*****FIVE*****

[xeo]

JL are these examples correct?
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[atlantis]

I have not joined in so far in the discussion of FIVE because I am still grappling to understand the full and correct rules of play regarding the triggers. JL's results for this method are very impressive. I would like to begin playing for real and try and get similar results but as yet I am still a little confused about the different rules for the bet trigger.
I hope the tracker can be made to work perfectly and will be in line with the full and latest rules that John has given. I also hope that some further examples can be shown.

A.

[Johnlegend]

I have not joined in so far in the discussion of FIVE because I am still grappling to understand the full and correct rules of play regarding the triggers. JL's results for this method are very impressive. I would like to begin playing for real and try and get similar results but as yet I am still a little confused about the different rules for the bet trigger.
I hope the tracker can be made to work perfectly and will be in line with the full and latest rules that John has given. I also hope that some further examples can be shown.

A.

Atlantis I will give you examples for every possible game and bet trigger later today to clear up this confusion over what constitutes a qualified game. I should have taken this into account when drafting the rules. Unlike matrix methods where you have preset parameters of play. FIVE relies on random totally for its games.

[Johnlegend]

Okay I am going to give several real played game examples of what qualifies a game of FIVE. Since my poor explanation of tracking triggers has left more than a few members dazed and confused. I will do my best to finaly nail this important aspect of the method.Using the numbers recorded then a diagram of how they look.

EXAMPLE 1---And the most misunderstood possibility.

12/34/35/16/07/30/01/21/27/03/17/30/04/20/34/17/08/07/12/09---GAME OVER.

-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------04-----03----------BET TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----02------03-----03
-----03------03-----03
-----03------02-----03----------GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----04------05-----05----------WIN BET 1 DOZEN 2 AS IT DID NOT BECOME A 4 GAP.

As you can see The BET TRIGGER was formed before the second part of the GAME TRIGGER. This often happens. But because we require a DOUBLE 4 GAP. To trigger a game. Both Dozen 1 and Dozen 2 remain contenders for the game trigger until one of them produces the second consecutive 4 GAP. There can be times when neither will become a GAME TRIGGER.
I have had incidences where all three dozens have formed a single 4 GAP. And NONE of them have gone on to form a second to make the game trigger. It happens. Because we have to wait on random with FIVE. It can't be rushed.

[TwoCatSam]

John

I'm really trying to see the light, but two things confuse me.  I am putting this thing into a format I can understand.

Question one:  Was the 9, the last number in your trot, the winning number/dozen?
Question two:  Your bet description baffles me.  I will write it out:  +WIN BET 1 DOZEN 2........."  Does this mean you bet dozen 1 and 2?

Sam

Anyone understand this?  Anyone at all??

[Johnlegend]

John

I'm really trying to see the light, but two things confuse me.  I am putting this thing into a format I can understand.

Question one:  Was the 9, the last number in your trot, the winning number/dozen?
Question two:  Your bet description baffles me.  I will write it out:  +WIN BET 1 DOZEN 2........."  Does this mean you bet dozen 1 and 2?

Sam

Anyone understand this?  Anyone at all??

Yes Sam number 9 was. Question 2. No it means the first bet won because Dozen 2 didnt produce another 4 GAP. Maybe I should say step 1 dozen 2. As its the first step of a possible 4 step progression.

[SamNL]

I'm up +9 playing with dimes (+90 if I was playing with euro's) Never got to the 4th step yet. Highest was 3rd. I'm playing at BV NZ

[TwoCatSam]

*****Dozen 2 didn't produce another 4 GAP.*********

OK, let me work on that.

Thanks

Samster

[kevint3]

As you can see The BET TRIGGER was formed before the second part of the GAME TRIGGER. This often happens. But because we require a DOUBLE 4 GAP. To trigger a game. Both Dozen 1 and Dozen 2 remain contenders for the game trigger until one of them produces the second consecutive 4 GAP. There can be times when neither will become a GAME TRIGGER.

Ahhhh now i see...this throws a bit of a monkey wrench in. I thought we look for the BET TRIGGER AFTER the first double 4 gap is formed....but you are saying after the first double 4 has  formed to look back and we may find the bet trigger already had formed a single 4 GAP if not ..then continue spinning until you do find one...as always the more I read this system the more it changes or I realize the  less i understand it.

Also can the BET TRIGGER form before  even the first 4 gap of the GAME TRIGGER or no?

[Johnlegend]

Yes the bet trigger could form before the GAME TRIGGER. Doesn't happen often, ill give a game example of this later. The most crucial rule. Is there's no bet until one dozen shows you your GAME TRIGGER. As soon as you have it you look to see another 4 gap. And at the first oppurtunity you bet against it becoming a double. Random can delay your bet by forming several short gaps between BET TRIGGER and first bet.

[kevint3]

JL--

As always very interesting....now...have you ever seen this?  say...single 4 gap forms in dozen one...then few spins later single 4 gap forms in dozen 2...now...continue playing and the double 4 gap game trigger forms in dozen 3. At this point what would be your first bet? I guess to answer my own question it would be the next dozen to form a potential 4 gap to trigger the bet.....is this correct?

Our casino has the Bally's touch screen RNG machines. Min bet is USA $1. I am going to track 20 or so games before I do any kind of serious betting. I will post pics and results here.. that 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27 progression is a killer though...may have to tweak that.

[Johnlegend]

JL--

As always very interesting....now...have you ever seen this?  say...single 4 gap forms in dozen one...then few spins later single 4 gap forms in dozen 2...now...continue playing and the double 4 gap game trigger forms in dozen 3. At this point what would be your first bet? I guess to answer my own question it would be the next dozen to form a potential 4 gap to trigger the bet.....is this correct?

Our casino has the Bally's touch screen RNG machines. Min bet is USA $1. I am going to track 20 or so games before I do any kind of serious betting. I will post pics and results here.. that 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27 progression is a killer though...may have to tweak that.

Yes thats right The. Double 4 GAP is a go. I now understand why these  triiggers are confusing people. There are several ways you can get a game.

[Stepkevh]

in fact its as easy as saying.

when you see a third 4 gap then you have the bet trigger at the following 3 gap

[TwoCatSam]

in fact its as easy as saying.

when you see a third 4 gap then you have the bet trigger at the following 3 gap

May I add something?  OK!

When you see a third 4 gap and it is a different dozen that the other two 4 gaps OR it is in the same dozen with a five gap between the first and second 4 gaps, then you have the bet trigger at the following 3 gap.  However the third 4 gap you see may not be in the dozen you eventually bet against.  It may be after the "Bet Trigger".

Who can make it more confusing?

Sam

[Stepkevh]

i already had a lot of work on the triggers in the tracker.

these last changings change it completely