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Dozens 'n Columns System

Started by LeoVonLioN, Aug 18, 05:35 PM 2010

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LeoVonLioN

In the past most of my system creations involved negative type progressions, and ALL of them in the end got into deeeep trouble. So after some time away from roulette I got thinking....... what about a trying a system with a positive progression instead.

So here it is......... another simple and easy to play system:

Wait for a dozen and/or column to hit twice in a row (trigger) and start the positive progression 1,1,2,2,3,3....ect until lose,then re-track.

The idea is, as long as the first part of the progression won you will be in profit from any loses further along the progression.

Also treat each dozen/column as separate,although you can play them both at the same time.

I've tested this so far for 300 spins with live roulette numbers, starting on a bankroll of 0, and actually finished -1, with a high of only +9 and a low of -11... which dosn't sound all that great but there were along the way plenty of exit points. Remember the most you can lose from a game is -1 but much to gain from long repeating dozens or columns. Although in these 300 spins they did'nt repeat as much as I thought they would, in the past I've seen a dozen repeat 13 times in row and that would of shot the bankroll up a fair way on a positive prog.

Here is the progression table for a L/W  

Step 1: If lose -1    If win +2
Step 2: If lose +1   If win +4
Step 3: If lose +2   If win +8
Step 4: If lose +6   If win +12
Step 5: If lose +9   If win +18
Step 6: If lose +15 If win +24


I will keep testing and hopefully hit a nice run of repeats  :-[


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LeoVonLioN

I did a shorter more 'realistic' test of 100 spins and it came out and +15 with a session low of -4.. It got up to 1,1,2,2,3 of the progression at one point which helped alot!

Will keep testing.........

LeoVonLioN

Had a session of 354 spins just to get it +5... this is bit a grinder for sure but not lost yet.

kawa4711

Hi, LeoVonLioN ,
thank you for sharing your idea.
For better understanding my question :

Par.  ex this dozens are thrown:
2
2
3
3
1
2
3
3
3
1
2
3
3
2
1
2
2

After 2 2 do you play 1 chip then there is dozen 3 thrown, this is a loss.
Do you stop here and wait for another trigger like the next: 3 3 then you bet again with 1 the next is dozen 1 a loss again, do you wait for the next trigger or how do you handle this.
Can you pleas make a short explanation how you would play my dozen sample.

Best reagrds

kawa4711

LeoVonLioN

Quote from: kawa4711 on Aug 18, 07:03 PM 2010
Hi, LeoVonLioN ,
thank you for sharing your idea.
For better understanding my question :

Par.  ex this dozens are thrown:
2
2 < trigger, 1 chip on 2
3 < loss -1
3 <trigger, 1 chip on 3
1 < loss -1 (-2)
2
3
3 < trigger, 1 chip on 3
3 < win ,1 chip on 3 (0)
1 <loss (-1)
2
3
3 < trigger, 1 chip on 3
2 < loss (-2)
1
2
2 < trigger


After 2 2 do you play 1 chip then there is dozen 3 thrown, this is a loss. yes
Do you stop here and wait for another trigger like the next: 3 3 yes then you bet again with 1 the next is dozen 1 a loss again, do you wait for the next trigger or how do you handle this.
Can you pleas make a short explanation how you would play my dozen sample.

Best reagrds

kawa4711

Hope this helps kawa? ,My thoughts are this would be a tedious thing to play for real because it does some times go 100's of spins before a long streak of D/C's.

kawa4711

Hi, LeoVonLioN,
thank you for your quick reply.

This is an interesting approach.

Sometimes I played this way:

repeat of a dozen (or column) like 2 2 then I plyayed a DÃâ,¬lembert till dozen 2 reappeared, but it can go a steep proghression, if the dozen reappears after par.  ex 6 or more spins.
Your way is better  :thumbsup:, I must try it out.

Thank you again for your idea

Best regards

kawa4711

sekuritati

This is what I have been testing and the reality is that in 80% of the cases a dosen does not repeat for more than 2 spins, but 2 spins come very often.

My suggestion is that you lose the trigger of two dosens and just bet the last dosen

on kawa spins for example


Par.  ex this dozens are thrown:

2 1 chip on 2
2 Win +2, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss +1, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +3, 1 chip on 3
1 Loss +2, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss 0, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +2, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +4, 2 chips on 3
1 Loss +2, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss 0, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +2, 1 chip on 3
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
1 Loss 0, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss -1, 1 chip on 2
2 Win +1

etc.

It is obvious that appropriate exit points should be applied. For instance, above when we were +4, I would personally exit the session, retrack after 20-25 spins

moles40

Quote from: sekuritati on Aug 19, 06:06 AM 2010
This is what I have been testing and the reality is that in 80% of the cases a dosen does not repeat for more than 2 spins, but 2 spins come very often.

My suggestion is that you lose the trigger of two dosens and just bet the last dosen

on kawa spins for example


Par.  ex this dozens are thrown:

2 1 chip on 2
2 Win +2, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss +1, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +3, 1 chip on 3
1 Loss +2, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss 0, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +2, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +4, 2 chips on 3
1 Loss +2, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
3 Loss 0, 1 chip on 3
3 Win +2, 1 chip on 3
2 Loss +1, 1 chip on 2
1 Loss 0, 1 chip on 1
2 Loss -1, 1 chip on 2
2 Win +1

etc.

It is obvious that appropriate exit points should be applied. For instance, above when we were +4, I would personally exit the session, retrack after 20-25 spins

I also  find you win more by following the last dozen that hit rather than waiting for a dozen to hit twice in a row  :)

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