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The Premise For The Fun Game/Challenge

Started by chrisbis, Dec 26, 08:38 AM 2010

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chrisbis

The Premise For The Fun Game Challenge

I started off the Fun Game Challenge because of this question that kept popping
into my head every-time I started a new game on a new casino- usually with free/ no deposit casino monies.

The on-line casino's send U regular (every day in some cases) updates and deposit teasers- obviously trying their best to get U to depart with Ur hard earned $, Ã,£ E currency.

Quite often, its the form of a free Chip, to go and use in the On-line casino, but nearly always, the Chip is of no-use form the Game of Roulette, since the wagering/playthrough is not permitted on the Roulette table, or is so great (up to 40 times the bonus) that U would never be able to realise the bonus and withdraw any monies U should win from it.

But it got me thinking.

Given a small amount of free money (free chip)............
or should U be tempted to deposit a small amount into an On-line casino,
how would U go about starting to bet/wager that money?

So in other words- how do U start to play a new game on a new casino, with low $/Ã,£/E?

Should one start off with a small EC bet say Red or Black?

Could U try out a single or double DOZEN stake?
Maybe a COLUMN or two?

Or would U go for a few splits, and hope for the best?

If the Marque- shows no numbers- does that matter?

Since its been said so many times before, that each outcome is completely independent from the previous, how do U lay Ur first bet down?

I'm interested in fellows play technique thoughts of this subject,
as I think it translates well, into how decisions are made by each player, when faced with a new table/casino.

Can I open a debate here, on how U/We/Each Player, starts there journey at the table, whether that's On-line RNG, On-line Airball/Slingshot, On-line Live Wheel, On-line TV wheel, or ultimately, Bricks & Mortar Casino?

What preparations do U make?

What notes do U have around U?

How do U decide Ur first move?

VLS

Quoteor should you be tempted to deposit a small amount into an On-line casino,
how would you go about starting to bet/wager that money?

Hi Chris,

The best way would be flat betting with an edge.

Second-best would be a POSITIVE progression, reusing the units without affecting your base (i.e. paroli type).

...For obvious reasons Negative (up as you lose) progressions and small banks do not match!

Well, let's see what the other fellers can say about your interesting questions.
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chrisbis

What would be Ur first bet?..............And Why?

Answers in two phases- (please)

  • With no numbers what-so-ever  showing on the Marque
  • With 13-15 numbers (past sins) showing on the Marque

VLS

Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 26, 09:11 AM 2010
* With no numbers what-so-ever  showing on the marquee

No bet at all. I'm no clairvoyant! :D


Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 26, 09:11 AM 2010
*With 13-15 numbers (past sins) showing on the marquee

Would need at least 10 numbers.

I'd look for active triggers, then play for its continuation (and believe in a closed-circuit game like roulette, when you look at the wheel there's always something going. i.e. if it's not making zones then it's spaces or repeaters clumping, etc.).

I can't foresee any order of bets because in this game you learn you are only a Sailman, adapting perpetually to "current conditions" and those conditions change as spins go by.

Let's see others' opinions :)
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chrisbis

Quote from: VLS on Dec 26, 09:51 AM 2010
No bet at all. I'm no clairvoyant! :D


Would need at least 10 numbers

I can't foresee any order of bets because in this game you learn you are only a Sailman, adapting perpetually to "current conditions" and those conditions change as spins go by.

Let's see others' opinions :)


I'd still love to know- given your many years Roulette experience,
and say given the same position as millions of new Roulette players
face everyday as they join the swelling ranks of the Roulette playing community-

how would you lay down your 50 bucks for the first time?

So Victor- how do you eat your creme Egg? ?

Proofreaders2000

Good question Chrisbis.  A free fifty dollar play chip is a good incentive to deposit   ;)

If I'm playing RNG Roulette, I would try something simple, like even chance missing 4 times in a row, then betting martingale 1,2,4,8,16.  Any even chance missing 9 in a row on the first attempt (you know that game is very biased  :-\ )


chrisbis

Thanx for that Proof.

I myself, given its a new casino, new RNG to me, might just try to force the Zero.

2 Chips on Red
2 Chips on Black
2 Chip on Zero

That would be my first (very first bet)

Then say Number #28 spun for the first result- my second bet would be:-

2 Chips on Red
2 Chips on Black
1 Chip on Zero
1 Chip   on #28

Then after that, each bet would be the same, except I'd change the "Floating" number bet
to the next number spun, and chase each subsequent number around the table.

I'm obviously looking for repeaters here, plus my arse is covered on the Zero.

As soon as Zero hits, I'd drop the Red Black "piston" (is a metaphor for using the Red & Black bet to force the zero to show its Ugly head)

Thereafter (hoping the BR is still hold) I'll put more numbers on the last spun numbers till im covering at least nine numbers.

If I get anywhere near $100 BR, then I'd consider switching to s range of plays from the following systems:-
F LAT INO CWB..............using Ophis tracker.
Twisteruk 24
PPPC bet- which I understand to be mirage of Low + 3rd DOZEN / High + 1St DOZEN
Drogansons 6 Slits To Win.
One of Kattila many ideas
Albalaha- repeaters from last 18 bet
And others.......................................

flukey luke

Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 26, 09:11 AM 2010
What would be your first bet?..............And Why?

Answers in two phases- (please)

  • With no numbers what-so-ever  showing on the marquee
  • With 13-15 numbers (past sins) showing on the marquee


I would never bet on roulette without any history. So that rules out the first option.
With the second option, 13-15 spins is normally enough to get an idea of what's happening.
I have several methods which I could track using the 13-15 spins.
There are many different scenarios possible. One of my methods could be experiencing a favourable cycle. Or maybe even a poor cycle. If the indicators are strong here, I will bet one way or the other. (It makes sense to me at least to back the opposite of my method if it is in a poor cycle) The indicators are the most important factor for me and I look for stability. Roulette can run very smoothly for a while and then can quickly turn brutal chopping and changing all over place. If you have a way of reaing this, it certainly can help. The more you understand your particular bet and what can affect it throughout the game, the better of you will be at adapting to all the different circumstances that can prevail.

chrisbis

In the same way as I asked VLS.

What would U do- if U had to?

IE. if U had never used a particular casino before, and had to bet, what would U do?
(I'm still saying- U have the benefit of all Ur years playing experience to hand)

U see Forum Chaps- millions of new players join the Roulette gaming world every year,
and I'm trying to do my/our bit in helping those new players get over their first few minutes of Roulette playing.

There maybe Guests viewing here who are doing their homework first, before spending a dime at the wheel, lets give them some easy first time plays, and stop the RED/BLACK spammers taking the rip out of unsuspecting new players.

So, Luke- how do you eat your creme Egg? ?

flukey luke

If I had just rocked up to the casino and deposited $50 or something like that, I would be tempted to play Roy Ward Dickson's 'Hot number system' It is not that complicated and it kind of has a physical approach to the game which can't do any harm.

Roy Ward Dickson said a playable hot number is...

a. One that has not come up for at least thirty consecutive spins. ie. 30 spins or more never less.

b. One that after such an "establishing period of absence" finally came up.

c. And which did so twice more during the next 19 spins or less, subject to the special exceptions below.

That is three shows in 20 spins or less after an absence of 30 spins or more.

SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.
A number is NOT playable if it comes up three times in a row.
A number is NOT playable if the DIFFERENCE in the 'gap' between the first-and-second appearance and the 'gap' between the second-and-third appearances consists of more than six.

Say the qualifying numbers' initial two shows were on the first and seventh spins, that is a 'gap' of 6 and the third qualifying show came up on the 19th spin, that is a 'gap' of 12 spins, then the DIFFERENCE in the 'gaps' of 6 & 12 = 6. The number is playable!

Again, suppose the initial two shows are on the first and third spins, that is a 'gap' of 2 and the third show is on the twelveth spin, that is a 'gap' of 9, so the DIFFERENCE in the'gaps' of 2 & 9 = 7. The number is unplayable!

Another example, suppose the initial two shows are on the first and tenth spins, that is a 'gap' of 9 and the third show is on the twentieth spin, that is a 'gap' of 10, so the DIFFERENCE in the'gaps' of 9 & 10 = 1. Playable!

BETTING STRATEGY.
Back a playable qualifying number for UP TO 9 spins NOT counting spins where zero shows.
Of course zero itself can qualify to be playable.
Bet one unit on the first to the sixth playable spin and two units on the seventh to the ninth playable spin.
If the string of nine bets all fail to achieve a win stop betting that number immediately.
Stop backing that number immediately a bet wins, that is the hot number shows for the fourth time.
As soon as one such playable hot number bet has won stop that playing session at that wheel, even if it was your first bet. No more bets that day at that wheel.
Should three successive playable strings each of nine bets all lose stop that playing session at that wheel.
If you have lost two strings of nine bets and are playing a third when a second number qualifies as playable DON'T commence betting on it. Either you win your currently active string and walk or you walk away after losing three consecutive strings of nine anyway.

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Why do I suggest this method of play. Because I know a few professional card players who when they are forced to play a bit of roulette to keep casino management sweet will ONLY play this way.

VLS

Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 26, 04:20 PM 2010
So Victor- how do you eat your creme Egg? ?

I'd use my development version of the tool my friend; give it a shot on the RNG. As long as the numerical distribution is somewhat "normal" it should do fine.

For land-based I would take my acrylic roulette disc and play for the continuation of the events I see consistently realized.

Would prefer a fair live wheel online though.

Cheers!
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chrisbis

There was a deliberate error in my cals, no one spotted it except me- fewhh, good job eh!
Here's the correction, much softer on the BR.
Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 26, 05:28 PM 2010
Thanx for that Proof.

I myself, given its a new casino, new RNG to me, might just try to force the Zero.

1 Chips on Red
1 Chips on Black
2 Chip on Zero

That would be my first (very first bet)

Then say Number #28 spun for the first result- my second bet would be:-

1 Chips on Red
1 Chips on Black
1 Chip on Zero
1 Chip   on #28

Then after that, each bet would be the same, except I'd change the "Floating" number bet
to the next number spun, and chase each subsequent number around the table.

I'm obviously looking for repeaters here, plus my arse is covered on the Zero.

As soon as Zero hits, I'd drop the Red Black "piston" (is a metaphor for using the Red & Black bet to force the zero to show its Ugly head)

Thereafter (hoping the BR is still hold) I'll put more numbers on the last spun numbers till im covering at least nine numbers.

If I get anywhere near $100 BR, then I'd consider switching to s range of plays from the following systems:-
F LAT INO CWB..............using Ophis tracker.
Twisteruk 24
PPPC bet- which I understand to be mirage of Low + 3rd DOZEN / High + 1St DOZEN
Drogansons 6 Slits To Win.
One of Kattila many ideas
Albalaha- repeaters from last 18 bet
And others.......................................

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