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Started by Johnlegend, Sep 19, 03:43 PM 2012

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Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 05:30 AM 2012
sorry, don't have the numbers anymore but simulated something to get the same result what i'm talking about.

so do i stay on doz 1 till i get my bet trigger after 3 gaps or do i jump to doz 2 ?

hope its clear now :)
Stephan what I am asking you is which dozen was FIRST to show you two 4 GAPS?

Stepkevh

Quote from: Johnlegend on Sep 23, 05:43 AM 2012
Stephan what I am asking you is which dozen was FIRST to show you two 4 GAPS?

just like in the picture doz 2 then doz 1 gave me the first single 4 gap
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 05:46 AM 2012
just like in the picture doz 2 then doz 1 gave me the first single 4 gap
Stephan my question is which gave you TWO 4 gaps first???

Turner

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 23, 05:18 AM 2012
Yeah  its me John. I need an extra income from gambling to keep up with it.  ;D
Your a bit of a looker robeen. I like your red top you are wearing

Johnlegend

Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 23, 05:49 AM 2012
Your a bit of a looker robeen. I like your red top you are wearing
Yes Turner he is the Brad Pitt of eastern Europe.

Stepkevh

Quote from: Johnlegend on Sep 23, 05:48 AM 2012
Stephan my question is which gave you TWO 4 gaps first???

dont i understand you're question or whats wrong  :question:

doz 2 gave me the first 2 pre-game trigger gaps then doz 1 gave me a single 4 gap as game trigger.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Bettor 27

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 05:30 AM 2012
sorry, don't have the numbers anymore but simulated something to get the same result what i'm talking about.

so do i stay on doz 1 till i get my bet trigger after 3 gaps or do i jump to doz 2 ?

hope its clear now :)

Hi Stepkevh,

Using your numbers, attached is my understanding of Johns bet

B 27


Stepkevh

bettor,

Yes thats it, i dont have a bet in doz 1 because of the numbers.
But the question is the following.
You see in your excel file that there comes a new trigger in doz 2...
Do we follow the trigger in doz 2 or do we stay on doz 1 until we get a betting opportunity ?

Stephan
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Turner

John....

i learned something today then....and I havnt spotted this in any of your work before (or anyones really)

The basic reported E/C's, dozens, streets etc and single number chances show (in the millions of spins we check) that they have a limit...a top end, for instance, red won't show more than 24 straight hits.

Actually, if we were lawyers, we would say "we have never seen Red repeat more than 24 times. We have never seen doz/col repeat more than 15 times"

So you are looking to see if some other undocumented pattern has a limit that we can monopolise on, other then the documented table bets.

its got me thinking....thanks.

Turner


Ralph

Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 23, 03:25 PM 2012
John....

i learned something today then....and I havnt spotted this in any of your work before (or anyones really)

The basic reported E/C's, dozens, streets etc and single number chances show (in the millions of spins we check) that they have a limit...a top end, for instance, red won't show more than 24 straight hits.

Actually, if we were lawyers, we would say "we have never seen Red repeat more than 24 times. We have never seen doz/col repeat more than 15 times"

So you are looking to see if some other undocumented pattern has a limit that we can monopolise on, other then the documented table bets.

its got me thinking....thanks.

Turner

For long time nobody have seen a human run 100 meters in 10 seconds.
All records can be beaten, every time anybody see 24 reds, its about 48% chance for a new record.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Turner

Quote from: Ralph on Sep 23, 04:25 PM 2012
For long time nobody have seen a human run 100 meters in 10 seconds.
All records can be beaten, every time anybody see 24 reds, its about 48% chance for a new record.
Ralph
I'm not saying I agree with what I said...or disagree...I'm just noting what JL is trying to do.

That said....comparing random to 100m race is abstract. Humans find better athletic diets and training..... track surfaces and running shoes. Training using computers. basically...technology and sport science.
Random is just random. i don't think it evolved in any way.

amk

Hello Ralph,


I don't know if any of us have ever seen 24 reds in live results. It might take several lifetimes for you to see this event.


This stat shows us that within the game there are thresholds for random. Ofcourse 60 red is possible. However, I think that 1 billion spins will not even reveal this event. My conclusion is that we can find such rare events (24 red) or events close enough to it, but in proportion. Within and perhaps in combination with smaller stats. We only need to create a small margin of success. FIVE is showing this.


Interestingly, during the Olympic 100 meters 6 out of 7 runners ran under 10 seconds, all but one. I think random has limits, for the moment :)


Perhaps it might be best to study dealer signature. Can be very effective....

Johnlegend

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 06:09 AM 2012
don't i understand you're question or what's wrong  :question:

doz 2 gave me the first 2 pre-game trigger gaps then doz 1 gave me a single 4 gap as game trigger.
Yes you would stay with dozen 1 as it gave you the pre bet trigger Stephan.

donik7777

Hello John!
Can you say how many times you won on from 895 games
1 step
2 step
3 step
4 step?

Greetings.

Ralph

Tellme if you ever saw
RRBBRBRBBRBRRRBBRBRRBRRRBB

You have less chance to see the above before you see 24 red.

The best way to fail, is not to try!

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