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Started by Johnlegend, Sep 19, 03:43 PM 2012

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Johnlegend

Quote from: dino246 on Oct 04, 09:24 PM 2012
John.

Have you kept a record of how many spins it took to reach 1005 games ?
No Dino games can be over in 20 spins or go to 70 to 80. As I have said venturing into the world of virtual roulette. I needed a method that could take an RNG. I think I have it with FIVE.

kevint3

JL-

Do you ever cover the zero in any of these bets "just in case"?

Johnlegend

Quote from: kevint3 on Oct 05, 03:27 PM 2012
JL-

Do you ever cover the zero in any of these bets "just in case"?
No not for five. Many of my lost steps were as a result of zero. I have total faith in randoms inability to show that formation, Even with the help of ZERO. It hasn't taken my progression in 1015 games. That is saying something. Robeenhutt doesn't want to hear this, But its the truth RANDOM HAS VIRTUAL LIMITS. It really does. And its the way you beat this game longterm without having to risk a fortune and keep everything crossed.

SamNL

I still have 1 question John, after you have lost a step in the progression, do you retrack or use the previous numbers?

Johnlegend

Quote from: SamNL on Oct 05, 03:41 PM 2012
I still have 1 question John, after you have lost a step in the progression, do you retrack or use the previous numbers?
Not sure by what you mean by retrack Sam. I simply continue recording spins until I am presented with the next 4 GAP. That automatically becomes the next bet.

-----D1-----D2-----D3
-----04------03-----02
-----04------02-----09-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 1
-----06------09-----05
-----05------04-----06-----BET TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----03------04-----05-----STEP 1 DOZEN 2 LOST
-----04------05-----04-----BET TRIGGERS DOZEN 1 AND 3
-----06------07-----03-----STEP 2 DOZEN 1 WON
As you can see in this example after the GAME TRIGGER we get three BET TRIGGERS. The first one is dozen 2 and we lose as it doubles up. The second one is dozen 1 and it wins as it doesn't double up. The third trigger dozen three is null and void as our game is over.

TwoCatSam

Quote from: Johnlegend on Oct 05, 02:39 PM 2012
Random has refused to show me 5 consecutive doubles.

Again, obfuscation!!  What is 5 consecutive doubles?  The winning "four gap" came after three other "four gaps" had formed.

Why do you not stick with the same language?  Why constantly change?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Twisteruk

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 05, 04:03 PM 2012
Again, obfuscation!!  What is 5 consecutive doubles?  The winning "four gap" came after three other "four gaps" had formed.

Why do you not stick with the same language?  Why constantly change?

Sam

I THOUGHT THIS TOO 

I just didnt have it in me to pursue this anymore.......Night !


Its Set In Stone =)

SamNL

Quote from: Johnlegend on Oct 05, 03:54 PM 2012
Not sure by what you mean by retrack Sam. I simply continue recording spins until I am presented with the next 4 GAP. That automatically becomes the next bet.
Thanks John, that's all I needed to know

Johnlegend

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 05, 04:03 PM 2012
Again, obfuscation!!  What is 5 consecutive doubles?  The winning "four gap" came after three other "four gaps" had formed.

Why do you not stick with the same language?  Why constantly change?

Sam
Sam I don't think you will ever get this method. If I'm talking about a double 4 gap. And I say 5 consecutive doubles. It should be obvious what I am saying.

------D1-----D2-----D3
------04------05-----04
------04------06-----04
------05------04-----03
------04------03-----05
------04------04-----04
------06------03-----02
------03------07-----04---------THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLES

I haven't run into this for 1015 games. FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE 4 GAPS. Study it and study it again. No rocket science or obfuscation Sam. Some understand it some don't. But its not that complicated.


kevint3

Five consecutive doubles is what we are betting against...you are "letting" random produce the first double 4 gap which is the game trigger.  When you have that you always, in each progression, "let" random produce a single 4 gap and just when it produces a 3gap with a potential for a four gap you bet that it won't.

So 5 double 4gaps  in my view is (1) the double 4 gap that starts the game
and (2) to (5) is the progression. John has never seen 5. Thus the name.

Thats my take.


donik7777

GAPS is 66,6% and like winkel explain about sixline in dozens same gaps but amount next hits more than before in 2 times.
F.e. in 1000 spins  I take these NUMBERS  FOR  EASIER   EXPLAIN
3 gaps  hits 150 times amount 4 gaps and more be aproximatelly 300
4 gaps hits f.e. 100 times amount 5 gaps and more be aproximatelly 200
5 gaps -70 times amount 6 gaps and more be 140.

Thats why random cannot make same gaps  long time which ones less in 2 times than longer gaps. Because JL didnt see still lost, but lost have to be, anyway that method very strong.
And we can use any gaps 5, 6 or 7 there be same results but more trigger. 66,6% can reach 15-20 gaps sometimes . I thinking better use gaps from 4 untill 9 this come more offen.   

TwoCatSam

John

You finally did it!  I wondered when you would.

You have obfuscated and changed terminologies, names and distances and when challenged--well, the challenger is just not smart enough to figure it out

You are the Emperor with no clothes.

Donik

If you have five reds in a row, the sixth spin is a whole new world.  Could be in a casino half way round the world.  Random starts anew with each new spin.  I fought this idea for a long time until I met Kon-Fu-Sed.   He is a mathematician. 

No matter how many "four gaps" the wheel has produced, the next "four gap" has exactly the same chance of winning/losing.

Before long, John will totally obfuscate away from the FIVE and the next great thing will come along.

If Superman says he has a winning method, he does.  But he will never reveal it.  That is the sadness of the whole thing.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

superman

QuoteIf Superman says he has a winning method, he does.  But he will never reveal it.  That is the sadness of the whole thing

LOL Samster, whats that about? I have a method of play yes, very similar to Bayes, it can't be programmed and it can't really be explained as it depends purely on what the RNG is spitting out and what I think may happen next. I haven't played it for a long time now as my account is closed to open up the JL challenge account.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Johnlegend

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 06, 12:20 AM 2012
John

You finally did it!  I wondered when you would.

You have obfuscated and changed terminologies, names and distances and when challenged--well, the challenger is just not smart enough to figure it out

You are the Emperor with no clothes.

Donik

If you have five reds in a row, the sixth spin is a whole new world.  Could be in a casino half way round the world.  Random starts anew with each new spin.  I fought this idea for a long time until I met Kon-Fu-Sed.   He is a mathematician. 

No matter how many "four gaps" the wheel has produced, the next "four gap" has exactly the same chance of winning/losing.

Before long, John will totally obfuscate away from the FIVE and the next great thing will come along.

If Superman says he has a winning method, he does.  But he will never reveal it.  That is the sadness of the whole thing.

Sam
Sam ill be playing FIVE for the rest of my life just as I will Pattern Breaker. How you find it so hard to understand what five double 4 gaps are. Given you have that example to study is beyond me. That's why its called FIVE. We are betting against seeiing FIVE consecutive double 4 gaps with the first one being our trigger.

Understanding the bet trigger was difficult I admit that. But understanding what we are betting against seeing shouldn't be.

I mean you understood PATTERN BREAKER didn't you??

marivo

Quote from: Johnlegend on Oct 05, 05:33 PM 2012
Sam I don't think you will ever get this method. If I'm talking about a double 4 gap. And I say 5 consecutive doubles. It should be obvious what I am saying.

------D1-----D2-----D3
------04------05-----04
------04------06-----04
------05------04-----03
------04------03-----05
------04------04-----04
------06------03-----02
------03------07-----04---------THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLES

I haven't run into this for 1015 games. FIVE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE 4 GAPS. Study it and study it again. No rocket science or obfuscation Sam. Some understand it some don't. But its not that complicated.



I think I understand it now. I mean I think I understand this and other examples shown before....FIVE-CONSECUTIVE-DOUBLE-4-GAPS.....its all in this words....

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