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Started by ego, Mar 13, 05:39 AM 2011

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ego


I just waste my time with this as I enjoy it.
This topic is based upon gamblers fallacy and I don't use roulette systems.
But that does not prevent me from having fun and I regard this topic as the experiment.


The topic as follows is clear to understand with out being fuzzy.
It is about flat betting and gain at least +1 unit during any sample of 300 trails from random org.

Every march and selection will be described with every file to download to verify the results - good as bad.
I skip the math and probability during this topic.

Enjoy ...

31 placed bets 14 won 7 even ( 1 loss = -1 )

X = no selection

4 attempts to gain +1 unit

RESULT :

20110313 random org 300 trails

+1
+0
+0
+0
+0

20110312 random org 300 trails

+1
+1
+1

20110311 random org 300 trails

+1
+0

20110310 random org 300 trails

+1

20110309 random org 300 trails

+1
+1
+1

20110308 random org 300 trails

X

20110307 random org 300 trails

+1

20110306 random org 300 trails

+1
+0

20110305 random org 300 trails

+1
+1

20110304 random org 300 trails

-1
+0
+1

The experiment is about to capture tiny waves of correction.
I don't claim it works as it is based upon gamblers fallacy.


The March.

1) When two series chop then you play once - if a win you are +1 and end of session.
If a loss you play after first series appear and play once - if a win you are break even and end of session.

2) When two series appear with one isolated singel between them you play once after next singel appear to get same formation - if a win you are +1 and end of session.
If a loss you play after next singels appears and play once ( to capture previos formation ) if a win you are break even and end of session.

3) You play 1 and 2 above and accept any loss towards -4 units ( if -1 -2 -3 -4 you just end session ).

Selection.

You wait for at least two series of singels to chop after each other ( they can come in any length ) and with only one series present between them.
You let the sequence grow to any extant and just wait for the formation described in the march before you make any bets.

Trending.

Next we will make one attempt trending and see if that would change the results to aim for strike distribution.

Additional rule.
4) After first win with +1 we are allow to try to capture waves until break even +0.

20110313 - 20110304 random org

+0
+1
+8
+0
+2
+0
+0
+0
+0
+1
+5
+0
+1
+0

won +18 loss -1 even :8
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

RP

Hi ego, promising results so far. . . I will take a closer look at your method.

The power of just +1 unit per day is often forgotten, however if you started of with a bank roll of, say 100 units (your first bet on day one being 1 unit) and you won just 1% of your bank roll every day, after just over 2 1/2 years you would have 1million.  This is of course assuming you could find casinos with high enough table limits! Its a great illustration though of how powerful just 1% can be!

I wish you luck

Johnlegend

Quote from: ego on Mar 13, 05:39 AM 2011
I just waste my time with this as I enjoy it.
This topic is based upon gamblers fallacy and I don't use roulette systems.
But that does not prevent me from having fun and I regard this topic as the experiment.


The topic as follows is clear to understand with out being fuzzy.
It is about flat betting and gain at least +1 unit during any sample of 300 trails from random org.

Every march and selection will be described with every file to download to verify the results - good as bad.
I skip the math and probability during this topic.

Enjoy ...

31 placed bets 14 won 7 even ( 1 loss = -1 )

X = no selection

4 attempts to gain +1 unit

RESULT :

20110313 random org 300 trails

+1
+0
+0
+0
+0

20110312 random org 300 trails

+1
+1
+1

20110311 random org 300 trails

+1
+0

20110310 random org 300 trails

+1

20110309 random org 300 trails

+1
+1
+1

20110308 random org 300 trails

X

20110307 random org 300 trails

+1

20110306 random org 300 trails

+1
+0

20110305 random org 300 trails

+1
+1

20110304 random org 300 trails

-1
+0
+1

The experiment is about to capture tiny waves of correction.
I don't claim it works as it is based upon gamblers fallacy.


The March.

1) When two series chop then you play once - if a win you are +1 and end of session.
If a loss you play after first series appear and play once - if a win you are break even and end of session.

2) When two series appear with one isolated single between them you play once after next single appear to get same formation - if a win you are +1 and end of session.
If a loss you play after next singels appears and play once ( to capture previos formation ) if a win you are break even and end of session.

3) You play 1 and 2 above and accept any loss towards -4 units ( if -1 -2 -3 -4 you just end session ).

Selection.

You wait for at least two series of singels to chop after each other ( they can come in any length ) and with only one series present between them.
You let the sequence grow to any extant and just wait for the formation described in the march before you make any bets.

Trending.

Next we will make one attempt trending and see if that would change the results to aim for strike distribution.

Additional rule.
4) After first win with +1 we are allow to try to capture waves until break even +0.

20110313 - 20110304 random org

+0
+1
+8
+0
+2
+0
+0
+0
+0
+1
+5
+0
+1
+0

won +18 loss -1 even :8

Why waste time at random.org which in no way mirrors true random they simply shuffle numbers. Why not run it against a real wheel? then youll really know if you have something...

ego


Well i have a wheel at home - Huxley - but that i use for a different ball game  ;)
Random org is 100% pure random.

Well i just so tierd of all topics as i never read some one that try to succed flat betting - but if you know a topic about it plz feel free to pin point the direction ...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: ego on Mar 14, 09:43 AM 2011
Well I have a wheel at home - Huxley - but that I use for a different ball game  ;)
Random org is 100% pure random.

Well I just so tierd of all topics as I never read some one that try to succed flat betting - but if you know a topic about it plz feel free to pin point the direction ...
Your ideas about flat bet approach are always welcome,
same as your comeback Lucky.Stay longer this time as many can learn from
you here.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

ego

Here I will write about even money bets.
All my knowledge is based upon Marigny de Grillue's work.

We will speak about the even money distribution as different formations of waves that occur.
We will not deal with patterns.
We will speak about different states - waves.

Values.

Singels has the value of 1
Series has the value of 1

Three states - observation.

So if series chop they grow in strength +1+2+3 and short, medium or large imbalance occur.
Same is as the opposite appears that singels start to chop and they grow in strength +1+2+3+4 and short, medium or large imbalance occur.
If series and singels start to alternating once each then the values will hovering around zero and there is no present imbalance.

Nice comparison.

link:://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollinger_Bands

Math and calculation:

First I will illustrate this with a simple example.
If you have 14 series "events" and 2 singels "events" present as a sequence then you calculate as follows:

First you have to get the Absolute Std when you calculate.
Then you take 14 - 2 = 12

Now we want to get the statistical std so we continue with...
14 + 2 = 16

Now we take the sqr of 16 = 4

And finally we divide the Absolute Std  whit the sqr

12 sqr 4 = 3,00

The Statistical STD 3,00

Here below is a chart for illustration ...

Dummy chart:



Probability:

When we observe series and singels they come in different combinations - but if we start to observe them as different states of the distribution, waves - then our observations change as we can continues see how small, medium and large states of imbalance occur and also notice how periodic states of correction appears also how does states have steady periodic flow towards a certain degree.

Tendency:

It indicate that we only place bets when there already exist a significant change present - as we don't chase to capture events that is not present or just follow the flow with out any indication towards present change - as it at least avoid us from falling into a trap as nothing is due to happen or grow towards any extant.
There exist different techniques - some one argue first try to capture small change once and if a loss then wait for present change - this is what a march is about - how and when to place a bet to capture more out of already present change.

Definition of correction:

When we receive one of the two states as a opposite result of our previous state we have a clear indication there is a present change by observation - depending on our "bench mark" of our previous state we will determine if we would attack or not.
The correction correlates with two opposite states as opposite towards our previous state and are by definition part of correction to a certain degree.

March

One thing I like is when and why some one would place he's first bet to capture a tendency towards a small, medium or large correction.
There exist different ways you can use as tendency play.
Its like having a certain algorithm to capture small, medium or large states that calibrate and correlate as opposite effect of previous state.

States/Waves.

Some states are underrepresented to a higher extand then others - with also by it self is a bench mark when some one chose to play this kind of game.
We will deal with that later during this topic.

Variations of states ...

When we observe the distribution of series and singels they come in all kind of combinations.
The goal is to find a state/sequence that is as clear as possible with underrepresented formations.

If we take at least a series of two singels and one single series present and one more series of two singels as minimum towards a qualified state - then the STD is around 1.00 as a tiny state/wave.
Then the singels has no other formation present and are a direct opposite effect towards series to chop - we have imbalance towards one direction.
The single present series among does singels is also single with out any tendency to any other formation.

We know what will happen in the future - but we don't know when it will happen in the future - so our best option is to continue to observe.
The minimum state has a value around 0.81 to 1.00 STD but can come as a stronger state depending one how many singels are present and how many single series we have present - so we can let the state grow to any extant as nothing is due to happen.

After observing a state like I mention above - some one would observe and use a march to capture change when its present with or with out "hedge bet" as one attempt to capture a quick downswing.
As we deal with small variations/states the ride can be bumpy - using this example.

One other bench mark is to use 6 or 7 straight singels as a clear state - then you know if another straight 6 or 7 hit again you reach a 2.5 or 3.0 std with is a very strong imbalance and the way towards that you will receive many states that will calibrate and never hit to that extant - it is also done with just a few bets after a present change.

There exist many other variations - some more easy to observe and play then others.
One example of a complex state is when the distribution is hovering at zero point - then we know that the alternating series and singels that comes once each will grow towards one of the two opposite directions to a degree of at least formation of two and higher.
What has mention above apply to any state - like series of series and so on ...

The infinity law.

As every trail is independent with no limits of freedom - we can start measuring from any trail or position we like - that means that you can pick any window with any bench mark / std at any place during the distribution.
From this position you would observe for small, medium or large swings that you know will become a part of your present state and the other states will become the future (nothing is due but it does not effect us when we only observe )  then you have your march witch will be the "key to the solution" to capture events after they are present or with combination of a hedge bet.
The down side with this method is all states that will go back to back to certain degree - even if we know the other states will become present with out chasing them when we rater try to ride them out as present events ...
Tendency.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ludo8400


EGO ( Lucky Strike; I have cookies)

Every march and selection will be described with every file to download to verify the results - good as bad

Where can we find this download on random.org? :question:

ludo8400

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