proportional refund.

THERE IS NO HOUSE EDGE

[Darek]

The casino organizes a football match and for your team to take part in it, you have to bear various costs - travel, hotel, etc. (you have to take risks in roulette).
If you win the match - the casino will refund you and pay 10 units for winning.

You have two options to choose from:
1) You can play the ENTIRE MATCH with 10 players against 11 casino players and if you win, you get 10 units.
2) You can play the ENTIRE MATCH with 11 players against 11 casino players, but then (ONLY if you win) the casino will refund you and deduct 10% and you will get 9 units to win.

For stopping a 10% fee - WHICH IS AFTER THE FINISHED AND ONLY WINNING MATCH - is it worth the WHOLE MATCH and EVERY MATCH which you decide to play (!) Play in weakness?
Is it worth reducing your chances of recovering all incurred costs and receiving an additional 9 bonus units for these 10%?

I have a very unequivocal opinion on this subject and this issue of reflection is closed to me.

This is obviously an illustrative example, so please do not enter into mathematical discussions that 10/11 is not the same as 35/37 etc., because it is obvious.

But this example in no way reflects the possibilities offered by the lack of zero in roulette.

There is an old rule in roulette that the more you bet on the table, the more you will ultimately lose, because in each long turn you pay tax.
So the more you bet, the more units you'll finally give away to the casino - you know very well what I mean.

Now let's imagine that you have a game where you can place different bets during each single hand from which * something always comes back to you, because it will NEVER be zero.
You can fix the table in such a way that after losing, ALWAYS 49% of the table will come back to you, and even if you wanted, it would be 49.9 / 50.1
- It gives you amazing gaming comfort.

* I mean such opposite betting - 499RED / 501BLACK is a stupid bet, but only as an example that "something always comes back to you".
It doesn't have to be just a simple chance.

When in the French roulette, which gives 50% loss of simple chances (that's why there are no other wheels for me and I'm surprised that anyone plays other), you bet 2 units in ONE GAME, e.g. BLACK and you lose, the casino will take you 1 unit.

When you finish the whole session - e.g. 200-300 ROTATION and earn 10 profit units at the end on roulette without zero, then the casino will take you 10% of it - that is also 1 unit.
You really can't see the difference?

REMINDER: 10% is charged after the entire session, not after a single game.

Another thing is if someone has such a need - it is possible to generate further numbers for tracking trends, without the risk of losing money.
It is not possible to place equivalent bets from the same group against each other and press SPIN (it does not work - it is "dead"), but you can do it like this:

1/18 - 3 unit
3rd 12 - 2 unit
six-line 19/24 - 1 site

and then it works - we have another spin for which we do not pay.

For me it all looks just too good, there are very low rates, thanks to which you can apply very detailed and balanced betting, the lack of zero additionally means that you do not lose on "insurance" of this zero, with high bets - this "insurance" often disturbs the balanced betting system with regular wheels.

All this means that I have doubts whether everything is all right and BetVoyager does not use any "ugly" actions to otherwise undermine the players' chances.
That's why I admit and write about it openly that I have touched on this topic on several portals, because I want to play at BetVoyager, but I am very careful - I have very little confidence in the online world.
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