This may be similar to 5

[Stepkevh]

TF,

you could maybe right, never looked it that way :-)

[xxlakis]

Turner this  link:://xerxx.se/oops/stats/wtrp/wtrpsdc.html.

[Turner]

Turner this  link:://xerxx.se/oops/stats/wtrp/wtrpsdc.html.

Lovely lovely numbers....ill look proper when im not on this android
Thanks

[Johnlegend]

John
Patience would mean trigger on 4 and if 5 loses (the sleeping doz hits) then look for a new trigger and 3u/3u on 5th not hitting.
The progression only on a trigger
Reading all your hints, progressing the same dozens after a loss makes no sense to the observation that the sleeper usually doest hit on 5.
Closer? :wink:e

Not really Turner you are barking up the wrong tree. Youll have to wait to get the true picture. I'm concentrating on the Zone perfected at the moment as its more lucrative and user friendly than five. With lower risk. If it can beat a real money rng, it can beat anything.

[Ralph]

I made a search of JL, Mr J in old archive, and it is not the first time he claims a bulletproof way, he had before claim 100% sure of visual ballistic.

The archives is still on the net.

I do not argue he is wrong, but I wonder Why he is not using his old proven methods, instead of research, for new which seems to be not better.

[Turner]

I made a search of JL, Mr J in old archive, and it is not the first time he claims a bulletproof way, he had before claim 100% sure of visual ballistic.

The archives is still on the net.

I do not argue he is wrong, but I wonder Why he is not using his old proven methods, instead of research, for new which seems to be not better.

My view...
he is very confident in his ability to defeat roulette. This confidence will drive him on. If he is self driven, then he thinks more...tests more and most important, knows how to regroup and try again when he realises that his method wasn't as good as he thought it was.
I wouldnt be surprised if he admitted that he kinda likes it when it fails so he can go back to the drawing board where its most exciting.

I'm sure Muhamed Ali bragged equally the same in the build up to beating Jo Frazier than when he got beat by him. Its just self confidence.
See through all that and its just a productive poster who is generous with his ideas which are many.

Sounded like an obituary....sorry

[superman]

I made a search of JL, Mr J in old archive, and it is not the first time he claims a bulletproof way

Which is exactly why myself and others have heckled him for well over a year now, probably close to 2 years, hence the reason he is running the challenges from Bayes and now against BV in real money mode, sort of put MY money where your mouth is LOL, JL knows we are not being malicious in anyway, after all, we are all chasing the same thing, just sometimes posts get heated.

Sounded like an obituary....sorry

LOL yes, aww he was a good bloke LOL

[Tamino]

Mr J and leaning towards  Visual Ballistics ?When did that miracle happen? Snowman , the VB  specialist, would not believe this  180  degree about face.

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N.D.

[Johnlegend]

My view...
he is very confident in his ability to defeat roulette. This confidence will drive him on. If he is self driven, then he thinks more...tests more and most important, knows how to regroup and try again when he realises that his method wasn't as good as he thought it was.
I wouldnt be surprised if he admitted that he kinda likes it when it fails so he can go back to the drawing board where its most exciting.

I'm sure Muhamed Ali bragged equally the same in the build up to beating Jo Frazier than when he got beat by him. Its just self confidence.
See through all that and its just a productive poster who is generous with his ideas which are many.

Sounded like an obituary....sorry

Confidense comes with longevity of success Turner. If you beat something for over 8 years. You don't fear it anymore. You always give it some respect because as Superman says, that killer losing streak can be around the corner. I have known for several years I could beat a live wheel.

What I was never sure of was, could I beat an RNG. I now believe its possible so long as the RNG is playing fair. I am beginning to believe BV is a fair RNG in real money mode. Some sessions you have to work for the profit. Some sessions it lands in your lap. But what I look for overall is a common breakdown in win to loss ratio. And thus far there is absolutely no difference between a real wheel and BV RNG. And that is very, very good news. My goal is to see how far I can go with this. It means an incredible return for Supermans investment over the coming years, and myself.

I have started very cautiously, creeping up until I have 1000 won points on top of Supermans innitial investment of 2000. Then I will begin to increase the unit value of a point. Until at some point in time I am making over 20 pounds/euros per day.

If BV allow me to do this? I can't see them letting me take them to pieces for years to come. At the moment I am making pennies, no alarm bells are going off. By this time next year it will be another story.

I will say this to all of you. Once you have a method that works. It WORKS for alltime. It will have its bad days, minor setbacks. But overall there are no serious killer runs. IF, the method is worth playing in the first place. Its true that methods do crash and burn even after winning several thousand points. I have seen it. But if you are playing a method that doesn't fight random but instead flows with it. This will never happen. The revised ZONE is the way to go against RNGS. Five is excellent too. But as Bayes said a while back. He didn't like the look of that progression. And neither do I.

So I don't settle, as Still pointed out I am constantly morphing and pushing for the ultimate method. I have a few very good ones. Now I have an absolute gem. Everyone wants to know why am I now being so stingy about releasing these new ideas that have made me over 1700 points on an RNG. The reason is I want there to be no doubt that they are winners.

What used to happen was I would present a method on the forum and my results. Then someone else would get hold of it and report it as next to useless because for whatever reason they couldnt buy a win. So when Bayes first gave me the oppurtunity to show I can win I jumped at it. But there were to many flaws and question marks in the software. And too many were doubting that I am doing this fair and square.

So now Superman has kindly set up an infallible account with a well known online RNG at BV.And there will be no doubting what I will achieve over the coming years. The ultimate complement will be when BV eventually decide they can no longer put up with me fleecing them day in day out. And believe me that day will come.

But hopefully by then Superman and myself will have made a pretty penny. Or I should say pound. This is not an overnight show. Even when I reach 100,000 points there will be doubters. I know human nature well when it comes to this game. But what I am sure about is there will be a helluva lot more people who believe this game is for the taking by the time I am done. That is why I am doing this. Seeing is believing. The talk is over its time to show you all this game was always beatable. If the right mindset was applied to it.

[amk]

My Dads squadron motto was "Niet praten, maar doen"


"Don't talk, but do"


From what I have seen from an F-16 pilot is structure and consistent understanding. This is just on the ground I think JL plays at a very high understanding. 8 years and going.




How is your live playing going JL, how are the methods performing?


Look forward to updates on various threads as well.

[rayhd63]

........So I would bet against the last 4th fallen dozzen !! Is that correct ?!?

And what progression do you preffer ?!?  1-3-9-27

As I have read, it's advisable to stop after the 3rd lost bet.

Would be great if  someone could clear that up for me.

Thanks
Ray

[donik7777]

Great Johnlegend!
You'll get it.
Good luck!

[Robeenhuut]

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10091.msg89140#msg89140

We had the same idea  Turner.

[Johnlegend]

My Dads squadron motto was "Niet praten, maar doen"


"Don't talk, but do"


From what I have seen from an F-16 pilot is structure and consistent understanding. This is just on the ground I think JL plays at a very high understanding. 8 years and going.




How is your live playing going JL, how are the methods performing?


Look forward to updates on various threads as well.

Yes AMK Will update soon. Im currently only usimg Pattern Breaker and Hybrid DC4 from the previous methods. As FIVE and The ZONE perfected have entered the frame. I will update them soon. And when the time comes present the new two. That are going to take me to a different level. And particularly. The ZONE perfected. Its the one that can take any format without breaking the bank. Its potential will be shown against BV until the people that run the show either allow Superman and me to make a small fortune. Or close me down. Which one comes first we shall see.

[Ralph]

If they ever close you down, you will at least got 200.000 Euro before, I know its under the limit.
That casino pays out big amounts every day, and profit well  because of it, not the opposite.
Do not stretch the term of use ever!