Clockwise Dozens

[GLC]

I've been tinkering around with this system for a while and as crazy as it seems, it's holding it's own.

It's a little hard to explain, but extremely easy to play once understood and very effective.

It's kind of a positive progression bet method so it's not so volatile as a negative progression system.

We will be betting on 1 dozen at times and on 2 dozens at times.  These are our only two bets.

We first bet 1 unit on the last dozen to hit.  If we win, we keep betting 1 unit on this dozen until it loses.

Once it loses, no matter what dozen hit, we bet 1 unit on the same dozen we had been betting on and 1 unit on the dozen to the right of it.  If we were betting on the 2nd dozen and lost, we would bet the same number of units on the 2nd dozen and the 3rd dozen.  If we were betting on the 3rd dozen, we would bet on the 3rd dozen and the 1st dozen.

If our first bet loses, we immediately go to betting that same dozen and the dozen to the right of it.  If we lose a bet on 2 dozens, we leave our units bet the same but we move one dozen to the right for both bets.  In other words, if we were betting on the 2nd dozen and it lost, we would bet on the 2nd and 3rd dozens and if they lost, we would move to the 3rd and 1st dozen at the same unit bet.  If we lose again, we move again 1 dozen to the right on both dozens and bet again the same amount.  We repeat this procedure until we win.  When we win, we are going to bet on the dozen that just won only.  We will bet the same unit size if a win will put us even or ahead of our high bank amount.  If the same bet size will leave us under even, we must add 1 unit to the bet.  We still are only betting the last dozen to hit.

So.  If we were betting 1 unit on the 2nd and 3rd dozens and the 2nd dozen wins,  if we are down 2 units or less, we will continue to bet 1 unit on the 2nd dozen only.  If we are down more than 2 units, we must add 1 unit to our bet and bet 2 units on the 2nd dozen only.  If it wins and puts us even or above, we go back to 1 unit on the 2nd dozen. 

Now, if we are betting 2 units on the 2nd dozen and it loses, we will place 2 units on the 2nd dozen and 2 units on the 3rd dozen.  If this bet loses we will move 1 dozen to the right for both dozens and continue to bet 2 units on each dozen.  We continue in this manner until we reach our win target or our stop loss.

So we bet on 1 dozen on our first bet and on every bet immediately after a win.  If the current bet amount will net us enough units to be even or ahead, we stay at 1 unit or return to 1 unit.  If a win with the current bet amount still leaves us behind, we must increase our bet amount by 1 unit and 1 unit only.  We can only raise our bet amount after a win, and anytime we win, our next bet is on a single dozen, not two dozens.

Anytime we win, we don't move to the right, we stay on the dozen that just won for our next bet.  Anytime we lose, whether we are betting on a single dozen or on a double dozen, we will be betting on 2 dozens the next bet and until we finally win.  We never raise our bet after a loss, only after a win.  We stay at the current bet level until we win no matter how many times we have lost.

This is very simple.  If you read through it a few times and play a few spins off some historical spins, you should be able to understand it.

I will post a short session tomorrow so you can see exactly how it's played.  It's too late to do it tonight.

G

[chrisbis]

@GLC

What point is that, when U would stop George?

We continue in this manner until we reach our win target or our stop loss.

Cause since testing some many systems now, that require a marked degree of progression,
when either something goes to sleep, or as is more likely,
the result Ur after, keeps one step in front of U
(as if the damn thing knows what Ur doing!)
- then the inevitable death kiss of the dizzy progression heights will surly knock this baby on the head, rather like 'em all!!

Excellent MM required, tho one would have needed to 'Banked' quite a bit, to overcome that reset point, when U hit Ur SL.

superman had a very similar bot playing a variant of this Dozens "Chase-Me!!" game,
and for a while it looked good, but as sure as eggs are eggs, the curse of progression stop us beating it in the end.

Sorry G. It is after all, tho, just my opinion. x

[Droganson]

This being a positive progression system it's a flat bet lose and only raise when you win kind of thing. Looks extremely promising to me. I will test it tomorrow and post my results. Thanks for the system, GLC.

[GLC]

Chris,  I can't defend it right now.  It was late when I posted it last night so I forgot to suggest a win target and stop-loss.

I recommend stop-loss of 100 units and win target of 50.

Since this is a positive progression, very much like a pluscoup for the dozens, I have to think it may be a little better.  Testing will tell.  

Listen.  If you place a bet and there are numbers that can hurt you, there's always a chance they will come up.  There's always a chance a lot of them can come up close together and hurt you a lot.  There's always a chance a very long string of them can come up and crush you.  Show me a system where the above doesn't apply please.

I admit that this isn't the way our friend Brett Morton plays, but he's not trying to invent every possible way to choose and bet every location on the roulette table.  But even the way he plays has those days when the numbers that can hurt him come out often enough to hurt him.

Attached is a short session of the most recent permutation so you can see how to play it.

[Droganson]

Just had a revelation so I will have to postpone testing this method until the day after tomorrow. I like to test things thoroughly as soon as I think of them. It definitely won't be a HG but it might be darn close...hopefully!

[GLC]

Here's an analysis of this system based on minimal testing.  We are looking for repeats to put us ahead.   It may not be any better than just betting on a the last dozen to hit for a repeat.  One problem I noticed is that sometimes you miss a dozen that repeats because you are betting on the other two.

It does tend to give you more opportunities to hit a repeat dozen because when you lose a single dozen bet, and win the next double dozen bet, it is a wash and puts you back to even and trying for a repeat dozen.

I'm thinking of testing it with the tweak of always betting on the last dozen to hit for the single dozen and on the last dozen to hit plus one of the other ones on the double dozen.  One of my favorite 24 number bets is on the last 2 dozens to hit because this keeps you betting on the trending dozen(s).

At Chris, don't you hate being right all the time.  In my last test I was down 74 and betting 12 on 2 dozens.  I'd say that was knocking on my loss limit.  Fortunately I won that spin and recovered back to even in the next 11 spins.  Wheee.  Close one.  Oh, I forgot.  Play money.

I think I'll check out Superman's "Chase Me" system.  It may have the key I'm looking for.

Cheers,

George

[chrisbis]

Chris,  I can't defend it right now.  It was late when I posted it last night so I forgot to suggest a win target and stop-loss.

I recommend stop-loss of 100 units and win target of 50.

Since this is a positive progression, very much like a pluscoup for the dozens, I have to think it may be a little better.  Testing will tell.

Listen.  If you place a bet and there are numbers that can hurt you, there's always a chance they will come up.  There's always a chance a lot of them can come up close together and hurt you a lot.  There's always a chance a very long string of them can come up and crush you.  Show me a system where the above doesn't apply please.

I admit that this isn't the way our friend Brett Morton plays, but he's not trying to invent every possible way to choose and bet every location on the roulette table.  But even the way he plays has those days when the numbers that can hurt him come out often enough to hurt him.

I listen to U all the time George.

Attached is a short session of the most recent permutation so you can see how to play it.

Beautiful notation buddie, very neat, precise, concise and easy to follow.

At Chris, don't you hate being right all the time.  In my last test I was down 74 and betting 12 on 2 dozens.  I'd say that was knocking on my loss limit.

George, for years my mother told me I was a medium.....................................

[reveal=The Truth]But I just checked in my underpants, and it says 'Extra Large'......!!!![/reveal]

I think I'll check out Superman's "Chase Me" system.  It may have the key I'm looking for.

For the time being, the Chase me, or 3 Dozen Wave formulation, is very much on the back burner, so await news on that one George.

I blame my father.....but he's started to get things incorrect now and again G, so there's hope for me yet!