Hey, Butterflies! Here Are The Keys To The Bank!!

[iggiv]

i am not a veteran, it's been like maybe 2.5 years i am involved with roulette.

u should realize something. Most, absolutely most of mechanical systems fail on a long run. Still there are some smart gamblers that win. How? they don't just use one certain system all the time.
They use smart tactics. they never ride losing streak. They do ride winning streaks. they use smart money management. They know when to switch their tactics and so on.

if  i am a mod here it does not mean that i am necessarily  a perfect roulette pro which can teach u winning. This is a very complicated matter. you should find something that suits you and also study  some legitimate gambling literature like Brett Morton, Lee Tutor, Kimo Li, and others.

So GLC right about this: if u just come and bet and bet and bet using the same method, usually u will lose. But if u will use this method smartly u can be ahead. Switching methods may help a lot.

also i encourage you to get Roulette Extreme software (if u did not get one), there is a trial version u can try for some time. It is inexpensive and worth it if u gonna be involved with roulette.
Download real spins from this forum or from German spielbank websites, and play with RX, it may help a lot before u go to real casino.

winning roulette has never been an easy task. If it was casinos would not exist by now.

[GLC]

Wise words Iggiv.

Here's a short rant if you don't mind.


Many players feel that they have a winning system betting on straight up numbers and maybe they do.  My thoughts are that each formula used on straight up numbers should work if applied to splits, streets, lines even dozens.  If they don't, it could mean that it's just going to take 35 times as long for reality to come knocking. 


Here's my suggestion to all butterflies (not a bad thing to be in the overall scheme of things) pick a system that you really like to play.  Learn it, test it, practice it until you can play it with "half your brain tied behind your back".  Your tests should indicate that it has a very good chance to win every time you play it.  Test it for 3,000 bets and if it is still ahead or even if it's even, that's about as sure as you're going to get that it's a strong system.


Learn to win with it.  Here's a comment by Malcop that I think is worth incorporating in your technique.

I read somewhere to just accept what the table gives you, and don't try to force it and that's how I play, I never try and force a win or profit, just grateful for what I can get out of the session.

If a session is really tough that is telling me to get what I can and get the hell out of there!

When I'm in a session I'm always evaluating based on how the session is going when is the best time to exit, it's not always as easy as saying I will exit the session when I lose my buy-in or when I get to a certain target, because it is always changing, and you have to base your decision on what you know up to that point not what may or may-not happen.

Maybe that's why I have a high strike rate who knows but it works for me.

That's why I believe that no two people could ever have the same results unless they play like robots, my play is mechanical but not always my exit points, if my gut say go now, go when I reach say +6 again then that's what I do, learnt from experience the hard way to listen to that little voice.


If you do this, I think you can win consistently with many of the systems on this forum.  Ken has posted some excellent systems but they take a pretty long session at the casinos to play them properly.


Atlantis has also posted some good ones that have a high strike rate and some very gradual progressions that can keep you out of serious trouble.


F_LAT_INO has posted some very good systems.  Some are a little hard to play and get your bets out in time unless you are willing to really practice until you are proficient at them.  He also recommends playing sessions of 350 spins.  That's 6-8 hours depending on how busy the table is.  I can tell you from experience that that's a days work.  Not for the faint of heart.

I don't want to keep naming real veterans because I'll forget someone and they'll be mad at me.

Many of my systems use a steep progression.  Forget them.  Most of us, including myself, don't have the metal to make a multi-hundred unit bet knowing that if it loses, you have make another one even larger.  If you can play for pennies maybe.  For dollars, I doubt it.


If you don't love to play roulette, forget about it.  You're just kidding yourself unless you just hope to pick up a couple of bucks for a short hour or two at the casino.  This is hard work.  Here's a reality check, you must love to play roulette in order to start small and build a bankroll to a size that  wins enough to satisfy that inner urge we all have.  That inner urge will not let you sit for hours and play for pennies if you have a $10 inner urge.  If your inner urge is only satisfied by $10 units and you can't afford to play for $10 units then you must have the discipline of champion to build your bankroll.  A rare feat, you can be sure.  Many talk about doing it.  Almost none do it.


I know that I'm being a little negative, but these things I'm telling you, you will discover one way or the other.  I just want you to be realistic about this journey you're on.


Just because Malcop can win playing his "simple trend catcher" system doesn't mean that you can!  He has developed some inner signals that can't be taught, you have to learn them on your own and they may work better for you with a totally different system.


Pick your own system that you love to play and start climbing the mountain.  The sooner you do, the sooner you'll get to the top.


Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox.


Peace my friends,


GLC

[iggiv]

My 2 c. Make your statistics with RX and different german tables on a long run. for example play till u get certain percentage of your bankroll, skip 50 spins then play again. do it with different percentages and different  numbers of skipped spins. Find "rhythm" of your winnings, when u lose more, when u win more. Find more or less safe "rhythm". For example: u make 5 % of your bankroll or u play till u win. then u skip N spins till u be back to the same wheel. Try it with different wheels.

there could be certain statistical data which can be used by you to play safer.

and of course collect your statiscs as jpg files for bankroll trends in RX. that's why RX is very useful.

U can safely "lose" with RX and german data as much as u want. this way u "lose" virtually, and your money is SAFE.

remember roulette is a tricky bastard, and even for a few days u can win before u start losing.
but more wheels for more "days" and more spins u test it --if u win there is a chance that your method can be good for hit-n-run.