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Started by Johnlegend, Sep 19, 03:43 PM 2012

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Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 22, 03:08 AM 2012
if you follow Johns explanation it states,

after 2 consecutive 4 gaps (this is pre-game trigger) we track further till we got another (single) 4 gap.

this becomes the game trigger in that dozen. (were the single 4 gap is)

from the moment that this dozen makes a 3 gap you bet the other 2 doz's 1 time against the fact that your trigger dozen won't become a 4 gap.

but there is a point of interest,

IF after our 2 consecutive 4 gaps the next  single 4 gap falls in the same dozen there has to be a larger gap between it ie 2 x a 4 gap then a 5/6/7+ gap and then another 4 gap   4   4   6    4
then you can play that dozen after it goes in a 3 gap again against forming a 4 gap.

hope this explains it :)
Well done Stephan, you have grasped it totally. Just remember though the GAME TRIGGER can be either of theses.

DOZEN 1--4--4

DOZEN 1-4--7--5--4

That was my error when explaining the method. And the reason Nick thought tracking takes forever.

Stepkevh

game trigger or pre game trigger ?

because i use nicks file also to test and dont get any trigger
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

for ex i see this in the file

1   2   3

5
     5
4
     4
5
          4
     5
5+
          5
4
     5+
          5+
     5+
5+
     5+
4
     4
5+
4
          5+
          4
5+

maybe you can better explain now what is first trigger and second one to start betting :)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Robeenhuut

So there is a tracker for it already?
Matt

Stepkevh

just making everything completely correct that its good in one time :)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Johnlegend

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 21, 05:46 PM 2012
All I can say is good luck....just don't trust em...
We will see Flat. At the moment there is absolutely no difference between REAL AND FUN modes. The only problem with BV is not being able to sit spins out. And having to lose points to move the rng. Otherwise its forward all the way. So I am guessing from your attitude you had a bad experience??

Stepkevh

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 22, 04:13 AM 2012
for ex i see this in the file

1   2   3                  i think i found it in the reply's what i was looking for

5
     5
4
     4
5
          4
     5
5+
          5
4                                1st trigger 2*4 gap in doz1
     5+
          5+
     5+
5+
     5+
4                                 2nd trigger doz 1start betting doz 2/3 after a 3 gap
     4
5+                               won, meanwhile another trigger in doz 2
4                                 another trigger in doz 1
          5+                     
          4                       another trigger for doz 3
5+

maybe you can better explain now what is first trigger and second one to start betting :)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 22, 04:13 AM 2012
for ex i see this in the file

1   2   3

5
     5
4
     4
5
          4
     5
5+
          5
4
     5+
          5+
     5+
5+
     5+
4
     4
5+
4
          5+
          4
5+

maybe you can better explain now what is first trigger and second one to start betting :)
In this example Dozen 1 produced the GAME TRIGGER. Why? Because it was the first dozen to produce TWO 4 GAPS. That is the point you must take onboard first.
Now, once you have identified your GAME TRIGGER. You now continue tracking until you get your PRE BET TRIGGER. This basically will be the first dozen to produce a 4 gap after the GAME TRIGGER.  Again this could happen on the SAME DOZEN that gave us our GAME TRIGGER. We then bet against that 4gap producing another 4 GAP consecutively. If it doesnt we have won the game.If it does. We continue tracking until another 4 gap forms on any of the three dozens.
We now bet using step two of the progression that this doesnt produce a consecutive 4 gap. If it doesnt we have won. If it does we now wait for the Next 4 gap on any dozen and go to step three of the progression. So we repeat this process for a maximum of 4 attempts. So far its been successful for 870 games.

DOZEN 3
7
4
6
4----GAME TRIGGER

DOZEN 1
6
4----PRE BET TRIGGER
4----BET ONE LOST as it became a consecutive 4 gap

DOZEN 3
4----PRE BET TRIGGER
6----BET TWO WON as it didnt become another 4 gap, game OVER.

Stepkevh

got it correctly now  :thumbsup:


maybe one last question.

why do we exactly wait for that 1st double 4 gap trigger and 2nd single 4 gap trigger ?

and dont start straight away betting after the verry first 4 gap ?
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 22, 05:28 AM 2012
got it correctly now  :thumbsup:


maybe one last question.

why do we exactly wait for that 1st double 4 gap trigger and 2nd single 4 gap trigger ?

and don't start straight away betting after the verry first 4 gap ?
Saturation, If you start betting after the first 4 gap you will lose your progression too often. If I'm being totally purist and honest. Even the non consecutive game trigger is a compromise. And the times I've seen a loss, they were the trigger.

Patience beats this game nothing else. Five pure double 4 gaps is very. Very hard for random to form. 8 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen equally hard.

You wait, you win. Its that simple.

Stepkevh

okay thx,

@ Nick, i think the tracker is okay then.
Hopefully there is'nt any mistake anymore :)

Stephan
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Johnlegend on Sep 22, 04:38 AM 2012
We will see Flat. At the moment there is absolutely no difference between REAL AND FUN modes. The only problem with BV is not being able to sit spins out. And having to lose points to move the rng. Otherwise its forward all the way. So I am guessing from your attitude you had a bad experience??


--Not me/as never play on line/but my friend/whom I scream every day not to play/
lost fortune on BV.......and he was always winning in fun mode.This should tell you
something.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Stepkevh

John,
still have a question that i cant solve whilest looking at the tracker.

lets say you got your trigger for betting on doz 1.
do you stay on doz 1 till you get your chance to actually bet against the 4 gap.
or do you jump to another trigger in another doz if on doz 1 form a few 1 and 2 gaps ?

ex.

1    2    3

4
      4
            5
5
      4
4                 here i got my trigger on doz 1
1                 doz 1 falls directly
                   do i stay on doz 1 until a chance for betting comes
2    4           or do i jump to this trigger in doz 2 ?
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

amk

Didn't code 4 go to 1000/1 JL?


I think BV will allow you to play for a longtime.




Johnlegend

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 01:33 PM 2012

--Not me/as never play on line/but my friend/whom I scream every day not to play/
lost fortune on BV.......and he was always winning in fun mode.This should tell you
something.
How much was he betting when he started losing on BV Flat. I'm only betting pennies at the moment so no alarm bells are going off. When I reach a point where I am winning several euro a session we will get the story. If it suddenly starts losing too frequently. Also your method has to be solid.

FIVE will beat any fair format of roulette. The parameters are asking random real or manmade to do too much.

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