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4 X 9 and other ideas...

Started by woods101, Nov 17, 02:43 PM 2011

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woods101

Another matrix idea which was a response to Chrisbis' enquiry..

Hi Chris and all,


Spilt the table into easy 9 groups of 4's... 1,4,7,10;   14,17,20,23;  etc

matrix may look like this...

8 6 7 2
7 6 7 5
2 2 8 8
1 3 5 7
4 1 9 2
7 6 5 3
9 7 0 9
4 3 9 8
9 9 6 1
9 6 7 8

I think there are many possible bets here but say you are looking for pairs.
As an easy example you have 7 6 repeated:


8 6 7 2
7 6 7 5
2 2 8 8
1 3 5 7
4 1 9 2
7 6 5 3
9 7 0 9
4 3 9 8
9 9 6 1
9 6 7 8 - You bet the first two numbers this line that 7 and 6 won't repeat. You win on the first bet.

The problem with this is the progression and placement. The first bet you are covering 32 numbers (not including zero).  Then if you need to go to the second stage, to bounce back you need to play 11u on each number or splits of 22u which may prove difficult physically.
Prog would be 2-stage -  32 -331.

This is messy and awkward, but whilst here another bet could be a lot quicker such as the subtracted distance between two numbers:

8 6 7 2
7 6..

7 is 8-1 and 6 is 6-0
so the next two bets you are betting the same distance between the next two pairs-

So you are playing against a repeat of the above arithmetic :7-1 = 6 and 2- 0 =2.
You are betting against 6 and 2 being the next two numbers:

8 6 7 2
7 6 7 5 - As you can see we win the first bet.

If you can win 120 of these bets then you've double your BR. Is this possible? I don't know.

As said before this is not an ideal bet but there are easier ones out there when looking at d & c's as example.
Any matrix idea is two steps forward and one step back, and you have to take a loss quite often but as long as you are winning more than you lose then you're winning right? Even if it's 8 steps forward and 7 steps back. I think different matrix bets provide a different 'step' ratio.
8/7 is ok but I think there's better.

Right now I think D & C has a lot to give. It has quite a few advocates but I feel there is even more scope to this method when looked at a little deeper.

Woods









woods101

sorry Chris I digressd but yeh you could bet against: R,B,R,0,R  covering the table for that zero would be a pain and a bit mentally confusing for a bear of little brain like me though. There is a method where you bet a grand marty against the last 5 even chances which is similiar. The reason that I was saying in the pattern breaker thread to bet against 'spaced' or 'forced' groups of three is  D&C does a similiar thing. I am convinced that D&C improves your chances compared to just betting on the last 3 Doz outcomes say, and I feel you could apply this methodology to RB also and improve your chances as example. When put on the spot and asked to perform to a structure I do believe you make randomness work a little bit harder which can be in your favour. This is the (debatable - I know!) advantage of any matrix system.

Woods

Chrisbis

That "Zero" (so u called it) is not a Zero... its an Odd.!
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Since there are 6 Even Chances to bet on, I'm mixing up the bet sequence, and directly asking Random, to "SNAP" me!

Its rather like saying, I wish for a certain Color/H/L/O/E so, bet against it showing in the order of the bet sequence u have set out for Urself.

With it being an EC, progression is fairly low, and on a loss, U ask random to give U exactly the same sequence again.

Random may oblige U, but if U make the sequence distinctive, then U may get away with it.
Poss trick will be change Ur sequence after a win, and go for another one.
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woods101

Aaahh- I'm with you now. totally misunderstood.
Yeh mix it up a bit - good idea.

Also does a pattern have to be so linear-
if playing against say,
RBB
bbr then you have  :
RBB
bbb
rbr
RBB
brb
bbr
rrr
....What about betting here?
bbr
rrr
rrb
brb
....and then here?


Just thoughts.


(Congrats on your promotion by the way!)

Woods
 

woods101

Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 17, 02:58 PM 2011

With it being an EC, progression is fairly low, and on a loss, U ask random to give U exactly the same sequence again.


...exactly! ..and with it being low you can ask it to repeat with higher stakes. Go high for three hits say (times your original stake by 10 as example)and you've got your original 'low' BR back (27u; 31u etc), then you carry on before. You play a two stage game.

This is where I'm at at the mo.

Woods


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