*****FIVE*****

[Johnlegend]

     

Been giving this a lot of thought.  Thanks, John.

Trying to understand a "four gap" as that is step one for me.

Is it this?

1st dozen
any dozen not first
any dozen not first
any dozen not first
1st dozen.

OR

2nd dozen
any dozen not 2nd
any dozen not 2nd
any dozen not 2nd
2nd dozen.

OR

3rd dozen
any dozen not 3rd
any dozen not 3rd
any dozen not 3rd
3rd dozen

Is this much correct?

Sam

That's correct Sam

[Maui13]

And its the behaviour of these FOURS that enabled me to get up to over 2000 points with relative ease against an RNG.

Thanks JL for this method!


Gents - I think you guys are missing the point here of betting opportunities. The bold part at the top says clearly - RNG (yes this can be played live but at a spin between 45sec - 60sec....we'll all grow old) 


Ideally this should, in my opinion, be coded into a bot and let it tumble away at the nice and fast spins that can be produced on the RNG wheels!


Ciao
M

[Twisteruk]

I SOO dont understand this

Soz maybe Im bein dim (most likely) but my eyes just glazed over and my brain was like, "what??"

NOT attackin JL or the System just my ability to understand

[TwoCatSam]

Twister

See my post above where I outline the "four gap".  John says that explanation is correct.

Now we find what to do next.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Four gap established for Sam.

Now, an example:

1st doz
not first
not first
not first
1st again..............this is the first gap

1st doz
not 1st
not 1st
not 1st
1st doz................This is the second gap.......

Say, 2nd doz
not 2nd
not 2nd
not 2nd
2nd doz..............this is the "pre-trigger"??

TIME TO BET??

3rd doz or what???..........Is this the trigger??
bet one
bet two
bet three
bet four

Maybe?

Sam

[Maui13]

Uhm, I unfortuneatly fall in the "Twister" group.


Can someone put down 100 numbers and show how it happens.


Sorry!


M

[donik7777]

How I understood F.e. we have numers 6 15 33 19 10 17 30 22 28
6, - 1 dozen

15, -2 dozen
33, -3 dozen
19, -3 dozen

10, -1 we got trigger because we got 4 gap (between 6 and 10 space = 4)

17, - 2 dozen
30, - 3 dozen
22, - 2 dozen
       we bet against  the formation of second gap, another word against 1 dozen
28 -we win

And we can use any dozen
we wait ONLY GAP 

[Turner]

Uhm, I unfortuneatly fall in the "Twister" group.


Can someone put down 100 numbers and show how it happens.


Sorry!


M

If anyone reads what I post....which I'm not sure if they do LoL....I have been obsessing with a trigger.
The old "if a doz sleeps for 5, bet on it to hit" I said...its so bad, you may as well bet on it not to win.

So, when a dozen sleeps 4, bet it will sleep again....5!!!
I noticed that 4's don't sop there often.
So John is using this to say this.....
"if a dozen sleeps 4 times and that ends, twice, it won't happen the 3rd time."

so......1,1,2,3,2,3,1,1,3,2,2,1,3,2,3,3,1,1 1,2,2,1......and D3 won't stop sleeping on 4th, it will sleep on the 5th too. i.e bet D2,D1 that D3 will carry on sleeping.
( red was D2 sleeping 4 times)
I'm so confident its right...that I'm probably wrong!...LoL.

[TwoCatSam]

As I understand it...........

The same dozen must produce two consecutive "four gaps".

Then another dozen must produce one and you bet it won't produce two in a row as just happened above.

It would be a stretch for a body to be that unlucky.

Yes, Turner, I read your posts.

Sam

[Maui13]

Ok, NOW I understand! Kind of...


Sam - I agree. You would have to be the most unlucky b@astad... if that happened to you, AND it happened so often for you to make a loss.


There is 1 thing I still don't get though. If the progression is 1,1,2,3 = for a total of 7 units,
what dozen do you bet? We're betting that dozen 1 doesn't fall again, so we have to bet for dozen 2 and 3?


Am I the only one who is retarded today? 
John would you be so kind to clarify please?


Ciao
M

***EDIT - Nevermind - I am just being an idiot today. Read it properly and I understand now.

[Johnlegend]

Four gap established for Sam.

Now, an example:

1st doz
not first
not first
not first
1st again..............this is the first gap

1st doz
not 1st
not 1st
not 1st
1st doz................This is the second gap.......

Say, 2nd doz
not 2nd
not 2nd
not 2nd
2nd doz..............this is the "pre-trigger"??

TIME TO BET??

3rd doz or what???..........Is this the trigger??
bet one
bet two
bet three
bet four

Maybe?

Sam

You almost have it Sam. The thing is once you have the Double. Then the pre--game trigger. You stay with the same dozen until the oppurtunity to bet arrives. As Follows.

DOZ 1--4
              4----Double 4 gap game trigger

DOZ 2--4----Pre-bet trigger
              4---Now bet this becomes a 5 or greater by covering dozen 1 and dozen 3

You only attempt one bet per qualifier, so had that first bet lost. We would then wait for the next pre-bet trigger and move to step 2 of the progression 3--3. Here is an example of a game taken all the way to the 4th step this should help many of you grasp the concept better.
DOZEN 3--4
                   4----DOUBLE 4 GAP GAME TRIGGER

DOZEN 1--4---PRE BET TRIGGER ATTEMPT 1
                   4---BET ONE LOST AS IT STAYED A 4

DOZEN 3--4---PRE BET TRIGGER ATTEMPT 2
                   4---BET TWO LOST AS IT STAYED A 4

DOZEN 2--4---PRE BET TRIGGER ATTEMPT 3
                   4---BET THREE LOST AS IT STAYED A 4

DOZEN 2--4---PRE BET TRIGGER ATTEMPT 4
                   5---BET FOUR WON AS IT BECAME A 5

That is an example of a game played to the fourth and final step of the progression 27--27.
As you can see random has to show you 5 doubles in a row to take your progression. And played Hit and Run. I have 748 games no loss so far. Its never lost. I have seen a loss twice. Once for Dozens. And once for Columns. And as most of these results were drawn from playing an RNG. I am very satisfied with this.
             

[Wally Gator]

John, thanks for all your hard work on this.  I think the key here is that these 4 gaps have to be "consecutive", is that right?  How many opportunities are you finding in 1000 spin cycle?  Have you kept track at all?


Many thanks.

[Johnlegend]

John, thanks for all your hard work on this.  I think the key here is that these 4 gaps have to be "consecutive", is that right?  How many opportunities are you finding in 1000 spin cycle?  Have you kept track at all?


Many thanks.

Hello Gator. I have never waited more than 50---60 spins from tracking to Bet 1. Yes they are consecutive in the sense that you have to have 5 double 4 gaps in a row to be beaten. I am putting this method forward as playable live. But essentially an RNG beater. As it thrived against Bayes RNG. I know as GLC pointed out the method is both simple and complex at the same time. And that's because unlike the MATRIX METHODS. Where you have something in a set frame and can scrutinize it.

FIVE is unchained. Its allowing random to flow naturally. And as such can't be rushed. that's one of the reasons for its strength. I've said this a million times. If you can WAIT, you will WIN. FIVE is possibly the ultimate showcase of this. You can get a game in 30 spins. Or it might take 80. that's why its better suited to RNG. Everyone wants to know if RNGS are beatable. Well I know they are now so long as they are fair. Bayes is fair. And so is BV. I never really gave BV a proper look. Now I am glad I have.

My only gripe is TRACKING. If you could move the RNG without violating BV rules. In that you must not cancel bets. It would be a dream. And I would be a lot further along than I am at present. But the important fact is I now know I can beat a fair RNG in real money mode.. And it will be to Supermans and my benefit. Once the BR reaches 3 figures.

[Maui13]

I'm assuming Superman has already put this in a bot
...because that's what he does!


Kom Superman - wys jou muis! 


Regards,
M

[Johnlegend]

"Hello Nick a four gap is the following
DOZEN 1 FOR EXAMPLE 11-22-24-31-5. Notice the first and last numbers from dozen 1 are 4 apart this is a 4 gap" quote from John

@GLC   I agree with you except above.   

This will require lots of spins. John estimate of 30-60 spins to get a game seems to be very generous.

No Matt that's how its broken down. Remember, you never know what random will give you. I have had a game completed in less than 30 spins. And have had to wait as many as 80---90 on a few occasions. But the average has panned out around the 30---60 zone.