*****FIVE*****

[Johnlegend]

I posted a method about 5 gaps but for different dozens. So we bet against this happening DxxxxD
4 times in a row for any dozen. It went 6 times just once in around 700 bets on live wheel and air ball.  Its in Testing zone under "No wake up dozen bet" header.  I just got tired of testing it further but tracking was pretty fast. 

You should take it a bit more seriously Matt. There is serious potential here. I see it as an excellent sub bet while tracking FIVE. Because you don't know when a dozen will tag together 4 consecutive 4 GAPS. But I would be more than willing to risk 80 points against it tagging 8 consecutive 4 GAPS. And the reason for this enthusiasm is my years playing the ZONE. No dozen is EVER likely to go that long without at least producing a 5 GAP.

It could be even more solid than FIVE itself. But of course the price is that patience to wait for the 4 by 4 trigger. Those who have that patience are going to win some serious loot. Even an RNG has never shown me more than 6 in a row. 8? ? THE HOLY ONE. This is the kind of thing that should be bot tested. Random has limits I keep telling you all this. FIND THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I am surprised no one thought of running this idea againt 3 GAPS. They are more frequent than 4 GAPS. Could be the solution for LIVE WHEEL PLAY.

[F_LAT_INO]

[quote author=Johnlegend link=topic=10274.msg92282#msg92282 date=1348242572

And I am surprised no one thought of running this idea againt 3 GAPS. They are more frequent than 4 GAPS. Could be the solution for LIVE WHEEL PLAY.



--You wrong John,am traying to adapt it for live wheel/testing/but not on dozens but
Ninefoldozen/that is how I call it,9 numb.bets/and presently am at testing zone.

[Ralph]

The opportunity to bet can not be very often, it could of course be fixed with larger chips value.
The progressions is it to 27 or 81?
Then if you have 100% trust in it 100 Euro chips will do.

[Johnlegend]

The opportunity to bet can not be very often, it could of course be fixed with larger chips value.
The progressions is it to 27 or 81?
Then if you have 100% trust in it 100 Euro chips will do.

Ralph the opportunity to bet is enough especially on an RNG. The progression is the classic 1--3--9--27. 80 points on the line. I have alot of trust in it as I suspect anyone would if they had won over 850 times in a row as I now have. Most of them on an RNG.
I dont say it never loses because Ive seen a loss on columns and Dozens. I say that played hit and run its going to win very well. I am always happy if my 80 point risk can average 200/1 minumum. And everyone else should be too. But at the moment I am 867/0 And its looking like the first method I have ever played to give me 1000/1
You have to stop worrying too much about how long it might take. Worry about how long it will win. RNG is definately the way to go with this one. But I believe theres more scope in this idea to be investigated. You have to be willing to do the work. I cant do it for you. I can present an idea I know is killing this game right now. How you take it from there is completely up to you.

[F_LAT_INO]

Ralph the opportunity to bet is enough especially on an RNG. The progression is the classic 1--3--9--27. 80 points on the line. I have a lot of trust in it as I suspect anyone would if they had won over 850 times in a row as I now have. Most of them on an RNG.
I don't say it never loses because I've seen a loss on columns and Dozens. I say that played hit and run its going to win very well. I am always happy if my 80 point risk can average 200/1 minumum. And everyone else should be too. But at the moment I am 867/0 And its looking like the first method I have ever played to give me 1000/1
You have to stop worrying too much about how long it might take. Worry about how long it will win. RNG is definately the way to go with this one. But I believe theres more scope in this idea to be investigated. You have to be willing to do the work. I can't do it for you. I can present an idea I know is killing this game right now. How you take it from there is completely up to you.

Tell me John,are you playing fun mode RNG????Pressume you are.

Do you think you would have such results playing it real ??

Why not doing last and report back.

Am sure the results wont be same,,,what you think.

[Johnlegend]

Tell me John,are you playing fun mode RNG????Pressume you are.

Do you think you would have such results playing it real ??

Why not doing last and report back.

Am sure the results won't be same,,,what you think.

Flat I'm playing BV real money. And its no different to the Fun mode. Five can beat it just like it was beating Bayes RNG and the fun mode on BV. The thing is this flat. Its so hard for random to overcome this one. That any RNG that throws up loss after loss will definately be cheating. I have yet to try the playtech RNGs they are notorious for throwing up ridiculous results that you would grow old and die before seeing on a live wheel.

But BV is a fair RNG flat in real mode.

[F_LAT_INO]

All I can say is good luck....just don't trust em...

[donik7777]

Hello John!
What about pass first virtual lost? Because i know many player affraid big progression.
Cheers.

[Bcboilermaker]

Hi John.

I'm pretty i understand the method... Could you please clarify that once we receive our triggers and commence are betting,  we make consecutive bets until a win or loss?... Or would we make one bet and if we lose then start retracking for a new trigger?

[subby]

Sorry JL I just don't get it

Its me not you so don't worry, I'm sure most people wil get it and that's what matters


Cheers

+1 with you twister, no matter what I do to try and understand I can't :/ I'll persevere though....hopefully I@ll clock it

[Nickmsi]

Hang in there Subby and Twister . . . I have a Tracker done that John is currently checking for accuracy before I post it.

Nick

[donik7777]

Thanks so much Nick!
Can somebody  make simulating test Five and say how many times win?
1 step
2 step
3 step
4 step
Best regards.

[TwoCatSam]

1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.



My red..........

John,

The reason people thought you meant consecutive is because you used the word "consecutive".

People.......

Call me a grouchy old bastard if you will, but this is why I ask a hundred questions.  If you spend forty or fifty hours testing something and then find out you're doing it wrong.........

Well, it rankles my curd!!

Sam

[superman]

We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below

and then ?? when and what gets bet on and for how long

[Stepkevh]

if you follow Johns explanation it states,

after 2 consecutive 4 gaps (this is pre-game trigger) we track further till we got another (single) 4 gap.

this becomes the game trigger in that dozen. (were the single 4 gap is)

from the moment that this dozen makes a 3 gap you bet the other 2 doz's 1 time against the fact that your trigger dozen wont become a 4 gap.

but there is a point of interest,

IF after our 2 consecutive 4 gaps the next  single 4 gap falls in the same dozen there has to be a larger gap between it ie 2 x a 4 gap then a 5/6/7+ gap and then another 4 gap   4   4   6    4
then you can play that dozen after it goes in a 3 gap again against forming a 4 gap.

hope this explains it