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Line idea based on Dozens

Started by Turner, Aug 13, 06:19 PM 2012

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Turner

Ill post the idea next post so the description is on its own without all this waffle.

I based it on the sad idea (first system I ever read) that you wait for a Doz to sleep for 5 then bet on it.
I will use that trigger, but wait till the same trigger happens again, then what ever number hit to make that 2nd trigger, I place 4U on that numbers line.

Line is standard 1=1,2,3,4,5,6   2=7,8,9,10,11,12

it wins over and over . Ive not tested it lots, mabe 1500 spins...but its very productive.

It has lost once or twice, and Im sure someone can come up with an idea to cope with that


Turner

3,3,27,18,36,27 and low Doz (no.3) is 5 back. We wait for low to repeat.
17, 33,22,23,14,6,,,and Low repeats so we bet 4U on the line which has no.6 in it. (Line 1)

Example with real spins from Bremen.
xxL or xxM or xxH= 1st trigger( 5 back is Low,Mid,High)  ** is trigger (repeat, so bet on the line)   WIN is where the line hits

14
21
32
23
14
27
30
35
28
1 xxM
27
15**
32
11
28
35
35
14WIN
28xxL
13
13
15
18
4 **
24
32
2 WIN
25
19
35
6
6
34
1 xxM
32
16 **
36
18 WIN
5
11
9
8xxH
16
2
24
24
20
12
15
1
28**
0
13
9
29
25
22WIN
22
14xxL
16
26
10**
27
31
23
23
9WIN
13
25
24
35
31xxL
13
36
3 **
33
4WIN
23
5

Turner

bet 4 U for 6 spins then remove and retrack.

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soggett

Nice results so far

why 4U for 6 spins?
can we use a progression here? whats the longest you saw without a hit so far?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Robeenhuut

I was curious why it would work. Results in about 200 spins are 6W and 6L tested on a live wheel. But the original idea i guess worked better.  :D
Matt

Turner

Quote from: soggett on Aug 14, 03:51 AM 2012
Nice results so far

why 4U for 6 spins?
can we use a progression here? what's the longest you saw without a hit so far?
Sogget
We can do what we want its for testing. Im full of ideas for bet selection but im crap at stakes and progression.
4 U for 6 was so it stopped at a reasonable loss that could be recovered with 1 or 2 wins. Important at this test phase is the bet sesection and triggers. The graphs are for 4u for 6 then retrack

Turner

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 14, 04:44 AM 2012
I was curious why it would work.

Why, because I had written it?   ^-^

Robeenhuut

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 14, 06:10 AM 2012
Why, because I had written it?   ^-^

No i just did not see any logic in this bet selection.  That's all and in my math you would need at least 2 or 3 wins to recover your 1 loss.
Matt

dino246

Interesting system,which i will back-test using b+m spins only.
How about 1u on each line number on the 6th spin + 4u on the complete line = 10u.
I wonder how many GAMES go to the 6th bet.( win or lose ).
Just a thought !!
Dino.

Turner

Quote from: dino246 on Aug 14, 07:39 AM 2012
Interesting system,which i will back-test using b+m spins only.
How about 1u on each line number on the 6th spin + 4u on the complete line = 10u.
I wonder how many GAMES go to the 6th bet.( win or lose ).
Just a thought !!
Dino.
Yeah...I think I have the bet bit all wrong, having said that, the graphs are 4U for 6 spins.
its the trigger and placement I was interested in. Loosly based on this premis.
"wait until a doz is 5 spins behind and bet on it" doesn't work. I noticed that it can go 18 spins but doesn't do it again for a while. I've never witnessed this >> LHHMHHMMHHHMMMHMHMLMHMMHMMHHHMHMHHML
SO when its got its long sleep out of its system, its worth a bet. The Line is half of that Doz.
Yeah...its Bollox! But is seems to work fairly well.

Turner

Did well with a progression on the line 1-2-3-4-5 stop. had 12 wins and 1 loss in 130 spins. Finished on £109U from a 40U start.

This Idea does really well. It also predicts Dozens to appear. Instead of betting the line, we bet the dozen. As it was free...I bet 5-10-15-20 stop on the doz. I got £40 up to £300 in 150 spins. I can post the graph tonight.

However, it hits a wall and just stops working....just like every other system.

That wall could be when you arrive at the table. Sounds familiar?

I wont waste any more time on it. Shame.....

Johnlegend

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 13, 06:56 PM 2012
3,3,27,18,36,27 and low Doz (no.3) is 5 back. We wait for low to repeat.
17, 33,22,23,14,6,,,and Low repeats so we bet 4U on the line which has no.6 in it. (Line 1)

Example with real spins from Bremen.
xxL or xxM or xxH= 1st trigger( 5 back is Low,Mid,High)  ** is trigger (repeat, so bet on the line)   WIN is where the line hits

14
21
32
23
14
27
30
35
28
1 xxM
27
15**
32
11
28
35
35
14WIN
28xxL
13
13
15
18
4 **
24
32
2 WIN
25
19
35
6
6
34
1 xxM
32
16 **
36
18 WIN
5
11
9
8xxH
16
2
24
24
20
12
15
1
28**
0
13
9
29
25
22WIN
22
14xxL
16
26
10**
27
31
23
23
9WIN
13
25
24
35
31xxL
13
36
3 **
33
4WIN
23
5
Nice Turnerfeck reminds me a bit of the Zone. And to give you an idea of what I'm using against Bayes Rng. How many times have you seen a single dozen produce 5 fives in a row ?

Johnlegend

Quote from: turnerfeck on Aug 14, 08:09 AM 2012
Yeah...I think I have the bet bit all wrong, having said that, the graphs are 4U for 6 spins.
its the trigger and placement I was interested in. Loosly based on this premis.
"wait until a doz is 5 spins behind and bet on it" doesn't work. I noticed that it can go 18 spins but doesn't do it again for a while. I've never witnessed this >> LHHMHHMMHHHMMMHMHMLMHMMHMMHHHMHMHHML
SO when its got its long sleep out of its system, its worth a bet. The Line is half of that Doz.
Yeah...its Bollox! But is seems to work fairly well.
Sleepers have always interested me Turnerfeck. I believe one of the surest ways to profit from this game, is to learn to predict them with a decent degree of accuracy. For example if you write down all the 2/1 chances. And record all gaps of 5 or more. It won't be long before a dozen or column goes to 9 or more. I've seen countless 12 plus streaks. And in my years playing this game many 20 plus streaks. The longest sleeper I've ever seen was column B. It slept for 34 straight spins. Now imagine you are on that from the sixth spin. This game can't be beaten? THINK AGAIN. Flow with the tide.

Stepkevh

then you also need to have a decent progression if you start at 6 and get a hit on the 34th
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Turner

Quote from: Johnlegend on Aug 15, 10:31 AM 2012
Nice Turnerfeck reminds me a bit of the Zone. And to give you an idea of what I'm using against Bayes Rng. How many times have you seen a single dozen produce 5 fives in a row ?

Lots..and thats why its a classic system (wait 5 and bet on that doz)
Problem is, its almost like that system is a trap. A trap for the unwarey newbie.
It performs beautifully and it reeled me in when I first tried it.
i made a bit of cash online...then the horrors of a few 18 and 21 spins sleep for the Doz brought the reality home.

Its so horrible, you are tempted to wait 5 and bet on the other 2.


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