One Dozen Plz ?

[Twisteruk]

Twister,please confirm i played this LIVE B+M session the BEST way,re your concept.

011
332 no bet due to zero
223 lost
331 lost
032 won 2nd bet
332 won 2nd bet
312 won 1st bet
111 won 2nd bet
131 won 1st bet
112 won 1st bet
303 lost
121 no bet due to zero
131 won 1st bet
113 won 1st bet
233 won 3rd bet
123 won 3rd bet
232 lost
311 lost
111 won 2nd bet
313 won 2nd bet
111 won 2nd bet
313 won 2nd bet

Interesting that i didn't wait for virtual 15 spins before betting and look what happened 2 losers
straight away !!!
There is no doubt your advice in your first post rings-true !!

Dino.

Sorry Im a bit tired but it looks perfect aside the Zero error which has already been pointed out, well done 

[Twisteruk]

Hope you don't mind twister,below are the same spins BUT with my twist on YOUR idea.

011
332 no bet due to zero
223 won 1st bet 2/3 dz
331 won 1st bet 2/3 dz
032 won 1st bet zero or 2nd bet 1/3 dz
332 no bet due to zero
312 won 1st bet 2/3 dz
111 no bet due to 3 diff dz
131 no bet due to 3 same dz
112 won 1st bet 1/3 dz
303 won on 2nd bet 1/2 (I always cover zero )
121 no bet due to zero
131 won 1st bet 1/2 dz
113 won 1st bet 1/3 dz
233 won 2nd bet 1/3 dz
123 won 3rd bet 2/3 dz
232 no bet due to 3 diff dz
311 won 1st bet 2/3 dz
111 won 2nd bet 1/3 dz
313 no bet due to 3 same dz
111 won 1st bet 1/3 dz
313 no bet due to 3 same doz

I always bet minimum £5 outside bets and cover zero every time as INSURANCE......hence NO losers to date on any session with dozens.I have had ONE loser with columns

Dino.

I like it, good job 

[dino246]

Many Thanks Twister.

I am off to watch Fools and Horses on BBC1 for an hour now so will return soon !!!!

All the best everyone,
Dino.

[Spin4Fun]

I tried also this method but got alot of losses in a live online casino.
Got more success by betting the dozen if it shows 2 times of 3 in previous spins.

[dino246]

To continue.....there are only 3 losing combinations,111,222,or 333 that can defeat a game if played using the TWIST version of Twisters concept.
I don"t include zero in a combination as i consider it a POSITIVE-INSURANCE bet as there is even more profit when it hits

Regards.
Dino.

[sniper]

Hello Twister,

Thank you very much for your system.

I tested using GLC's 2 up zero down progression for the single dozen and it seems to be holding very well.

I need to test further before playing for real.

Regards

[Twisteruk]

To continue.....there are only 3 losing combinations,111,222,or 333 that can defeat a game if played using the TWIST version of Twisters concept.
I don"t include zero in a combination as i consider it a POSITIVE-INSURANCE bet as there is even more profit when it hits

Regards.
Dino.

Do you prefer the Twist version ?

[Twisteruk]

Hello Twister,

Thank you very much for your system.

I tested using GLC's 2 up zero down progression for the single dozen and it seems to be holding very well.

I need to test further before playing for real.

Regards

No worries, ure welcome !

Can you explain that progression to me ? Thanx

[sniper]

Hello Twister,

GLC's progression for single dozen.

This post supercedes my post above on "2 up 0 down" for single dozens.

We play the single dozen or single column bets using all the same numbers as the even chance bet

but we multiply each number by 2.  That's because an even chance is a 1 to 1 payoff and a dozen

is a 2 to 1 payoff. The only difference is that we write down 4 of each number, representing

1 number for each loss when playing the dozens, instead of 2 of each number representing 1

1 number for each loss when playing the even chances.

And, we cross off 2 numbers for each win when playing dozens instead of 1 number for each win

when playing even chances.

If you think about this for a moment, you'll see exactly why we do this.

It has to do with the pay-out per unit bet ratio.

Illustration:  If we have no wins and 5 losses on the even chance bet our line will look like this:

1 1 2 2 3. (Remember, we are still only betting 1 unit because we don't have 2 wins yet.If we have

no wins and 5 losses on the single dozen bet our line will look like this:1 1 1 1 2.If we have no wins

and 10 losses on the single dozen bet our line will look like this:1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3.

Also, still only betting 1 unit because haven't had 2 wins yet.If we now have 3 wins in a row,

the above line will look like this:1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3.

We would be down -2 at this time because we lost 10 bets at 1 units each and won 2 bets at 1

with a 2:1 payout  netting 4 units and 1 bet at 2 units netting 4 units = 8 units.     -10+8= -2 units.

SAFETY BRAKES:

When we get something like this: 11223344556677889910 10,

it's time to incorporate the safety brake and start crossing off 4 number for each win instead of

only 2 numbers. Our safety brakes are:   At 10 we cross off 4 numbers for each win instead of 2.

At 15 we cross off 6 numbers for each win instead of 3.At 25 we cross off 8 numbers for each win

instead of 4.

This will exhaust our line more quickly giving us the opportunity to reset.

We will have to take a loss most of the time when we have to incorporate the safety brakes and

the larger a bet level we get to, the larger our loss will be, but it's necessary to give up some units

along the way rather than play each attack till death do us part.

The safety brakes don't come into play that often.

Most of the time we will reach a new profit before we lose enough times to reach 10 unit bets or

higher.When we reach 10 unit bets or higher, it means we are having a very bad session and we

should be happy to get out of it without losing our shirt.  Well, we might lose our shirt, but

hopefully not our pants too.

Regards

[dino246]

Yes,to your question Twister.
I never like losing games and to date with dozens = 100% hit rate ( provided zero is covered )
This 2 dozen Twist version would NEVER have seen the light of day without first being inspired by your 1 dozen concept.
I always like the hit-run-win way of playing....BOTH versions suit this.

Cheers.
Dino.

[Maui13]

Just a suggestion... there are more than enough combinations to give rewards here...


Why not skip the combo's of 111/222/333 as a dozen can hit multiple times in a row, and that would cause some havoc.Specially if you had something like...


111
222
111
333 etc.


Just a thought?


Regards
M

[Twisteruk]

Yes,to your question Twister.
I never like losing games and to date with dozens = 100% hit rate ( provided zero is covered )
This 2 dozen Twist version would NEVER have seen the light of day without first being inspired by your 1 dozen concept.
I always like the hit-run-win way of playing....BOTH versions suit this.

Cheers.
Dino.

Thats great to read 

[Stepkevh]

Yes,to your question Twister.
I never like losing games and to date with dozens = 100% hit rate ( provided zero is covered )
This 2 dozen Twist version would NEVER have seen the light of day without first being inspired by your 1 dozen concept.
I always like the hit-run-win way of playing....BOTH versions suit this.

Cheers.
Dino.

how much would your cover bet on 0 be ?

Stephan

[dino246]

Hi stephan.
If 5-5 then 1 on zero = profit of 4 = 80% profit ( better than a bank ).
If 15-15 then again 1 on zero.

On EVERY outside bet i have always covered zero as a Positive Insurance bet,long before i read all the debates on this forum whether it should be played or not,its funny the amount of times I've seen a croupier hit a zero on the last spin of a session !

Hope this all helps.
Dino.

[Ralph]

In what sense are zero more a threat hit at an outside bet than all other numbers not covered?
In some cases we will have half back on zero, but not on opposite outside. To guard black 2 is more sensible than zero if surrender rules apply,and we are betting red.

The outside bets EC and bets on more than half of the table is the best bet for the casinos if they
do not apply  the surrender rules. If we bet half or more bets of the possible winnings, the house edge has a larger amount to work on compare to the possible winnings. It is the same 2,7, 5,25 on outside bets as inside.

That one of the reason 2 doz bet have difficult to make winnings. The turn over are most of the time smaller on the inside bets, and then less subject to the unfair odds.