*****FIVE*****

[Johnlegend]

Introduction. This method came to be after something clicked in my mind while revisiting THE ZONE. When I was struggling against Bayes RNG in the early days of my challenge. With the ZONE we would wait until a dozen had slept for 4 consecutive spins then attempt to get a hit between spins 5--8 using a 1,1,2,3=7 points risk progression. What came to my mind was before you get to five there has to be a FOUR. And its the behaviour of these FOURS that enabled me to get up to over 2000 points with relative ease against an RNG.

THE RULES.

1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5
4--Trigger to bet.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.

3, We now bet against that dozen producing two consecutive 4 gaps again, by betting it becomes a five or more. So we bet on the other two dozens.

4, We repeat this process for up to 4 games using the classic 1,3,9,27 progression. What we are in effect doing is betting against 5 consecutive double FOURS forming. I have never seen more than four doubles in a row so far. And that includes when Zero has hit.

5, Tracking can take between 30---60 spins to get your game. On Bayes RNG this was easy as it was lightning fast. On a live wheel it will require more patience of course. But its solid. And I truly believe its RNG proof too. As I have won over 700 games in a row against them. As always all questions are welcome.

[amk]

Thanks JohnLegend!


Lots of questions etc.


Could you show an example of two dozens in play when "FOUR" is triggered for the start of FIVE?

[Johnlegend]

Thanks JohnLegend!


Lots of questions etc.


Could you show an example of two dozens in play when "FOUR" is triggered for the start of FIVE?

Hi AMK,

DOZEN 1------------DOZEN 3
6                               5
7                               8
4                               6
4----TRIGGER             4----TRIGGER TO BET AGAINST NEXT FOUR
                                 7----Win on step 1 of the progression....Betting on Dozens 1 and 2

Hope that helps a bit.

[Tomla021]

Ahh the Famous 5 --thanks John

[Johnlegend]

Ahh the Famous 5 --thanks John

You are welcome.

[Nickmsi]

Hi John . . .

Kindly clarify what is a  "4 gap"?

Thanks

Nick

[amk]

Perhaps I need to see all 3 dozens in play JL.


Am I right to say that the missing third dozen in your example will have a very low gap flow?


Might see some bets to play in the meantime 

[Johnlegend]

Hi John . . .

Kindly clarify what is a  "4 gap"?

Thanks

Nick

Hello Nick a four gap is the following
DOZEN 1 FOR EXAMPLE 11-22-24-31-5. Notice the first and last numbers from dozen 1 are 4 apart this is a 4 gap.

[Johnlegend]

Perhaps I need to see all 3 dozens in play JL.


Am I right to say that the missing third dozen in your example will have a very low gap flow?


Might see some bets to play in the meantime 

Hi AMK. You take them in the order they form. Its the first dozen to produce a 4 after your trigger that you will automatically select as your first attempt. Sometimes one dozen produces no FOURS. But several gaps greater than 4. Like the following example.

DOZEN 3
8
12
5
6
6
11
9---ETC

So as you can see there was nothing to play against with that example. Remember we don't count anything less than 4. Obviously there will be gaps of 1,2 and 3 forming all the time. Our attention is only concentrated on a dozen once it gets to 4. So for exampe DOZEN 2 may have produced the following results over 20 spins of the wheel.
1,3,3,2,4,1,1,1,4---We ignore everything except the two FOURS it has formed this becomes our game TRIGGER.

[Turner]

Thanks for submitting 5. I appreciate anyone who is generous with their ideas.

I think when you eat sleep and bath in an idea, you think you explained it fully. I dont think everyone will get your explaination.

Lets see if I got it.

17,1,2,33,34,19,22,33,4,4,36,24,22,13,33,bet doz 2 and 3,

Now.....my problem is this. The 2nd 4 is qualifiied by the red 24. Is the red 24 part of the further tracking or does it qualify the 2nd 4 and tracking is after. i.e in my example, where I bet Doz2,3, was I correct or was I one short

[donik7777]

 Thanks John! Now we will be test it,  but when we undertstand completely.

[GLC]

JL,  Thanks for sharing your idea.  It is simple and complex at the same time.  I know that once we see it in action it will clear up a lot of questions, and believe me we still have a lot of questions.

I know that a picture is worth a thousand words and also that a picture can take a thousand times as long to produce as words.  But, we need a picture for this one.

Maybe it would be easier to present the basic idea using 2's as the example instead of 4's.  Then once we fully understand the principle, we can adapt it to 4's.

GLC

[TwoCatSam]

Been giving this a lot of thought.  Thanks, John.

Trying to understand a "four gap" as that is step one for me.

Is it this?

1st dozen
any dozen not first
any dozen not first
any dozen not first
1st dozen.

OR

2nd dozen
any dozen not 2nd
any dozen not 2nd
any dozen not 2nd
2nd dozen.

OR

3rd dozen
any dozen not 3rd
any dozen not 3rd
any dozen not 3rd
3rd dozen

Is this much correct?

Sam

[GLC]

Sam, I'm gong to venture some thoughts below.  I hope they're on track.

With the ZONE we would wait until a dozen had slept for 4 consecutive spins then attempt to get a hit between spins 5--8 using a 1,1,2,3=7 points risk progression.
THE RULES.

1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger. 
Here's what I think this looks like when the spins are translated into dozens: 1 2 3 3 2 3 2 1 2 2 3 2 3 3 3 1 2 3 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 1.  As we can see we have a 1 doz and then 6 spins of the 2nd and 3rd dozens and then another 1 doz.  Then seven 2nd and 3rd dozen hits before another 1st dozen hits.  Then four 2nd and 3rd dozens spin then a 1st dozen, then four more 2nd and 3rd dozens spin, then a 1st dozen.  These last eleven dozens represent the two 4 gaps that gives us a trigger.  As you can see the last three 1st dozen spins have two sets of 4 each 2nd or 3rd dozen spins separating them.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5  This is where JL said we needed to have a gap greater than 4 because it's the same dozen; 1 doz.
4--Trigger to bet.  This is a trigger to bet because we have another 4 gap and we're going to bet that random doesn't give us another 4 gap.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.  Once we got four 2nd or 3rd dozen spins, we bet 1-1 on the 2nd and 3rd dozen and 1 of them hits, so we win.  Had we gotten a 1 dozen spin after the four 2nd or 3rd dozen spins, we would have had two back to back 4 gaps which is what we're betting against.
What we are in effect doing is betting against 5 consecutive double FOURS forming. I have never seen more than four doubles in a row so far. And that includes when Zero has hit.

Sam,  I think this is what JL is saying.  Another way to show it is the following:
123231232312323123231232312323123231232312323123231.  This is what we're betting against happening.  The 4 red 1's is where we bet on dozens 2 and 3.  The 1st red 1 we bet 1-1 on doz 2 & 3, the 2nd red 1 we bet 3-3, the 3rd red 1 we bet 9-9 and the 4th red 1 we bet 27-27. 

Now, I may not have all the factors involved in the above description, but I think that is the basic idea we're playing against.  As you can see, the odds of random throwing that pattern at us is pretty darn rare.


I think it can take a very long time between betting opportunities.  I don't doubt for a second that this has a very high strike rate.  I just don't know if I have enough years of life left to get a 100 wins before sailing off into the wild blue yonder.   :LoL:  It's a joke JL, kind a. Hehehe, LoL etc....

I could be off base, but maybe I included enough explanation that JL can clean it up for us without having to start from scratch.

Back to you JL,

GLC

[Robeenhuut]

"Hello Nick a four gap is the following
DOZEN 1 FOR EXAMPLE 11-22-24-31-5. Notice the first and last numbers from dozen 1 are 4 apart this is a 4 gap" quote from John

@GLC   I agree with you except above.   

This will require lots of spins. John estimate of 30-60 spins to get a game seems to be very generous.