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[Stepkevh]

i attached an excel in the reply underneath it to visualize it a bit

[Ralph]

John....

i learned something today then....and I havnt spotted this in any of your work before (or anyones really)

The basic reported E/C's, dozens, streets etc and single number chances show (in the millions of spins we check) that they have a limit...a top end, for instance, red won't show more than 24 straight hits.

Actually, if we were lawyers, we would say "we have never seen Red repeat more than 24 times. We have never seen doz/col repeat more than 15 times"

So you are looking to see if some other undocumented pattern has a limit that we can monopolise on, other then the documented table bets.

its got me thinking....thanks.

Turner

Who has seen more than 24, not I but very close to today.
Pity I did not get just one more, a record then?

[Johnlegend]

Hi John

Came across my first loss in testing.

At least I think its a loss and the data is from Wiesbaden January 2010.

Just wanted you to check over the data (attached) to confirm it would have been an actual loss.

Regards

B 27

Its a loss. But I dont like testing against static results. Eventually you win find a loss. But in real play it never works that way. If anything is going to give you a loss first its always Columns. There is a difference between them and Dozens. It is the same when I play the zone.

What I would like you to do Bettor is see what is the MOST consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen or COLUMN. You can track down. That has me more curious than anything. Because so far I have never even seen a single 7. And I am gearing up to run that as a method of its own. With 8 being what we dont want to see very often thanks.

[jordan69]

Sure wish someone would post some clear, concise, and accurate instructions.  Sure would help if the dozens were A, B, and C and something like this was posted:

1.....A
32...C
13...B
14...B
12...A

7.....A
35...C
21...B
36...C
3.....A

Now there we have two four gaps in the first dozen.  Some kind soul post what should happen next.

Sam

1.....A
32...C
13...B
14...B
12...A

7.....A
35...C
21...B
36...C
3.....A => two 4 gaps, pre-trigger.


23...B
11...A
33...C
29...C
13...B => second trigger


24...B
11...A
10...A
36...C
30...C => we bet there 1 and 3 dz, in order to avoid a 4 gaps. spin is 30 so we won 1 unit.
23...B       5 gaps, end.


Examples are VERY important ! 
Hope i'm on the right track !


Best regards.


Jordan69

[amk]

Who has seen more than 24, not I but very close to today.
Pity I did not get just one more, a record then?

Sorry to distract from FIVE JL.



After how many BV spins did you see this event Ralph?

It is 100% guaranteed with a bot test on BV, or live bot play for that matter. How many players have seen 24 reds or blacks during LIVE play? If it happens to 50% of all players on this forum then it would be interesting as nobody mentions this. Only LIVE play (and yes you could just look up the Monte Carlo record, that was actually 26 )



If this happened after 100,000 spins or less then it is quite a coincidence as we had just been discussing it.

It also looks like you had one of the most unique number arrangements.


34                34
5
18
30      30
30      30
34                 34
23                               23
23                               23
32                                        32  (after 23 twice?)
7                          7
1       
19
7                           7
27
7                           7
30      30               
30      30
30      30
34                34   
30      30   
7                           7
3
34                34
18


Is it always when numbers repeat that long chains of reds or blacks will be seen (series)? If numbers don't repeat as much will there be less?

[subby]

Who has seen more than 24, not I but very close to today.
Pity I did not get just one more, a record then?

In casino Tropez RNG roulette I've had black hit 28 times as it busted my BR and I continued to, through my rage at losing, track to see how far it got...I busted out on hit 23 but it just kept hitting black for a total of 28 times...

[subby]

1.....A
32...C
13...B
14...B
12...A

7.....A
35...C
21...B
36...C
3.....A => two 4 gaps, pre-trigger.


23...B
11...A
33...C
29...C
13...B => second trigger


24...B
11...A
10...A
36...C
30...C => we bet there 1 and 3 dz, in order to avoid a 4 gaps. spin is 30 so we won 1 unit.
23...B       5 gaps, end.


Examples are VERY important ! 
Hope i'm on the right track !


Best regards.


Jordan69

You were tracking A at the beginning, why start to track B? I still can't get my head around this system and it's doing my head in 

[amk]

Hello Subby,


Thanks for sharing this.


But again, this is RNG BV, after how many spins??


I would like to see LIVE play stories. (RNG results are important to)


Maybe I'll start a +24 EC Club thread








Last you'll hear about this JL, just focused on FIVE here now.

[TwoCatSam]

24...B
11...A
10...A
36...C
30...C => we bet there 1 and 3 dz, in order to avoid a 4 gaps. spin is 30 so we won 1 unit.
23...B       5 gaps, end.

Jordan

Thank you very much for your example using my post.  I'm a little confused on the red, but I drove 500 miles today and am not at my best.

Study it more when I can.

Thanks again!

Sam

[donik7777]

Very hard for random make complicated figures consistently many times. There is a treasure.

[TwoCatSam]

Jordan

Your example:

30...C => we bet there 1 and 3 dz, in order to avoid a 4 gaps. spin is 30 so we won 1 unit.
23...B       5 gaps, end.

What if the red had been another A or C?  Would you bet again or is it a one-time bet only?

Sam

[Stepkevh]

sam, its a one bet only.

if the 30 C had become 25 B he had lost his bet and retrack for another opportunity.

the 23 B doesnt matter because he has won his bet and it can even go further and produce a bigger gap
like 6, 7, 8 or more gaps.

[Stepkevh]

  not good to answer when you're just awake 

my previous post said 25 B come on 25 is C 

it should be 23 B  or some other number in doz 2

[Ralph]

First time I saw 24 reds, it will take many years for the casino in Monte Carlo as the speed of spins are slow. I was using autospin, making 10000 of spins that day, and I make during my play far more spins than any table in a land casino.  That is why some think RNG is different than live, the difference is speed, you will see more.

At BV you can stake 0.01 Euro and put autospin on, making  about 1300 spins/hour.

[Robeenhuut]

Its statistics 101.  The bigger the sample the more probable is to see a rare event.  Just look at the stats of 1M spins. You will see that events that have 1 in 1 Million chance of happening like for example 20 Reds in a row, happened at least once.  Unfortunately its the reason that all systems fail the test of 1M spins.