The 'eclipse method'

[flukey luke]

This is a bit of an offshoot from something I was working on recently.

The best way to explain it will be to go through it step by step using an example. Hopefully that will give you an idea as to what is going on.

The actual bet itself is a dozens bet. You will be betting on two six lines.

The six lines comprise of the following.

1-6 = 1.
7-12 = 2.
13-18 = 3.
19-24 = 4.
25-30 = 5.
31-36 = 6.

The progression for the bet is as follows.



1. bet 1 win 2 or lose 1.
2. bet 1 win 1 or lose 2.
3. bet 2 win 2 or lose 4.
4. bet 3 win 2 or lose 7.
5. bet 4 win 1 or lose 11.
6. bet 6 win 1 or lose 17.
7. bet 9 win 1 or lose 26.
8. bet 14 win 2 or lose 40.
9. bet 21 win 2 or lose 61.
10. bet 31 win 1 or lose 92.


So let's get started with the example.

36 is the first number out. What you need to do is keep a count of all the six lines and keep a rolling count of how many times they are missing.

So because 36 was the first number out, your count would look like this.

1 (1) 2 (1) 3 (1) 4 (1) 5 (1) 6 (0)

OK, let's move onto the next number.

35  You also need to check if the new six line that has just appeared is an alternate from the last one.
In this instance, it is not. So I like to mark it like this.

35 (N)  

How does the rolling count look now. 1(2) 2 (2) 3 (2) 4 (2) 5 (2) 6 (0)

next number.

22  Now this is an alternating six line. So I mark it like this.

22 (Y) (1) the 1 is another count to keep track on how many alternating six lines I am getting..

The rolling count now looks like this. 1 (3) 2 (3) 3 (3) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (1)

Next number.

16 (Y) (2)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (4) 3 (0) 4 (1) 5 (4) 6 (2)

Next number.

27 (Y) (3)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (5) 3 (1) 4 (2) 5 (0) 6 (3)

Next number.

28 (N) (0)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (6) 2 (6) 3 (2) 4 (3) 5 (0) 6 (4)

35 (Y) (1)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (7) 2 (7) 3 (3) 4 (4) 5 (1) 6 (0)

3 (Y) (2)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (8} 3 (4) 4 (5) 5 (2) 6 (1)

19 (Y) (3)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (9) 3 (5) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (2)

35 (Y) (4)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (10) 3 (6) 4 (1) 5 (4) 6 (0)

3 (Y) (5)        ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (11) 3 (7) 4 (2) 5 (5) 6 (1)

12 (Y) (6)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (0) 3 (8} 4 (3) 5 (6) 6 (2)

3 (Y) (7)         ROLLING COUNT. 1(0) 2 (1) 3 (9) 4 (4) 5 (7) 6 (3)

36 (Y) (8}      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (2) 3 (10) 4 (5) 5 (8} 6 (0)

Here is where you have the first bet. Once you see the current six line has alternated at least 8 times, that signals there could be a possible bet.
What you then need to do is go over to the rolling count and check for the furthest back six line.
Here it is the 3 which has missed 10 times. (The qualifying target for a possible bet  is 8+. If there are more than one with 8+, always play the one which has missed for the longest.)

So both qualifying targets have occurred.

How do you bet? I am going to bet for the current six line to repeat. (In this instance, it's the 6)
I am also going to bet for the longest missing six line in the rolling count to appear. (In this instance, it's the 3)

So betting the 6 six line and the 3 six line combines as a dozens bet. I am going to use the 10 step progression.

16 (Y) (9)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (3) 3 (0) 4 (6) 5 (9) 6 (1)

That was a winning bet on the 1st step of the progression. The missing 3 from the rolling count came in.

You will notice that there is also another bet straight away.  Why?

Because the six lines are still alternating (currently standing at 9 which qualifies for a bet and the 5 six line in the rolling count is also at 9. This also qualifies.

So now I am betting for a repeat on the 3 six line and also betting the 5 six line.

28 (Y) (10)          ROLLING COUNT. 1 (3) 2 (4) 3 (1) 4 (7) 5 (0) 6 (2)

That was a winning bet on the 1st step of the progression. The missing 5 from the rolling count came in.

There is now no bet on the next spin. There are no qualifiers in the rolling count.

8 (Y) (11)           ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (0) 3 (2) 4 (8} 5 (1) 6 (3)

There is a bet now because we have a qualifier in the rolling count.
I am looking for a repeat of the 2 six line and also playing the missing 4 six line.

25 (Y) (12)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (1) 3 (3) 4 (9) 5 (0) 6 (4)

That was a losing bet. I will now move up to step 2 in the progression and I am betting for a repeat 5 six line and the missing 4 six line.

6 (Y) (13)        ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (2) 3 (4) 4 (10) 5 (1) 6 (5)

That was another losing bet and I will now move up to step 3 in the progression. I am betting for a repeat 1 six line and the missing 4 six line.

7 (Y) (14)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (0) 3 (5) 4 (11) 5 (2) 6 (6)

That was another losing bet and I will now move up to step 4 in the progression. I am betting for a repeat 2 six line and the missing 4 six line.

22 (Y) (15)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (1) 3 (6) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (7)

A win there on the missing 4 six line.

There is no bet on the next spin.

27 (Y) (16)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (3) 2 (2) 3 (7) 4 (1) 5 (0) 6 (8}

There is a bet on the next spin. I am betting for a repeat on the 5 six line and also looking for the missing 6 six line.

20 (Y) (17)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (3) 3 (8} 4 (0) 5 (1) 6 (9)

That was a losing bet on step 1 of the progression.

I am betting again on the next spin and looking for a repeat of the 4 six line or the missing 6 six line.

31 (Y) (18)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (4) 3 (9) 4 (1) 5 (2) 6 (0)

A win there on the 2nd step of the progression.

There is another bet on the next spin. I am looking for a repeat of the 6 six line or the missing 3 six line.

25 (Y) (19)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (6) 2 (5) 3 (10) 4 (2) 5 (0) 6 (1)

That was a loss on the 1st step of the progression. I will be betting again looking for a repeat of the 5  six line or the missing 3 six line.

30 (N) (0)           ROLLING COUNT. 1 (7) 2 (6) 3 (11) 4 (3) 5 (0) 6 (2)

That was a win on the 2nd step of the progression. Finally the street repeated. (I just pulled this card out of one of my files and I have to say that is a lot of alternating six lines in succession. You will not see that happen very often. Still it shows the method working well.

There is no bet on the next spin and it will take a while now for one of the qualifying rules to work it's way back up to at least 8 again.

So there were 5 bets there in all never going past step 4 in the progression.

I personally think that this is a great little bet. You don't need a huge bankroll and the wins seem to come steady enough.

[F_LAT_INO]

This is a bit of an offshoot from something I was working on recently.

The best way to explain it will be to go through it step by step using an example. Hopefully that will give you an idea as to what is going on.

The actual bet itself is a dozens bet. You will be betting on two six lines.

The six lines comprise of the following.

1-6 = 1.
7-12 = 2.
13-18 = 3.
19-24 = 4.
25-30 = 5.
31-36 = 6.

The progression for the bet is as follows.

                                                            Shouldn't this be;

1. bet 1 win 2 or lose 1.                        1.bet 1 win 4 or lose 2
2. bet 1 win 1 or lose 2.                        2. bet 1 win 2 or lose 4
3. bet 2 win 2 or lose 4.                        .......and so on,or maybe didn't grasp it.
4. bet 3 win 2 or lose 7.
5. bet 4 win 1 or lose 11.
6. bet 6 win 1 or lose 17.
7. bet 9 win 1 or lose 26.
8. bet 14 win 2 or lose 40.
9. bet 21 win 2 or lose 61.
10. bet 31 win 1 or lose 92.


So let's get started with the example.

36 is the first number out. What you need to do is keep a count of all the six lines and keep a rolling count of how many times they are missing.

So because 36 was the first number out, your count would look like this.

1 (1) 2 (1) 3 (1) 4 (1) 5 (1) 6 (0)

OK, let's move onto the next number.

35  You also need to check if the new six line that has just appeared is an alternate from the last one.
In this instance, it is not. So I like to mark it like this.

35 (N)  

How does the rolling count look now. 1(2) 2 (2) 3 (2) 4 (2) 5 (2) 6 (0)

next number.

22  Now this is an alternating six line. So I mark it like this.

22 (Y) (1) the 1 is another count to keep track on how many alternating six lines I am getting..

The rolling count now looks like this. 1 (3) 2 (3) 3 (3) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (1)

Next number.

16 (Y) (2)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (4) 3 (0) 4 (1) 5 (4) 6 (2)

Next number.

27 (Y) (3)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (5) 3 (1) 4 (2) 5 (0) 6 (3)

Next number.

28 (N) (0)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (6) 2 (6) 3 (2) 4 (3) 5 (0) 6 (4)

35 (Y) (1)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (7) 2 (7) 3 (3) 4 (4) 5 (1) 6 (0)

3 (Y) (2)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (8} 3 (4) 4 (5) 5 (2) 6 (1)

19 (Y) (3)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (9) 3 (5) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (2)

35 (Y) (4)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (10) 3 (6) 4 (1) 5 (4) 6 (0)

3 (Y) (5)        ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (11) 3 (7) 4 (2) 5 (5) 6 (1)

12 (Y) (6)      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (0) 3 (8} 4 (3) 5 (6) 6 (2)

3 (Y) (7)         ROLLING COUNT. 1(0) 2 (1) 3 (9) 4 (4) 5 (7) 6 (3)

36 (Y) (8}      ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (2) 3 (10) 4 (5) 5 (8} 6 (0)

Here is where you have the first bet. Once you see the current six line has alternated at least 8 times, that signals there could be a possible bet.
What you then need to do is go over to the rolling count and check for the furthest back six line.
Here it is the 3 which has missed 10 times. (The qualifying target for a possible bet  is 8+. If there are more than one with 8+, always play the one which has missed for the longest.)

So both qualifying targets have occurred.

How do you bet? I am going to bet for the current six line to repeat. (In this instance, it's the 6)
I am also going to bet for the longest missing six line in the rolling count to appear. (In this instance, it's the 3)

So betting the 6 six line and the 3 six line combines as a dozens bet. I am going to use the 10 step progression.

16 (Y) (9)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (3) 3 (0) 4 (6) 5 (9) 6 (1)

That was a winning bet on the 1st step of the progression. The missing 3 from the rolling count came in.

You will notice that there is also another bet straight away.  Why?

Because the six lines are still alternating (currently standing at 9 which qualifies for a bet and the 5 six line in the rolling count is also at 9. This also qualifies.

So now I am betting for a repeat on the 3 six line and also betting the 5 six line.

28 (Y) (10)          ROLLING COUNT. 1 (3) 2 (4) 3 (1) 4 (7) 5 (0) 6 (2)

That was a winning bet on the 1st step of the progression. The missing 5 from the rolling count came in.

There is now no bet on the next spin. There are no qualifiers in the rolling count.

8 (Y) (11)           ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (0) 3 (2) 4 (8} 5 (1) 6 (3)

There is a bet now because we have a qualifier in the rolling count.
I am looking for a repeat of the 2 six line and also playing the missing 4 six line.

25 (Y) (12)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (1) 3 (3) 4 (9) 5 (0) 6 (4)

That was a losing bet. I will now move up to step 2 in the progression and I am betting for a repeat 5 six line and the missing 4 six line.

6 (Y) (13)        ROLLING COUNT. 1 (0) 2 (2) 3 (4) 4 (10) 5 (1) 6 (5)

That was another losing bet and I will now move up to step 3 in the progression. I am betting for a repeat 1 six line and the missing 4 six line.

7 (Y) (14)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (1) 2 (0) 3 (5) 4 (11) 5 (2) 6 (6)

That was another losing bet and I will now move up to step 4 in the progression. I am betting for a repeat 2 six line and the missing 4 six line.

22 (Y) (15)       ROLLING COUNT. 1 (2) 2 (1) 3 (6) 4 (0) 5 (3) 6 (7)

A win there on the missing 4 six line.

There is no bet on the next spin.

27 (Y) (16)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (3) 2 (2) 3 (7) 4 (1) 5 (0) 6 (8}

There is a bet on the next spin. I am betting for a repeat on the 5 six line and also looking for the missing 6 six line.

20 (Y) (17)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (4) 2 (3) 3 (8} 4 (0) 5 (1) 6 (9)

That was a losing bet on step 1 of the progression.

I am betting again on the next spin and looking for a repeat of the 4 six line or the missing 6 six line.

31 (Y) (18)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (5) 2 (4) 3 (9) 4 (1) 5 (2) 6 (0)

A win there on the 2nd step of the progression.

There is another bet on the next spin. I am looking for a repeat of the 6 six line or the missing 3 six line.

25 (Y) (19)         ROLLING COUNT. 1 (6) 2 (5) 3 (10) 4 (2) 5 (0) 6 (1)

That was a loss on the 1st step of the progression. I will be betting again looking for a repeat of the 5  six line or the missing 3 six line.

30 (N) (0)           ROLLING COUNT. 1 (7) 2 (6) 3 (11) 4 (3) 5 (0) 6 (2)

That was a win on the 2nd step of the progression. Finally the street repeated. (I just pulled this card out of one of my files and I have to say that is a lot of alternating six lines in succession. You will not see that happen very often. Still it shows the method working well.

There is no bet on the next spin and it will take a while now for one of the qualifying rules to work it's way back up to at least 8 again.

So there were 5 bets there in all never going past step 4 in the progression.

I personally think that this is a great little bet. You don't need a huge bankroll and the wins seem to come steady enough.

[flukey luke]

Sorry F_LAT_INO.

I copy and pasted the progression from something else I was working on 

You are right.

1st bet.  bet 2 (1 unit on each six line) win +4  /  lose -2.  etc....

I will do another progression chart.

[F_LAT_INO]

And by the way it is a very cleaver idea which tried
couple years back,and I track it much simpler;

5-line
3
3..erase above 3
4
2
4..erase above 4
6
1...now we have 6 lines looking thisway;

5
3
4
2
6
1...but do we bet now the furthest one and the last/recent/one??ofcourse NO.
    In my book other lines should alternate at least 12 spins before you get the
    trigger to bet furthest and last one.This is one of the bets in my arsenal which
    I often play.Just a thought.

[flukey luke]

ok, revised progression chart, lol.

Step 1.   bet 2 (1 on each six line) win +4  /  lose -2.
Step 2.   bet 2 (1 on each six line) win +2  /  lose -4.
Step 3.   bet 4 (2 on each six line) win +4  /  lose -8.
Step 4.   bet 6 (3 on each six line) win +4  /  lose -14.
Step 5.   bet 8 (4 on each six line) win +2  /  lose -22.
Step 6.   bet 12 (6 on each six line) win +2  /  lose -34.
Step 7.   bet 18 (9 on each six line) win +2  /  lose -52.
Step 8.   bet 28 (14 on each six line) win +4  /  lose -80.
Step 9.   bet 42  (21 on each six line) win +4 /  lose -122.
Step 10. bet 62  (31 on each six line) win +2 /  lose -184.

[flukey luke]

What I noticed was that it is unusual a lot of the time to have 8 alternating six lines in succession. Then I thought if one of the six lines is also absent for a long time, it then means you only have 5 which must keep alternating for 18 times to bust the 10 step progression.
I have not seen that in any of my files. Of course it is out there waiting to happen some time. But I am impressed with my results so far.

[F_LAT_INO]

What I noticed was that it is unusual a lot of the time to have 8 alternating six lines in succession. Then I thought if one of the six lines is also absent for a long time, it then means you only have 5 which must keep alternating for 18 times to bust the 10 step progression.
I have not seen that in any of my files. Of course it is out there waiting to happen some time. But I am impressed with my results so far.

And ofcourse you are always betting on a new last/recent/that have spun??

I have seen it mate/playing for real/and that bet could win for long tima but when it
falls it is for large amount.

[flukey luke]

Yes, I suppose that's true and I never really thought of it like that. Because of only seeing the 5 alternating six lines for a period before betting, I will be betting on some of the hot six lines. So in some way, it does play hot / cold together.

That makes me feel more confident than before. cheers  

I am not really a huge fan of progressions, but I suppose the trick is to find something that can give you a long winning run before the 'taxman' comes calling.

[F_LAT_INO]

Yes, I suppose that's true and I never really thought of it like that. Because of only seeing the 5 alternating six lines for a period before betting, I will be betting on some of the hot six lines. So in some way, it does play hot / cold together.

That makes me feel more confident than before. cheers  

I am not really a huge fan of progressions, but I suppose the trick is to find something that can give you a long winning run before the 'taxman' comes calling.
Try                 Last decision             opposite            penultimate

RANDON versus RANDOM....you might find it very interesting 1+----1-whenever in plus 1 or
more retrack 3 spins virtual then continue again....aim 15-20 units.
And tell me the score.

[flukey luke]

I will try that mate and let you know how I get on. cheers.

[flukey luke]

Just as an example, I was downloading the numbers as they came out from the Spielbank-Wiesbaden Casino in Germany this afternoon.

The first two bets were both winners on the first step of the progression.

4
19 (Y) (1)    R/C. 1 (1) 2 (1) 3 (1) 4 (0) 5 (1) 6 (1)
28 (Y) (2)    R/C. 1 (2) 2 (2) 3 (2) 4 (1) 5 (0) 6 (2)
18 (Y) (3)    R/C. 1 (3) 2 (3) 3 (0) 4 (2) 5 (1) 6 (3)
09 (Y) (4)    R/C. 1 (4) 2 (0) 3 (1) 4 (3) 5 (2) 6 (4)
09 (N) (0)    R/C. 1 (5) 2 (0) 3 (2) 4 (4) 5 (3) 6 (5)
29 (Y) (1)    R/C. 1 (6) 2 (1) 3 (3) 4 (5) 5 (0) 6 (6)
13 (Y) (2)    R/C. 1 (7) 2 (2) 3 (0) 4 (6) 5 (1) 6 (7)
02 (Y) (3)    R/C. 1 (0) 2 (3) 3 (1) 4 (7) 5 (2) 6 (8}
36 (Y) (4)    R/C. 1 (1) 2 (4) 3 (2) 4 (8} 5 (3) 6 (0)
18 (Y) (5)    R/C. 1 (2) 2 (5) 3 (0) 4 (9) 5 (4) 6 (1)
18 (N) (0)    R/C. 1 (3) 2 (6) 3 (0) 4 (10) 5 (5) 6 (2)
34 (Y) (1)    R/C. 1 (4) 2 (7) 3 (1) 4 (11) 5 (6) 6 (0)
23 (Y) (2)    R/C. 1 (5) 2 (8} 3 (2) 4 (0) 5 (7) 6 (1)
14 (Y) (3)    R/C. 1 (6) 2 (9) 3 (0) 4 (1) 5 (8} 6 (2)
20 (Y) (4)    R/C. 1 (7) 2 (10) 3 (1) 4 (0) 5 (9) 6 (3)
27 (Y) (5)    R/C. 1 (8} 2 (11) 3 (2) 4 (1) 5 (0) 6 (4)
10 (Y) (6)    R/C. 1 (9) 2 (0) 3 (3) 4 (2) 5 (1) 6 (5)
28 (Y) (7)    R/C. 1 (10) 2 (1) 3 (4) 4 (3) 5 (0) 6 (6)
15 (Y) (8}    R/C. 1 (11) 2 (2) 3 (0) 4 (4) 5 (1) 6 (7)  BET ON 3+1. WIN.
01 (Y) (9)    R/C. 1 (0) 2 (3) 3 (1) 4 (5) 5 (2) 6 (8}  BET ON 1+6.  WIN.
35 (Y) (10)  R/C. 1 (1) 2 (4) 3 (2) 4 (6) 5 (3) 6 (0)

[F_LAT_INO]

6-OPP. IS ALWAYS THE FURTHEST ONE
2-PENUL.
3-LD                  OPP.          LD.            PENU.
4-L                      1-            1-                1-                  3-
5-L                      2-            2-                2-                  9-
4-W                    3-            3-                15+               0-
1                        4-            4-                 2-                 10-
6                        25+         5-                 3-                  7+...RETRACK 3 SPINS VIRTUAL
4
1
6

BTW.....YOU START BETTING AFTER YOU HAVE THE FURTHEST ONE OUT OF 12

4
2
5
1
6
6
2
5
4
2
6
5...AND HERE YOU START BETTING,WHEN IN PLUS SAME PROCEDURE.

[F_LAT_INO]

And there is onev more version of the same bet/which didn't have time to test as yet/
betting always on 3 last events so you have a perfect control of it and wouldn't be scare
of furthest one/which sometimes goes over 25.30 spins/

4
2
6...no betting until all 6 appear
4
6
2
1
5
3.......now LD=3------PENULT.=5-----FURTHEST=1
6                1-               1-                    1-          3-
2                2-               2-                    2-          9-
6                3-              15+                  3-          0-ABOVE 6 ERASE
3                4-               2-                   20+       14+ RETRACK 3 SPINS

[F_LAT_INO]

Yes, I suppose that's true and I never really thought of it like that. Because of only seeing the 5 alternating six lines for a period before betting, I will be betting on some of the hot six lines. So in some way, it does play hot / cold together.

That makes me feel more confident than before. cheers  

I am not really a huge fan of progressions, but I suppose the trick is to find something that can give you a long winning run before the 'taxman' come.

Thre are other tweaks also.