*****FIVE*****

[TwoCatSam]

Yes, you have.  And it should have been made clear on day one.  Wouldn't blame you if you shucked the whole thing.

Sam

[xeo]

Johnlegend can you please answer on my reply #270

[Johnlegend]

i already had a lot of work on the triggers in the tracker.

these last changings change it completely

The golden rule is simple. I may have made a hash of explaining the various times a BET TRIGGER can form. But one thing that is rock solid and the most crucial factor for success. You do not bet until a dozen gives you your GAME TRIGGER. This method is harder to explain than anyother I have posted. Because of the various times a BET TRIGGER can come into play.

But that may be the very thing that makes it virtually impregnable against random. Random simply doesn't have a lot of interest in forming many of these DOUBLE 4 GAPS. It can't the vast majority of the time. Sam says why is one dozen more likely not to come than one of the other two. You have to stop thinking in the old sense.. It doesn't relate to FIVE. If you were betting straight off the layout. And you saw 6 reds. You might start betting for a black. Thinking a change is due.

The old thinking is but hang on a minute the wheel has no memory. It doesn't know it just hit red 6 times. It may hit red another 20 times. Yes it might. But how likely is it to do this? Not very likely at all. Now you know why FIVE WORKS. Its almost as hard for random to show you five consecutive double fours as it is to show you more than 25 reds.

The difference is, you will get a lot more play with FIVE. that's all I ever do. Find things that random struggles to do and exploit them. That's all a good method does.
But random doesn't do things exactly when we want it to. That is the problem for people trying to grasp FIVE. All I can say is you must see this example

DOZEN 1
2
4
3
4----GAME TRIGGER

Before you can have a game. Once you have your double. You simply look for the first single 4 gap WHEREVER and WHENEVER it was formed and bet it STAYS SINGLE.

EXAMPLE 1
-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------03-----07-------BET TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----02------04-----08
-----03------04-----04-------GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----02------16-----03
-----07------05-----02-------WIN STEP 1 DOZEN 1 AS IT didn't DOUBLE UP

Now in this example the eventual BET TRIGGER formed before the GAME TRIGGER. So to get this straight the BET TRIGGER. can form before, in the middle and after the GAME TRIGGER has formed. You must understand this first to grasp the method.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR FIVE 04/10/2012

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 1005

TOTAL GAMES WON 1005

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 100%

BALANCE 1005 POINTS PLUS.

This is a first for me. The first time I have ever won over a 1000 games in a row. Over the last 20 days FIVE hasn't even tested me. BV is not even challenging the method at the moment. Neither are live wheels. Only Bayes RNG really tested it on several occasions. So I can see this method never going worse than 400/1 And that's more than good enough for me.

[kevint3]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR FIVE 04/10/2012

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 1005

TOTAL GAMES WON 1005

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 100%

BALANCE 1005 POINTS PLUS.

This is a first for me. The first time I have ever won over a 1000 games in a row. Over the last 20 days FIVE hasn't even tested me. BV is not even challenging the method at the moment. Neither are live wheels. Only Bayes RNG really tested it on several occasions. So I can see this method never going worse than 400/1 And that's more than good enough for me.

All I can say is "WOW"

[dino246]

John.

Have you kept a record of how many spins it took to reach 1005 games ?

[donik7777]

And how many times you reach 3 and 4 step progression?

[atlantis]

Hi JL,

Congratulations on breaking the 1000+ barrier without A SINGLE LOSS!!

I have being following your attempts to explain FIVE and also your examples and I like to think I got it now - at last! However, there's still a nagging doubt and I'm not altogether 100% positive or confident just yet to begin real play - so please do continue to post more of your examples so that we can follow and scrutinize them. I'm hoping that after viewing some more of your recorded actuals that the penny will drop and any remaining doubts or confusion as to the tracking/bet triggers etc. will all be eventually covered so that we are left with a crystal clear understanding of the full, correct and proper way to play your creation.

Good luck on the next thousand

A.

[SamNL]

WOW! Congratulations John!


At the moment I'm at +100 at BV NZ and never gone to the 4th step. Highest is 3rd

[kevint3]

Ok..but to play Devils Advocate....

I am fairly new to the game so forgive me if this is a dumb question/statement.

But......

Just blindly (no "system involved") betting on 2 different dozens at the same time through a 4 step progression....now wouldn't that alone give you a high strike rate?

[superman]

Just blindly (no "system involved") betting on 2 different dozens at the same time through a 4 step progression....now wouldn't that alone give you a high strike rate?

How blindly? would you first decide on a set of bets before you started a session, example

bet 1,3 then 2,1 then 2,3 then etc etc

or do it on the fly, thing is, human nature would not work properly on the fly as we would already have a result thus making it more of a "if that just happened, I'll bet the other 2" type decision.

You would probably get a high strike rate but you would eventually get a bad run, even drawing numbers out of a bag, 1 2 3 the number out will be the one you bet against, try it and report back.

[SamNL]

I'm still wondering about 1 thing.


John, what would be the minimum bankroll you recommend if we would play with 1 euro/dollar/pound?

[Johnlegend]

WOW! Congratulations John!


At the moment I'm at +100 at BV NZ and never gone to the 4th step. Highest is 3rd

Yes Sam I had a good run not going beyond the third step. Today in the 10 games I've played. I was taken to the 4th step once at BV. But for the 70th time in 1015 games. Random has refused to show me 5 consecutive doubles.

[Johnlegend]

I'm still wondering about 1 thing.


John, what would be the minimum bankroll you recommend if we would play with 1 euro/dollar/pound?

That's a good question Sam. At the moment 80 for me LoL. Would appear to be enough. I would say 240 should do it. And if you get on a good roll even 400 wins to every loss. You have the dream. I've had an amazing run. Of course it has to lose at some point. In the longterm I am hoping for about 400/1. But something tells me that playing as I do Hit and Run. There will be times when you get these mega runs. I can't see this being the only time I will rack up a four figured run. I may have two close losses after this one. But its already turned over more than 11 progressions.

Its a winner no question about it.

[Johnlegend]

And how many times you reach 3 and 4 step progression?

Have to wade through results to get that data. I can tell you I have been taken to the 4th step 70 times out of 1015.

[Johnlegend]

Hi JL,

Congratulations on breaking the 1000+ barrier without A SINGLE LOSS!!

I have being following your attempts to explain FIVE and also your examples and I like to think I got it now - at last! However, there's still a nagging doubt and I'm not altogether 100% positive or confident just yet to begin real play - so please do continue to post more of your examples so that we can follow and scrutinize them. I'm hoping that after viewing some more of your recorded actuals that the penny will drop and any remaining doubts or confusion as to the tracking/bet triggers etc. will all be eventually covered so that we are left with a crystal clear understanding of the full, correct and proper way to play your creation.

Good luck on the next thousand

A.

I cant believe I will win another thousand Atlantis. That would be unreal. I am looking for 400/1 long,long term.. I will be delighted with that. I hope you will eventually grasp it. Atlantis. Because MATRIX VERTICAL 5 had something to do with this method. And you and Twister were a part of that.
I know the BET TRIGGER is the main culprit of confusion here. All I can say to those who have yet to get this is. The BET TRIGGER can come BEFORE, IN THE MIDDLE OR AFTER THE GAME TRIGGER. If you keep thinking that over it might click eventually. I will also try to illustrate this with all the possible bet scenarios.