EC 10% Money Management Plan

[atlantis]

EC 10% Money Management Plan
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This method as far as I know was first outlined by member "doubledime" in
Ref: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14209.0
At least that is how it first came to MY attention. There didn't seem to be much follow-up on it...
But I have to say I like it very much!!! So thank you doubledime for the idea.

Any old reasonably good EC Selection method will do to accompany the plan he posted so for starters I will use:

ODD/EVEN MATRIX OF THREE.
Betting for SERIES or STREAK pattern to continue depending on last vertical pair of results/outcomes in previous 2 lines

* = new or level high

Progression: Base level is £1 x 3 spins per line of results. (1-1-1)

If lose a line:
=========
When you LOSE 2/3 spins or 3/3 spins on a line adjust stake for next line.
This is done by taking the existing stake level and adding 10% of the current loss amount (rounded up or down as necessary) to form a new higher staking level.

If win a line but still in arrears to previous high:
=============================
When you WIN 2/3 spins or 3/3 spins on a line adjust stake for next line.
This is done by taking the existing stake level and deducting 10% of the current loss amount (rounded up or down as necessary) to form a new lower staking level.

If win a line and level high or in new profit:
==========================
When you have WON back previous losses and are level or ahead (new high) reset to base starting unit stake of 1u.


EXAMPLE SESSION #1
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OEE
EEO 
OOO wll =      -1  up to 1.1
EEO : =   +2.30*  d to 1.0
EEE  lll   =      -1.30    up to 1.1
OOO llw  =     -2.40   up to 1.5
OOO lll    =     -6.90   up to 2.4
OOO : =   +0.30  d to 2.2
OOE wwl  =    +2.50*   d to 1.0
EEO  llw   =    +1.50   u to 1.1
EEE  llw   =    +0.40   u to 1.3
EEE wwl  =    +1.70   d to 1.2
EOE wlw  =    +2.90*   d to 1.0
EOE wlw  =    +3.90*  stay @1.0
OEE llw    =    +2.90   u to 1.1
EOE : =    +6.20*   d to 1.0
EEO wwl   =    +7.20*   stay @1.0
OEE wlw   =    +8.20*   stay @1.0
EEE  lwl    =    +7.20   u to 1.1
OOE wlw  =     +8.40*   d to 1.0
OEE  lww =     +9.40*    stay @1.0
OOE : =    +12.40*   stay @1.0
EEE lww   =     +13.40*   stay @1.0
OEO wll    =     +12.40   u to 1.10
OEO lwl    =     +11.30   u to  1.30
OEE wwl   =     +12.60   d to  1.20
EEO lww   =     +13.80*  STOPPED
========================== 

+13.80 profit
Highest bet = 2.40

Members Note: Of course ANY suitable or favourite single EC selection method will do to test or try!
Just assess your +/- status after every trio of bets made.
And, remember, not just limited to roulette either

Your feedback, comments, findings and/or suggestions are all very welcome.

Atlantis.

[atlantis]

Playing EC using trend tracker cluster idea + 10% money management plan.

Record results in clusters of 3 (trio) before betting once according to below chart.

Play R
=====
You see BRB you play R for the pattern to continue
You see BBR you play R for the pattern to continue
You see BRR you play R for the pattern to continue
You see RRR you play R for the pattern to continue

Play B
=====
You see RBR you play B for the pattern to continue
You see BBB you play B for the pattern to continue
You see RRB you play B for the pattern to continue
You see RBB you play B for the pattern to continue

* = equal or new high

Assess +/- status after every THREE bets made using 10% formula.

BRR  -         record first trio of results                     
RRR W                                                 
BRR L                                                     
BRB L         -1.0 ( - 1.0 ; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                             
RBR W                 
BBB W               
BBR W       +2.3* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                     
BBB L         
BRB W             
BRR L        +1.3 (- 1.0;  10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                     
RBB W                   
BBB W                   
RBR L        +2.3 (level - so reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                 
BRB W             
RBR W                       
BBR W       +5.3*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                     
BRR L                                         
RRR W                               
BBR L        +4.3  (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                           
BRB L                 
BBB L                       
BRB W       +3.2  (-1.1; 10% of 1.1 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)                               
BRR L       
RBR W                                   
RBB L        +2.0  (-1.2; 10% 0f 1.2 = .1 so next 3 bets= 1.30)           
BBR W                                 
RRR W             
RBR W       +5.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                         
RRR L                   
RRR W           
RBB W       +6.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
RRB L
BBB W           
BBR W       +7.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)               
BRR L       
RBR W             
BBB W       +8.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)         
BRR W     
RBB W             
BBR W      +11.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
BRR L       
BRR L     
RBR W       +10.9 (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)
RRR L                   
RBB W                                       
RBB L        +9.8 (-1.1; 10% of 1.1 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)         
BBB W               
BBB W                   
BRB W      +13.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                       
RRR W           
RRB W                 
RRR L        +14.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
RBR W       
BRB W                         
RRB W      +17.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
BBR W     
RRR W       
BBB L        +18.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                       
RBR L                   
BBR W                                 
RBB W       +19.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)
BBB W
BRR W                     
BRB L        +20.4* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)     
RBR W                         
RBR L     
RBR L        +19.4  (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                     
BBB W               
RBB L                   
RRR L        +18.3 (-1.1; 10%of 1.1 = .2 so next 3 bets = 1.20)           
BRR L                         
RBR W       
BRB W      +19.5   (+0.8; 10% of 0.8 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10) 
RRB W 
BBR W                   
RRB W      +22.5*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                 
RBR L     
BRB W             
RBB W      +23.5* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)     
RRR L       
BBR L             
BRB L       +20.5 (-3.0; 10% of 3.0 = .3 so next 3 bets = 1.30)       
BBR L                 
RRR W             
RBR W      +21.8 (+1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)       
BBB W             
RBB L           
RRB L       +20.6 (-1.2; 10% of 1.2 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.30)             
RBB L     
RRR L           
RBR W      +19.3 (-1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next  3 bets =1.40)     
BBB W       
RBB L       
RBR W      +20.7 (+1.4; 10% of 1.4 = .1 so next  3 bets = 1.30)     
RBR L                   
BBR W       
RBB W      +22.0 (+1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)
BBB W         
BBR W       
RRR W      +25.6*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)         
RBB W         
BBR W
RRB W      +28.6* (ahead - STOP)

+£28.60
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A.

[marvin]

i am intrigued by your betselection.
say you have BRB, do you always bet on R on the next 3 spins or stop on W?

[TwoCatSam]

Atlantis

Thanks for the idea.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Atlantis

When zero comes, do you finish that row and then wait for six new spins without a zero to begin over?

EOE
OEO
EO0......That would be wwl?  Correct?  Then we stop and pee and wait for six new spins so the zero is moot?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

I just tried this on Celtic live wheel.  Had the worst run of luck in a while.  All but two were llw or lll.  One was : and one was wwl.  Played for 17 sets of 3.

Created a nice matrix sheet if anyone wants it.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

In this idea, we are playing the decision before last (penultimate) will be the same.  After about 300 spins, it seems that the penultimate is the opposite more than it is the same.

I will test more as it is raining here and I can't work in the pit.  I'll report soon on my findings.

Sm

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

If a person had a large enough bankroll and wasn't a chicken, this might be a workable system.  I just played 33 spins.  My largest dd was $81.5 and my largest bet was $38.  It is tricky to do the math, but I've got it figured out.  (You can actually do the math after winning or loosing the second leg of the triad.)

I was betting a $10 minimum at Celtic.

Since I don't know for sure about the zero, I just ignore it as a factor in deciding  where to bet.  Naturally, I don't ignore it as to the progression.

I'll keep plugging away at this as time permits.

TwoCat

[TwoCatSam]

The silence is deafening but I trod onward...............

This is proving to be an idea I'd throw money at.  It is a slow, slow grind with a small profit at the end.  I'm sure the run from hell is out there somewhere.

One thing:  Anytime you go into the positive, even if it's for only one unit--begin a new game.  Pocket your chip and go to square one.

Sam

[thelaw]

The silence is deafening but I trod onward...............

This is proving to be an idea I'd throw money at.  It is a slow, slow grind with a small profit at the end.  I'm sure the run from hell is out there somewhere.

One thing:  Anytime you go into the positive, even if it's for only one unit--begin a new game.  Pocket your chip and go to square one.

Sam

Hey TwoCat,

If you want to run it against my "horror sequence" I've attached it below. This is the worst I've ever seen. I haven't found a system to survive it yet.

Just convert the w/L to B/R or whatever you want.

Good luck!

[TwoCatSam]

No need, law.  I found it on my own.  Bets became outrageous.

Sam

[marvin]

i am beginning to like this MMP.  ill run some more test on this and try to apply this in real B&M casino which I still don't have any idea how to.

thelaw,
i ran through the first 100+ spins of your "horror sequelnce" and this is my result so far....

trigger point   
-1   
-2.1   
-0.79   
2.21   
5.21   
8.21   
9.21   
10.21   
11.21   
14.21   
13.21   
10.21   
8.78   
10.35   
8.95   
13.57   
14.96   new high reset to 1 as per sam
11.96   
10.86   
10.739   
9.409   
13.789   
15.089   new high reset to 1 as per sam
12.089   
13.189   
14.189   
17.189   new high reset to 1 as per sam
18.189   
19.189   
20.189   
23.189   
24.189   
21.189   
22.289   
25.289   new high reset to 1 as per sam
24.289   
23.189   
26.819   new high reset to 1 as per sam
25.819   
26.919   new high reset to 1 as per sam
25.919   
29.219   new high reset to 1 as per sam
32.219   


running through the next 150+ spins i can see a big drawdown, lets see how this MMP will hold given that we have already huge cushion.  will post it later

[atlantis]

Playing EC using trend tracker cluster idea + 10% money management plan.

Record results in clusters of 3 (trio) before betting once according to below chart.

Play R
=====
You see BRB you play R for the pattern to continue
You see BBR you play R for the pattern to continue
You see BRR you play R for the pattern to continue
You see RRR you play R for the pattern to continue

Play B
=====
You see RBR you play B for the pattern to continue
You see BBB you play B for the pattern to continue
You see RRB you play B for the pattern to continue
You see RBB you play B for the pattern to continue

* = equal or new high

Assess +/- status after every THREE bets made using 10% formula.

BRR  -         record first trio of results                     
RRR W                                                 
BRR L                                                     
BRB L         -1.0 ( - 1.0 ; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                             
RBR W                 
BBB W               
BBR W       +2.3* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                     
BBB L         
BRB W             
BRR L        +1.3 (- 1.0;  10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                     
RBB W                   
BBB W                   
RBR L        +2.3 (level - so reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                 
BRB W             
RBR W                       
BBR W       +5.3*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                                     
BRR L                                         
RRR W                               
BBR L        +4.3  (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                           
BRB L                 
BBB L                       
BRB W       +3.2  (-1.1; 10% of 1.1 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)                               
BRR L       
RBR W                                   
RBB L        +2.0  (-1.2; 10% 0f 1.2 = .1 so next 3 bets= 1.30)           
BBR W                                 
RRR W             
RBR W       +5.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                         
RRR L                   
RRR W           
RBB W       +6.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
RRB L
BBB W           
BBR W       +7.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)               
BRR L       
RBR W             
BBB W       +8.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)         
BRR W     
RBB W             
BBR W      +11.9*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
BRR L       
BRR L     
RBR W       +10.9 (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)
RRR L                   
RBB W                                       
RBB L        +9.8 (-1.1; 10% of 1.1 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)         
BBB W               
BBB W                   
BRB W      +13.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                       
RRR W           
RRB W                 
RRR L        +14.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
RBR W       
BRB W                         
RRB W      +17.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)       
BBR W     
RRR W       
BBB L        +18.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                       
RBR L                   
BBR W                                 
RBB W       +19.4*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)
BBB W
BRR W                     
BRB L        +20.4* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)     
RBR W                         
RBR L     
RBR L        +19.4  (-1.0; 10% of 1.0 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10)                     
BBB W               
RBB L                   
RRR L        +18.3 (-1.1; 10%of 1.1 = .2 so next 3 bets = 1.20)           
BRR L                         
RBR W       
BRB W      +19.5   (+0.8; 10% of 0.8 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.10) 
RRB W 
BBR W                   
RRB W      +22.5*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)                 
RBR L     
BRB W             
RBB W      +23.5* (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)     
RRR L       
BBR L             
BRB L       +20.5 (-3.0; 10% of 3.0 = .3 so next 3 bets = 1.30)       
BBR L                 
RRR W             
RBR W      +21.8 (+1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)       
BBB W             
RBB L           
RRB L       +20.6 (-1.2; 10% of 1.2 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.30)             
RBB L     
RRR L           
RBR W      +19.3 (-1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next  3 bets =1.40)     
BBB W       
RBB L       
RBR W      +20.7 (+1.4; 10% of 1.4 = .1 so next  3 bets = 1.30)     
RBR L                   
BBR W       
RBB W      +22.0 (+1.3; 10% of 1.3 = .1 so next 3 bets = 1.20)
BBB W         
BBR W       
RRR W      +25.6*  (ahead - reduce to 1.0 for next 3 bets)         
RBB W         
BBR W
RRB W      +28.6* (ahead - STOP)

+£28.60
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A.

Playing this method slightly different now...
On any win - wait for next bet and parlay - if win reset progression to 1st 1, else go to next stage of progression.
1-1-1-2-2-3-4-5-7-7-9-11 = 53 units at risk.

Target 5-10 units.

Example:

RBR        next=1st@1
BBB w+1 next=P2                   +1
BRB w+2 reset; next=1st@1    +3
RRB w+1 next=P2                   +4
BRR w+2 reset; next =1st@1    +6
BBR L-1   next=2nd@1             +5
RBR w+1 next=P2                    +6
RBB L-2   next=3rd@1             +4
RBB L-1   next=1st@2              +3
RBB L-2   next=2nd@2             +1
BBR w+2  next=P4                   +3
RRB w+4  reset; next=1st@1    +7
BRR w+1  next=P2                   +8
R--   w+2  STOP                       +10
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Regards,
A.