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[Stepkevh]

John,

can you please answer on my reply 86 (previous page) so i can continue on the tracker

[Johnlegend]

John,

can you please answer on my reply 86 (previous page) so i can continue on the tracker

You take dozen 2 as your first bet in that example Stephan. Its ALWAYS the first dozen to present you with a 4 GAP. After the game trigger.

[Johnlegend]

Congrats on Five JohnLegend      Looking forward to your inside numbers system.

Inside numbers Proof?

[Johnlegend]

That said AMK.....when the big moment comes...in Code4, Divide and Conquer, 5..what ever,and we place our 1U on Doz 1 and 1U on Dozen 2 ..the odds of that bet winning are exactly and absolutly the same as that bet any other time you walk up to the Roulette table.

I track for 5 minutes looking for complex patterns and triggers, bet 2 dozens...or I say eeny meeny miny mo on my fingers to pick 2 Dozens...same exact winning chances.

This is where I'm uneasy with all this.

It reminds me of the difference between Astrology and astronomy.

(watch this space for Turners  eeny meeny miny mo system  )

I don't roll with that chain of thought Turner. The odds may in theory be the same. In the REALITY of random its getting harder and harder for it to produce that double. And the reason is its keeper. Mr probability is pulling it back into line. Like its saying youve shown us some 4s now I want some 5s or more. This I know from my years with the ZONE. It can't get around it. Its got to break back into producing 5 plus gaps at a certain frequency. And it always does. On that RARE occasion it doesn't. I will suffer my first loss. But how long that will take is anyones guess. In 882 games it hasn't broken the pattern. I need  80 wins to match a progression. And I have 11 times my progression so far.

[Stepkevh]

You take dozen 2 as your first bet in that example Stephan. Its ALWAYS the first dozen to present you with a 4 GAP. After the game trigger.

Then you need to have a good look at it

Doz 2 gave me the pre trigger 2 * 4 gaps
then doz 1 gave me the game trigger

then doz1 gives me a 1gap and a 2 gap and meanwhile doz2 gives me a 4 gap .

do i stay on doz1 till i get my 3 gap trigger to bet or do i jump to the new trigger in doz2

[Robeenhuut]

Like Amk said 24 reds doesn't happen often. But how would you turn that into a playable profitable method. You can't unless you sit there waiting for 14 reds and then start betting. Still risking several hundred points.

Its the same with a sleeping dozen. Its tempting to chase one when you see it sleep for 18 plus spins. Knowing the 30 spin barrier is rarely broken.

What I attempt to do is strike the balance between playable and invincible. The longer the wait, the surer the win.

I've known for years random struggles to produce certain things. FIVE is simply taking advantage of one of many.

8 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen is another to take advantage of. Even with random some kind of order must come. Otherwise there would never be certain breakdowns happening everytime I track spins.

Those gaps that random forms always come as sure as night follows day. You never see a hundred spins for example without gaps greater than 3. I can't happen. Probability is randoms keeper. And always pulls it into line eventually. FIVE is simply based around something random isn't very good at. Showing us FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE 4 GAPS. I would say to any interested in this method track the dozens and columns for this method. But play it in its strictest form. FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE 4 GAPS.

So your game trigger Must be for example.

DOZEN 1----4--4

COLUMN B----4--4

And you will get a faster turnover, without comprosmise. I've never seen or run into 5 consecutive double 4 gaps. Or 8 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen or column. These are virtual limits for random. Poimts that will be.breached very seldom. In the meantime we collect the profit.

I would like someone to bot test 8 consecutive 4 gaps pn a single dozen. Because I think its a very possible HOLY GRAIL. Even an RNG. Can't get past 6. Its got me curious.

From a statistical point of view 8 consecutive 4 gaps happen as often as 1 Dz hitting 8 times in a row so once in 6400 unless there is some other reason that 1 Dz behaves differently in some patterns. If there is other reason and you can find it then you have a Holy Grail.     Who knows?
Maybe RNG is our ally in this case.

[Johnlegend]

From a statistical point of view 8 consecutive 4 gaps happen as often as 1 Dz hitting 8 times in a row so once in 6400 unless there is some other reason that 1 Dz behaves differently in some patterns. If there is other reason and you can find it then you have a Holy Grail.     Who knows?
Maybe RNG is our ally in this case.

Hey Matt im curious is that you in the Avatar. You look like a ladies man, a player or something lol.

[Robeenhuut]

Hey Matt I'm curious is that you in the Avatar. You look like a ladies man, a player or something LoL.

Yeah  its me John. I need an extra income from gambling to keep up with it. 

[Johnlegend]

Then you need to have a good look at it

Doz 2 gave me the pre trigger 2 * 4 gaps
then doz 1 gave me the game trigger

then doz1 gives me a 1gap and a 2 gap and meanwhile doz2 gives me a 4 gap .

do i stay on doz1 till i get my 3 gap trigger to bet or do i jump to the new trigger in doz2

Stephan I want you to post the numbers as they dropped. then I can give you a precise anwser. Its impossible for me to know what came first when simply looking at the gaps on your chart. So give me the numbers and I will be able to give you a satisfactory reply, thanks.

[Johnlegend]

Yeah  its me John. I need an extra income from gambling to keep up with it. 

Lol, I like it. Yes women can be a strain on the pocket. 

[Robeenhuut]

LoL, I like it. Yes women can be a strain on the pocket. 

Apparently FLAT had the same problem.

[Johnlegend]

From a statistical point of view 8 consecutive 4 gaps happen as often as 1 Dz hitting 8 times in a row so once in 6400 unless there is some other reason that 1 Dz behaves differently in some patterns. If there is other reason and you can find it then you have a Holy Grail.     Who knows?
Maybe RNG is our ally in this case.

I don't know Matt. I think random can get stuck on one dozen 8 times in a row a lot easier than it can produce 8 consecutive 4 gaps. The reason being the number of spins involved. 8 times 4 is in effect 32 spins. What random has to do to produce that is take a dozen or column out of the order of things for quite a long time. Its also the symmetry of exactly 8 4s in a row. Its almost too perfect. So yes statistically certain things should be happening. But in reality I am not seeing them.

That's all, its an observation over thousands of played games that brings me to these conclusions.

[Johnlegend]

Apparently FLAT had the same problem.

Lol. I bet.

[Stepkevh]

sorry, dont have the numbers anymore but simulated something to get the same result what i'm talking about.

so do i stay on doz 1 till i get my bet trigger after 3 gaps or do i jump to doz 2 ?

hope its clear now

[Turner]

"That said AMK.....when the big moment comes...in Code4, Divide and Conquer, 5..what ever,and we place our 1U on Doz 1 and 1U on Dozen 2 ..the odds of that bet winning are exactly and absolutly the same as that bet any other time you walk up to the Roulette table."

This is what troubles me about all of these systems.  Turner is right. He can't spell "absolutely", but he's right in his meaning!

Lighten up, Bro.  That was TwoCat humor!

Sam

Sam
I have many foreign friends at work and every one of them can spell better than me