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Testing Rules for the MATRIX 50 TRACKER

Started by chrisbis, Feb 05, 09:55 AM 2011

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chrisbis

Set out the Dozen results in a matrix formate.

5 individual columns x 50 rows deep, plus several rows for tracking.

Like thus.
L= LOW DOZEN, M= MIDDLE DOZEN, H=HIGH DOZEN, Z=ZERO, *=WINNING
[table=,]
Tracking All Dozens,O n e,T w o,Three,Four,Five,Trigger notes
1,L,H,L,L,H,
2,L,H,L,L,L,
3,M,L,H,L,L,
4,H,H,Z,L,M,
5,L,M,M,L,H,
6,H,H,M,M,M,
7,H,H,H,M,H,
TRIGGER LINE,M,Z,L,H,L,-NO REPEAT ON PREVIOUS.(Z counted as H (line above))
Play on trigger, L,M,H,L,L*, WIN ON LAST BET
2ND Play, L*,M*,M,H,H, -WIN ON 1ST & 2ND BET
3RD Play,H,L,M*,L,M, -WIN ON 3RD BET
4TH Play,M,M,M*,M,L, -WIN ON 3RD BET
5TH Play,H,L,M*,H,M, -WIN ON  3RD BET
6TH Play,L,H,L,M,H, -NO WINS
[/table]

STAKING.
3 levels of staking.

1= 1 units per bet selection.
2= 2 units per bet selection.
3= 4 units per bet selection.


Track till all five (5) of the Dozen results have no repeat on the previous five(5) results.

When all five(5) results are unique compared to previous, then this is the trigger point.

On trigger, bet next line by following the results, and bet on THAT dozen that appeared above.



Rules copied from Matrix 50 The One postings- re Phase2/Johnlegend.

Quote
Always commence at level 2 staking. Remember we are entering play after a 5 spin losing run, with the average losing streak being 6 spins things are in our favour. And you will more than likely win one of the next two spins with a match. A win at level two is the equivalent of four losses at level one (starting to see the power?)

(08) IF I WIN IN THE FIRST TWO SPINS, SPIN 6 OR 7 OF THE SESSION. I IMMEDIATELY drop down to level one stakes. The idea is to protect your profits. By doing this EVEN a  game that would be in the negative at level stakes can and usually does result in a small profit.

(09) I continue to bet at level one stakes until I either WIN FOUR IN A ROW OR LOSE 4 IN A ROW. If I lose four. What you will typically get after a losing streak of say 8 consecutive spins is a cluster of wins. You want to be taking full advantage of this.

(10) Gold top stop point. If at any point in the session I am 10 points up I personally STOP the session, and from that point I simply record the remainder for my records...


Zero on the Trigger sequence has to be READ
as the dozen result just above it, for betting purposes.

In the 1ST half of play, 5 trigger spins + 45 actual bet spins, then the target is +10units
in the 2ND half of play, 5 trigger spins + 45 actual bet spins, then the target is ? ? TBD


chrisbis

Could:-
Johnlegend,
Atlantis,
sekuritati,
Twisteruk,
Buffalowizard,
vundarosa,
all all other contributors,
add there take on these rules,
so we can ABSOLUTE ABOUT THEM.

There are ppl on the Forum, capable of making all sorts of devises to help us keep track of tese results, and possibly combine the play mm=with Columns too.


Please contribute.  :thumbsup:

sekuritati

I can add my contribution which is to wait after the trigger to get another row of misses or 1 win at most, then commense betting at Level 2 as per the rules.

In your example there chris, with my tweak

H   H   H   M   H   
M   Z   L   H   L   -NO REPEAT ON PREVIOUS.(Z counted as H (line above))
L   M   H   L   L*    WIN ON LAST BET we dont bet this line and get 1 win and we start betting on the next line at level 2
L*   M*   M   H   H here it is perfect, first win at Level 2 resulted in +4, then revert back to level 1 stakes to preserve profits for another win of +2 units. Gold top stop point with +6 profit, one could not ask for a better outcome :)

Twisteruk

Quote from: sekuritati on Feb 05, 10:24 AM 2011
I can add my contribution which is to wait after the trigger to get another row of misses or 1 win at most, then commense betting at Level 2 as per the rules.

In your example there chris, with my tweak

H   H   H   M   H   
M   Z   L   H   L   -NO REPEAT ON PREVIOUS.(Z counted as H (line above))
L   M   H   L   L*    WIN ON LAST BET we don't bet this line and get 1 win and we start betting on the next line at level 2
L*   M*   M   H   H here it is perfect, first win at Level 2 resulted in +4, then revert back to level 1 stakes to preserve profits for another win of +2 units. Gold top stop point with +6 profit, one could not ask for a better outcome :)

I like it  :thumbsup:

If in the First line, after the 5 misses, you have 2 or more hits do you start over with your tracking ?
Its Set In Stone =)

sekuritati

Yes, discard the current tracking. Anyway, Johnlegend gave more clarifications in the thread, they must be presented in Chris' post. Especially that one with the 2 up 4 down which is quite important

sekuritati

Also something very important

We record spins until wen have 5 non. Matches to the previous 5. They don't have to be one line under another just 5 spins that don't match the previous 5.

This is very important as me personally was tracking for 30-40 spins to get a trigger, but if I watched the line of outcomes as a moving line I am sure I would cut the waiting time for trigger in half. It must be put inside the eventual tracker program, which I have to say would be indeed very useful

Twisteruk

Quote from: sekuritati on Feb 05, 10:45 AM 2011
Also something very important

We record spins until wen have 5 non. Matches to the previous 5. They don't have to be one line under another just 5 spins that don't match the previous 5.

This is very important as me personally was tracking for 30-40 spins to get a trigger, but if I watched the line of outcomes as a moving line I am sure I would cut the waiting time for trigger in half. It must be put inside the eventual tracker program, which I have to say would be indeed very useful



Yes agreed.

Also those 5 misses become the First Line.
Its Set In Stone =)

chrisbis

Quote from: sekuritati on Feb 05, 10:24 AM 2011
I can add my contribution which is to wait after the trigger to get another row of misses or 1 win at most, then commense betting at Level 2 as per the rules.

In your example there chris, with my tweak

H   H   H   M   H   
M   Z   L   H   L   -NO REPEAT ON PREVIOUS.(Z counted as H (line above))
L   M   H   L   L*    WIN ON LAST BET we dont bet this line and get 1 win and we start betting on the next line at level 2
L*   M*   M   H   H here it is perfect, first win at Level 2 resulted in +4, then revert back to level 1 stakes to preserve profits for another win of +2 units. Gold top stop point with +6 profit, one could not ask for a better outcome :)

Notice, Ur also dropping back to level 1 after the first win, would this happen, only after the first win occurs in the 1st bet?

I can see that Ur "Honing" this baby down to a fine finish- and I like it!!

sekuritati

No, you bet at level 2 for the first 2 bets. If they did not won, you go to level 1 stakes for 4 losses in a row, then you increase to level 2 stakes - here i am lost, do you play level 2 for further 4 losses in a row, then increase to level 3 stakes for further 4 losses in a row

For instance, such thing would happen with that 19 spin losing run twister provided...

we need to learn about damage limitation

chrisbis

Quote from: sekuritati on Feb 05, 10:59 AM 2011
No, you bet at level 2 for the first 2 bets. If they did not won, you go to level 1 stakes for 4 losses in a row, then you increase to level 2 stakes - here i am lost, do you play level 2 for further 4 losses in a row, then increase to level 3 stakes for further 4 losses in a row

For instance, such thing would happen with that 19 spin losing run twister provided...

we need to learn about damage limitation

I got mixed up with what U meant [reveal=here] here it is perfect, first win at Level 2 resulted in +4, then revert back to level 1 stakes to preserve profits for another win of +2 units. Gold top stop point with +6 profit, one could not ask for a better [/reveal]

(it seemed like U changed after the FIRST LEVEL 2 BET. But I think I understand now)

Yep, re damage, plus need better MM on this one,
possible, inclusion of added levels,
as the shite hits the fan so2speak.

[reveal=Shite]Trouble at Mill
Losing.
Losing a Lot.
Lost Ur Shirt.[/reveal]

chrisbis

What's the talk about "Playing Vertical"?

We are "Playing" vertical as it is are we not?

The essenence of the MATRIX 50 routine, is to LOOK up
above the line U have just entered to compare results.

All the play is looking for repeats, ie, What's vertically above, so I'm struggling to see the ADDITIONAL data, for "Playing" vertically, when all the info is there anyhow, to use and abuse!

The best data one could have would be this:-

A,A,A,A,A- FIRST LINE RESULTS- WHAT A LINE EH!
B,B,B,B,B-  UNIQUE TRIGGER (5 STRAIGHT LINE LOSES)
B,B,B,B,B-  FIVE WINS IN A ROW
C,C,C,C,B- FOUR LOSES IN A ROW, 1 LAST MINUTE WIN (raise to level 2 again)
C,C,C,C,A- FOUR WINS IN A ROW, 1 LOSS.

Please help me understand, how would I play this vertically any differently?

Twisteruk

Its really JUST playing Vertically on DOUBLES aiming to hit a Treble

In my 100 spins I had 23 doubles

Of those, 11 stayed doubles and the bet lost

The remaining 12 all went on to form a Treble, a 52% strike rate


Hope that clarifies it for you mate   ;D


Its Set In Stone =)

chrisbis

Do U mean to say U would only then focus on the Doubles,
looking for a forthcoming Triple, and NOT bet every spin, as in the M50?

U would wait in am ambush position,
till the spin was just about to arrive under the Double already registered, and then bet??








(Edit...................I get It now Paul, thanks or the VERTICAL CLARITY!!!!!
Clear Blue (Or Maroon in this case)- THINKING EH!..........
)

Twisteruk

Quote from: chrisbis on Feb 05, 03:07 PM 2011
Do you mean to say you would only then focus on the Doubles,
looking for a forthcoming Triple, and NOT bet every spin, as in the M50?

U would wait in am ambush position,
till the spin was just about to arrive under the Double already registered, and then bet??


Yes is the simple answer.


I prefer it as ure not betting on every spin


When you see something like the following

1 1 2 3 1
2 1 1 2 3


You are going to be betting on column 2 or bet 2 of the 3rd row, and so on.



Try it, you might like it  ;D



Its Set In Stone =)

chrisbis

Whilst I was just eating my evening meal,
I began theorising over a staking plan for Triple/Quads/Quintuplets.......playing!


When one has seen a double appear, and,
on the next line, (maybe after suffering a couple of losses on the previous),
U decide to "Wait" for the Tripling to arrive,
U chose not to bet anything, other than THAT dozen bet, that's sitting under the existing Double.

So, in theory, Ur POTENTIAL bet total (max stake) available to spend, could be:-

1. at best 10 units (see below)
2. at worst 6 units(see below)

10 units comes from the MOST one could "Spend" in any given line.

Its the best outcome if winning.
Its a Level 2, Level 2, Level 2, Level 2, Level 2 = 10 units.
(Beginning bet,  Five wins in a row at level 2)

6 units is the minimum spend on any FULL Matrix 50 line.
Its a level1, Level 1, Level 1, Level 1, Level 2 = 6 units.
(Four loses in a row, then Up to level 2)

I hope everyone follows me so far.  ::)

If U lost all 5 bets on the M50, then the most U could lose in the sequence, is 6 units.

So, armed with this knowledge, could U therefore say,
that in Vertical Triple/Quad/Sep 'anticipation' play,
U could imagine a situation arising,
where there is only one bet to be made in 5 spins,
waiting, waiting, in ambush, ready to attempt to hit,
say a triple, and u COULD, spend (Risky I know) 6 or 10 units on the play!!

I don't know how to call this one,
or what to recommend,
maybe in the middle- 8, or the lowest- 6 units? ?
Knowing, U COULD  be no worse off, than a really bad run in the M50.

(sounds like a motorway journey from hell!!)

Ur thoughts please chaps!  

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