This may be similar to 5

[Turner]

Having thought that "wait for 5 then  bet that backward dozen" doesn't work, "so bet the oposite"....back in June.....I tried this out based on that idea i had and all the other stuff I read in here. JLs stuff....2 doz prog 1-3-9-27 etc

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Wait for 1 doz to be 4 back. bet 1U on other 2. If in plus...keep going. When Doz hits, wait for trigger. (there may be one already waiting) and bet 1U on other 2 doz if a new high. If its not a new high, bet 3U. In the graph....bet 3 U was the highest the progression reached ...mabe 10%. All other wins were 1U.

don't think there is a giant trapdoor if you stop at 3U and never go to 9U....or at least never go to 27U. Its a 35U risk at the worse

[Stepkevh]

looks promising

[Johnlegend]

Having thought that "wait for 5 then  bet that backward dozen" doesn't work, "so bet the oposite"....back in June.....I tried this out based on that idea i had and all the other stuff I read in here. JLs stuff....2 doz prog 1-3-9-27 etc

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Wait for 1 doz to be 4 back. bet 1U on other 2. If in plus...keep going. When Doz hits, wait for trigger. (there may be one already waiting) and bet 1U on other 2 doz if a new high. If its not a new high, bet 3U. In the graph....bet 3 U was the highest the progression reached ...mabe 10%. All other wins were 1U.

don't think there is a giant trapdoor if you stop at 3U and never go to 9U....or at least never go to 27U. Its a 35U risk at the worse

You are in the right ballpark Turner, but you havent quite scored a home run. Nice thinking though.

[Turner]

hmmmm....I just made 17U and stopped when 3U failed. Im hit and running arnt I.
Im gonna get tarred and feathered by the mob

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[dino246]

No your not !!!

Velly interwesting.

Dino.

[Tamino]

*******hmmmm....I just made 17U and stopped when 3U failed. I'm hit and running arnt I.
I'm gonna get tarred and feathered by the mob*********turnerfeck,



No ,you should be  commended for  your wisdom: Losing 3  in a row it is time to go".


That is   what makes  you a real winner.

Winnings OVER Jackpots !!!

Tamino
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Stepkevh]

TF,

If i look at John's results it should be something like this.

Wait for the trigger of a dozen to be 4 back, then bet 2 opposite doz's.
If win, start new session or retrack for another doz to be 4 back.
If loss, rebet on same 2 doz's with the progr.
This can go upto 3 losses and a win on the 4th.

Stephan

[Roughy]

Nice idea 

What do you do when two dozens are 4 back though, if for example dozen 1 hits 4 times in a row? Like this: (number at the top is the last hit)

11
9
6
6
21
19
32

We would have been betting on 1st and 2nd dozens but 2nd dozen is now 4 back too. Do you just keep betting the last 2 dozens hit or change to just betting on the 1st dozen in the hope you get a nice long run?

Cheers
Roughy

[Johnlegend]

Nice idea 

What do you do when two dozens are 4 back though, if for example dozen 1 hits 4 times in a row? Like this: (number at the top is the last hit)

11
9
6
6
21
19
32

We would have been betting on 1st and 2nd dozens but 2nd dozen is now 4 back too. Do you just keep betting the last 2 dozens hit or change to just betting on the 1st dozen in the hope you get a nice long run?

Cheers
Roughy

We arent betting for a 5 with FIVE we are betting against it.

[Turner]

We aren't betting for a 5 with FIVE we are betting against it.

Roughy,

In your example, there arent enough numbers to make a judgement
11
9
6 <<<
6
21
19
32
And anyhow, when the 2nd 6 came out, it was a trigger because 3rd doz is 4 behind (32), and 9 is nice...its a win.
Turner

[Wally Gator]

TF,

If i look at John's results it should be something like this.

Wait for the trigger of a dozen to be 4 back, then bet 2 opposite doz's.
If win, start new session or retrack for another doz to be 4 back.
If loss, rebet on same 2 doz's with the progr.
This can go upto 3 losses and a win on the 4th.

Stephan

Here's 800 spins played using your rules.  Went to 81-81 once due to 0, but I would not have played it that way as I play the 0's and if win during a sequence I don't pursue the progression further.  This was played on a double 0 wheel.

[Wally Gator]

A possible progression for this is GLC's new post on "2 up zero down even chance".  Obviously play the double dozen prog as George outlined in his post.

[Ralph]

The  2/3 bet with a martingale is the worst and most difficult play. Find a hit in 5 trials or lose a number of units if not.

I have compared martingale with other progressions, using no tracking and stay static on two dozen. This can work for 1000 of spins. Last time I was using it was this morning, just to see how long it will take to make 50 units. 81 spins, highest progress 32 units.  Longest miss streak 7.

Still think 2/3 bets are very difficult. 7 and more miss is not so unusual. A bet selection which works very well is a must, if martingale 3 9 27 81.

[Johnlegend]

The  2/3 bet with a martingale is the worst and most difficult play. Find a hit in 5 trials or lose a number of units if not.

I have compared martingale with other progressions, using no tracking and stay static on two dozen. This can work for 1000 of spins. Last time I was using it was this morning, just to see how long it will take to make 50 units. 81 spins, highest progress 32 units.  Longest miss streak 7.

Still think 2/3 bets are very difficult. 7 and more miss is not so unusual. A bet selection which works very well is a must, if martingale 3 9 27 81.

With the correct FIVE you will get that strikerate. And 80 ppints is what I recommend to start. FIVE played properly requires some patience. There's a price for certain success. THE ZONE PERFECTED. Is more user friendly. And I am using it against BV. The buy in is just 4 units. The potential unlimited. As will be shown over the next 2 or more years.

From little accorns grow mighty oaks. I want to see if BV will just sit back and allow me to take hundreds of pounds from them. Once they realize I have them beat. This is the interest point for me.

Aswell as proving roulette is beatable longterm and making Superman and myself some nice profit along the way.

When I hit 3000 points you will get FIVE. But I feel its already been bettered.

[Turner]

John
Patience would mean trigger on 4 and if 5 loses (the sleeping doz hits) then look for a new trigger and 3u/3u on 5th not hitting.
The progression only on a trigger
Reading all your hints, progressing the same dozens after a loss makes no sense to the observation that the sleeper usually doest hit on 5.
Closer?