divide and conquer plus

[Robeenhuut]

Hi 6th-sense,

I have gone over your example and would appreciate your comments on the table of data you presented above, namely:

00 ACC    00 BAB    00 CAC
05 ACB    04 BAB    01 CBB
08 AAA    07 BCC    02 CBC
09 ABB    10 BAB    03 CAA
11 A0A    14 BCB    06 CBC
12 ABB    19 BAC    13 CCA
15 ABC    24 BAC    18 CCB
16 AAB    26 B0A    23 CCB
17 ACC    30 BCA    29 CCB
20 AAC    31 BCC
21 ACB
22 A0B
25 ACB
27 ACA
28 ABA


Can you please have a look at what I have reproduced below and elaborate how you got results for the following trios as I couldn’t find them in the data provided, specifically:

Trio 02
Trio 03
Trio 09
Trio 13


Here is your data reproduced with commentary of my understanding:


C ---> Place A in front of next 2 results = ACC (Trio 00)
C
A ---> Place B in front of next 2 results = BAB (Trio 00)
B
A ---> Place C in front of next 2 results  = CAC (Trio 00)
C
C ---> Next 3 results = CBB (Trio 01)
B
B
C
C
A
B
B ---> Next 3 results = BAB (Trio 04)
A
B
A ---> Next 3 results = ACB (Trio 05)
C
B
C ---> Next 3 results = BCB (Trio 06)
B
C
B ---> Next 3 results = BCC (Trio 07)
C
C
A ---> Next 3 results = AAA (Trio 08)
A
A
A
B
A
B ---> Next 3 results = BAB (Trio 10)
A
B
A ---> Next 3 results = A0A (Trio 11)
0
A
A ---> Next 3 results = ABB (Trio 12)
B
B
C
A
A
B ---> Next 3 results = BCB (Trio 14)
C
B
A ---> Next 3 results = ABC (Trio 15)
B
C
A ---> Next 3 results = AAB (Trio 16)
A
B
A ---> Next 3 results = ACC (Trio 17)
C
C
C ---> Next 3 results = CCB (Trio 18)
C
B
B ---> Next 3 results = BAC (Trio 19)
A
C
A ---> Next 3 results = AAC (Trio 20)
A
C
A
A
C
0
A ---> Next 3 results = ACB (Trio 21)
C
B
A ---> Next 3 results = A0B (Trio 22)
0
B
C ---> Next 3 results = CCB (Trio 23)
C
B
B ---> Next 3 results = BAC (Trio 24)
A
C
A ---> Next 3 results = ACB (Trio 25)
C
B
B ---> Next 3 results = B0A (Trio 26)
0
A
A ---> Next 3 results = ACA (Trio 27)
C
A
A ---> Next 3 results = ABA (Trio 28)
B
A
C ---> Next 3 results = CCB (Trio 29)
C
B
B ---> Next 3 results = BCA (Trio 30)
C
A
B ---> Next 3 results = BCC (Trio 31)
C
C


Regards

B 27

Hello

Stay away from matrix systems. They give you false illusion of being more in control because you chose an sophisticated pattern to bet against.  Row, columns, stars or... others it is the same.
And hit and run its just an illusion. 
It might work in short term but it will catch up with you eventually.

Regards

[warrior]

I must agree .

[Bettor 27]

Stay away from matrix systems. They give you false illusion of being more in control because you chose an sophisticated pattern to bet against.  Row, columns, stars or... others it is the same.
And hit and run its just an illusion. 
It might work in short term but it will catch up with you eventually.

Hi Robeenhuut & Warrior,

Which method do you suggest I should investigate further?

Regards

B 27

[6th-sense]

warrior and robeenhuut...i will not argue with you over something we know you are right on...but the same could be said for any system on here with progressions...the point ? i,m just showing something that doesn,t lose as much as the original betting strategy...its still in the plus...


bettor 27 ...i didn,t think it was hard to follow...
the numbers i use is the order each trio came out to start the row


now i must say this to all...the d&c strategy is there for all to see and make up there own minds..i agree with warrior and robeenhuut however you are not looking at the bigger picture...


  roulette is a series of cycles?? i don,t think a static bet works?
going with the flow per 100 spins moving with random itself


  i,ll explain what else you an see and if you test it out yourseves in the results i,ve shown..


  there are cycles there for each column the a,b,c column when numbered is a clue...sometimes there is one dominent trigger column ie the ones with the boxes round them all through my results...


look at the numbers of each trio result in the list...it gives you a bet to bet against...ie the beat of flow of the table at the time...


ie  1 abc     4 bca      7 cbc
      2 abc     6bac       9 cbc
      3 aab    8 bca     10 ccb
      5 aaa   11 bbb    12 cb


the numbers are the order they come out


1 out is 1 abc underneath it 2nd result  2abc too a beat number of 1 ie the difference between 1 and 2 is 1
iv,e worked out that if you bet against  column a coming out every beat of 1 ie every 3 spins all the way through the game with a 6 step progression on doz and the same for all columns its never lost .
b column result number is a beat of 4,6, ie we take only the two 1st numbers and bet against it coming out every 2 beats ..ie difference between 4 and 6 is 2 all the way to 100 spins give or take..ie every 6 spins we bet against it.


c column beat is 7,9 difference of the beat is again 2 ie 7-9 is 2 so our beat is 2 again we bet against it coming out every 2 beats ..ie 3 spins is 1 beat 2 spins is 6 beats ....


sometimes its 3 or 4 or even 7 or 8 beats to bet against but still its the best and most profitable dozen system to come from d&c

[Robeenhuut]

Hi Robeenhuut & Warrior,

Which method do you suggest I should investigate further?

Regards

B 27

Hello B27

Try Pivot method. One of the surest thing in roulette  is  that few repeats will hit again in the next 36 spins.  Add numbers to bet on as they repeat and use progression to stay in profit.  Start from 2 or 3 repeaters. You should get a hit within 10 spins but be prepared to wait 20 spins.
The bankroll is quite substantial - to cover 20 spins you need more or less 1000 u so it scares some people off.

Regards

[6th-sense]

Robeenhuut I can,t see a difference y the pivot system is better than what I am suggesting..except it cost more than the progression needed for mine ie the cyclonic bet...could the pivot system withstand 3200 spins as mine has? Which has tripled the bankroll at moment.I suppose one is as good as the other though not a matrix bet you are still dealing with a bet that will fail just as much as the original d&c bet so both must be a false illusion......nothing is perfect but trying to improve and put random in an order and then work with a better understanding of what you see is at least a good step in a direction of understanding..... So b27 make your own mind up

[Robeenhuut]

Robeenhuut I can,t see a difference y the pivot system is better than what I am suggesting..except it cost more than the progression needed for mine ie the cyclonic bet...could the pivot system withstand 3200 spins as mine has? Which has tripled the bankroll at moment.I suppose one is as good as the other though not a matrix bet you are still dealing with a bet that will fail just as much as the original d&c bet so both must be a false illusion......nothing is perfect but trying to improve and put random in an order and then work with a better understanding of what you see is at least a good step in a direction of understanding..... So b27 make your own mind up

Hello

I was not suggesting anything. I just made sort of obvious statement about matrix systems in general and answered B 27 question about my system recommendation.
As far as i know Pivot system  withstood 250000 pins. Hermes reported it. He played it bit differently though. He recorded repeats in 36 spins and bet on them flat . Here you start with 2 or 3 repeats.
I tested it extensively. This is a very reliable and steady performer. I dont know if its better than yours  I have not tested it. 3200 spins is nothing in testing. Recently i posted a system that performed superbly for 5000 spins and suddenly started losing.  I was still in profit but suddenly losses started piling up.
Before i play any system  i test it on live spins and Rx but i rely mostly on live spins data.
And i test it by hand, some systems you just can not test using software. Its a lot of work but i don't want to take any chances.  And after that i still don't have any guarantee that it won't fail.
But i can see some patterns and possible tweaks.
How to incorporate stop-loss or your win goal? Software simulation does not reflect real play in casino when you play in cycles and not continuously.
I have a respect for software guys but i prefer to rely on my testing.

Regards 

[6th-sense]

I too test by hand pen and paper and yes I agree you do see a lot more than rx or computer simulation.I also don,t understand why anyone including yourself is not using the pivot system regardless of buy in bank based on the results to start making serious money....unless anyone has actually won or lost money on that system then a proper point of view can,t be gained....
Read some of xxvv post...Matrix patterns and especially d&c and code4 should not be dismissed so lightly they are the best way to guide you through the sea of randomness....

[Robeenhuut]

I too test by hand pen and paper and yes I agree you do see a lot more than rx or computer simulation.I also don't understand why anyone including yourself is not using the pivot system regardless of buy in bank based on the results to start making serious money....unless anyone has actually won or lost money on that system then a proper point of view can,t be gained....
Read some of xxvv post...Matrix patterns and especially d&c and code4 should not be dismissed so lightly they are the best way to guide you through the sea of randomness....

You make a valid point. But i know few respected members of this forum that like it.
The reasons that somebody doesnt play a particular system can be very different.
Bankroll, complex tracking, long progression, not enough time to place bets, early loss and so on.
I dont claim that its holy grail. But if you show me 10 very good systems i think that Pivot will
always make top 10 list based on its performance. I play on airball live wheel and sometimes its difficult for me to place all my bets due to time factor.  And i still  disagree on d&c and especially code4.
If you could read my earlier posts i lost FIRST EVER game of code4 played for real money.
I just made a mistake of not testing it thoroughly. Some people reported  winning streaks in excess of 300 games and i dont see how it could be possible. My testing produced  at best just average results.
But maybe im completely out of luck

Regards
   
 

[6th-sense]

you also make a lot of valid points yourself ,,i can,t argue with anything you say and in all honesty i lost 1st 2 times on d c and code 4 straight away....for real money...it did put me off for a while as i don,t like progressions but the results can be used to guide other methods...an early loss usually always puts people off...i,m no exception...its also nice to have a healthy debate with no malice

[Bettor 27]

The bankroll is quite substantial - to cover 20 spins you need more or less 1000 u so it scares some people off.

Hi Robeenhuut,

Thanks for your reply - risking 1000 units is too much risk for me ;(

Rgs

B 27