Lanky's Even Chance System

[jarabo002]

You're probably right.  We know that mathematically there's no such thing as hot or due.  It would probably save us a lot of tracking effort if we just played like you are.

I'm not convinced that the 5 lines part of the bet sequence is a plus or a minus.  It can get hot and hit 20 times in a row or is can get cold and the 6th line wakes up after only a couple of bets of the 5 lines.

I have been trying this.  Bet 3 lines until a loss or you're at a new high.  If a loss, bet 4 lines.  If a win, you will be still down 1 unit from the 3 line loss but re-set to the 3 line bet anyway.  A win on the 3 lines nets us 3 units which will recover the extra unit.

If you lose the 4 line bet, add the 5th line and bet it until  you lose or recover all but 3 units, then reset to the 3 line bet.

I've also played the 5 lines bet until a loss.  That lets us win as long as the 6th line sleeps.  The negative is that we always end with a 5 unit loss.

What do you think?

Its almost the same. Why to recover all but 3 units?

If you lost the 5 lines bet, do you bet 3 lines with 2 units?

I have tryed another tipe of progressions like +2,-1 or even +1 if you win 3 lines or WW on 4 lines, but without successfull . The big hole is there.

[GLC]

It seems The Big hole  is every where.

[soggett]

try it in cycles
ie
cycle of 10 spins, just bet the last 3 lines
if at the end of 10 spins you are in minus just +1, if in plus or even at any point - back to 1 unit
simple
you wont get a large DD this way - but you wont win big either, but small and steady wins the race

[GLC]

try it in cycles
ie
cycle of 10 spins, just bet the last 3 lines
if at the end of 10 spins you are in minus just +1, if in plus or even at any point - back to 1 unit
simple
you won't get a large DD this way - but you won't win big either, but small and steady wins the race

I like this type of betting.  Bread winner, gr8players progression, Project 202.

The Project 202 idea is one of the safest ways to play other than flat betting.  I have never lost in the long run betting a cycle of 38 spins on double zero wheel. 

I didn't use his rules for increasing bet size.  I use the word "didn't" because I don't play this method anymore because I don't have the time. 

I was testing it to see if it would win 1 unit per day.  You know the age old challenge.

I won at least 1 unit for 122 sessions playing the nozero wheel on Betvoyager demo mode a couple of years ago.  I didn't do it every day.  Usually I would play a few sessions per day.

I'll post exactly how I played after I get back from dinner out with the family.

GLC

[GLC]

I use a Butch the gambler's type progression.
Any time we reach a new profit, reset.
Bet 1 unit for the 38 spin cycle if it (the cycle) starts at -5 or more.
Bet 2 units for the 38 spin cycle if it starts at -15 or more.
Bet 3 units for the . . . . -30 or more.
Bet 4 . . . -50 or more.

Bet 5 . . . -75 or more.
Bet 6 . . . -105 or more.
Etc...
The most I have been down and came back to win 1 unit is -72 units betting 5 unit bets.
On my last attack, I stopped testing when I was down -132 units and betting 7 units per bet.  I
quit testing  before I recovered because I knew it was going to be a major grind.  It can go up
and down for an unknown number of times.
I think it would be safe enough if you only went up on the bets and never drop back down to lower units until you reach a new profit.  This, of course, will require a larger bank, but I think it would still be safe enough.
The theory behind Project 202 is that even though we lose more bets than we win, if we can stay
in the game long enough, we will encounter a large enough luster of wins, which will be at larger
bet sizes, to recover the losses which occurred at small bets.

I think you would be pretty safe with a bank of 200 units.  At $5 units, that's a $1,000 bank.
I like the FTL bet selection method with switches to follow the doublets when I get RBBRR etc... 
Back to FTL on the first loss.
Can you lose your 200 bank?  Not likely, but possible.  I think if you play by only increasing
your bet size until you fully recover, you're more likely to lose you bank, but you can also win
units at a much faster pace.  It might be worth the risk. 
You decide.

As always,

GLC

[GLC]

I know this topic has been dead for a while but I want to post a revision that Lanky made to his even chance bet selection method.  Even though this is geared toward baccarat, I have found it to apply equally well to roulette.


Now to what I see from these spins as a workable System.

You all have to remember that I know nothing anyway.

So if this does not work & is just a fluke.

Don’t be too hard on poor old Lanky….Ok

It was not & is not My intention to make the beginning or start of any System that is too hard for all or any of the Family here at the Forum.

If it can’t be easily seen by us all then I don’t want to do it.

However if its easy to do so that a novice like Me at Baccarat can do it then I would have started something worthwhile. That You the experts at this game can finish.

I am under no illusions that this is the finished thing. I merely put it here so that We as a whole can improve it so that in the end it will work if that’s possible.

And if we can get a few extra Dollars from it then I have done My job.

Ok here We go Gang

What I see here is a continuation of trends that I saw years ago while I was playing & recording the even bets at Roulette.   

What We are going to do is take advantage of what I call isolated events.

I First noticed this at roulette & I built my even money plan around it.
Which is slightly different to this but is based on the same principles.

What we are looking for is an isolation of either Banker or Player.

What is an isolation ??

Well quite simply its when We see 1 of Banker or Player followed by another 1 or
2.of the same thing.

Like BBB or more B’s<<would alert Us to see if an isolation occurs after this happens.
Say it went BBB then P then B then P then B
So its gone like this

B
B
B << ALERT THAT AN ISOLATION COULD BE COMING
P
B <<FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THE P ABOVE WAS ISOLATED 1 TIME
P
B<<FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT P ABOVE WAS ISOLATED AGAIN

If it did happen then we bet on Banker until 2 player hands beat us.

It could also do it this way
B
B
B<<ALERT
(P)
B<<P ISOLATED 1 TIME
(P)
(P)
B<<P ISOLATED AGAIN ONLY IT CAME UP TWICE. As long as it is not P x 3

Now You have to pay attention here.

It can’t go BBBPPB<<and still be called an isolation.
Because that’s a 1st up double.

Not a one off or a single isolation.

We need the 1st isolation to be 1 of a Banker or 1 of a Player

Why…??

Well to tell you the truth I don’t really know why.
But I will have a guess.
I found the exact same thing happens at Roulette a heck of a lot.

Also on the other betting games such as cards dice wheels etc have a look next time & you will see what I mean.
It probably happens with fiddle Sticks as well …..LoL

I think it could be that it’s a pattern that makes things trend it could be that this pattern has been there all the time & we have not seen it.

It could be that simple.

Its like Victor says about His patterns being there since Roulette started & we just
have not seen them.

While we are on Victor I did use His W-L notations when I was finding this also there will be times that You will have to wait in virtual while the patterns form.
So once again Victor deserves some of the credit here as well.

Ok the rules first.

1:When We have seen 3 or more in a Row of either Banker or Player.
That is the ALERT to see if an isolation of 1 only follows it.

2: We then have to see if an isolation comes after that.

3:If it does then We have to wait for another single or double isolation to follow it.

If it does then We start betting on whatever 3 or more trend that came before the two Isolations followed.

Until we get beat twice (2) in a Row.(I tried to limit Your losses here)

How You bet them is a personnel thing I guess that is best left to You the Player.

I would probably bet 1 & if we lose then 2.(this would take care of any LW streaks that We would get.)
If we lose again I would  put it into the 6 point divisor plan & bet from there until we are even or in profit & then go back to the 1 + 2 progression.

However for this example lets just flat bet it.

Lets try it & see what happens OK My friends.



1st Session

P-
P-
B-
B-
B- <<alert B has come 3 times
B-
P- <<P is isolated once
B-
P-
P-<< p is isolated twice
B- << bet B on next spin
B-W
B-W
B-W
B-W                                                                 
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
B-W
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
B-W
P-L
P-L<<STOP BETTING We Lost Twice.
P-<<ALERT P X 3 TIMES
B-<<B isolated once
P-
B-<<B isolated twice
P-<<Bet P on next bet
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
B-L<<STOP BETTING
P-
B-
B-
B-<<ALERT
P-<<P ISOLATED ONCE
B-
B-
B-
P-<<IS ISOLATED TWICE
B-<<BET B ON NEXT BET
B-W
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
P-L
P-WE WILL STOP HERE AS WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WE WERE GOING TO END THE 1ST SESSION ANYWAY.
B-
B-
P-
P-

There was 33 bets for 21 Wins & 12 Losses On the 1st Session
12 win bets were on Banker so there is a 0.6 unit deduction

……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
2nd Session
P-
P-
P-<<ALERT
B-
B-
B-<<ALERT
P-
P-< See what I mean here this is a 1st up double NOT an Isolation
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
B-
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
B-
P-
P-
P-<<ALERT
P-
B-<B isolated once
P-
B-<B isolated twice
P-< bet P on next bet
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
P-W
P-W
B-L
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
B-L<<Stop betting here
P-
B-
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
P-
B-
B-
B-<<Alert
B-
B-
B-
P-
P-
P-<<Alert
B-
B-
P-
P-
P-<Alert
B-
There was 16 bets for 12 Wins & 4 Losses on the 2nd Session
And all win bets were on Player so there is no deduction
………………………………………………………………………………………
Overall on both Sessions there were 49 bets
For 33 Wins & 16 Losses.

Will it work again ?? I don’t  know & I can’t guarantee anything into the future.

Don’t get Me wrong I would love it to work for ever. Who would not want that.??

All I know is that I have done My best for You all .

Your Friend

Lanky

[Nickmsi]

Hi George . . .

The "isolation" that Lanky is referring to is what I call a Single.  When you have 2 or more consecutive Singles you then have a Series.

BBRB:  The R is a single as it is isolated between 2 B's.

BRRRB:  The R is a series of 3 R's.

I have studied the Singles vs Series and have a Tracker which utilizes the Singles vs Series just as Lanky has outlined.

The Tracker is attached for your use to help test this method.

You can input any Profit Target or Stop Loss that you wish to test.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Nick

[GLC]

Hi George . . .

The "isolation" that Lanky is referring to is what I call a Single.  When you have 2 or more consecutive Singles you then have a Series.

BBRB:  The R is a single as it is isolated between 2 B's.

BRRRB:  The R is a series of 3 R's.

I have studied the Singles vs Series and have a Tracker which utilizes the Singles vs Series just as Lanky has outlined.

The Tracker is attached for your use to help test this method.

You can input any Profit Target or stop-loss that you wish to test.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Nick

Thanks for all your long hours of coding to make things easier on the forum.

I know what you mean.  It is a little confusing when Lanky calls the double show of a color an isolation also.  If you read his explanation carefully you will realize that he's saying that you  must have a true single isolation after a trigger (triple) and then you can have a double isolation or a single isolation as the true signal to start betting.  If the double isolation occurs before the single isolation, it voids the trigger and we have to wait for another triple.

You and I both know that there's no rational reason why this should work, but in my playing of this system recently, I have been having very good luck using just the 1-2 progression.  I would have won on a flat bet also, but in my mind, 1-2 is just a two-step flat bet of 3 units.

If you remember, I posted a topic where I noted that all progressions are flat bets.  I take that back.  The divisors and methods like it are so complicated that they can be called true progressions

GLC

[ego]

 I also been looking into this area of the game.
Nice topic.

What kind of staking plan would some one recommend.

[GLC]

I also been looking into this area of the game.
Nice topic.

What kind of staking plan would some one recommend.

I've been using the 1 - 2  two-step, capped martingale.  A 1-2-2 three step progression should be tame enough also.  Proofreaders has suggested a 1-1-1-2 for four step progression in the past, if my memory doesn't fail me.  Any of these should keep us from dropping in the hole too quickly on bad runs.

I like the 1-2 since it coincides with the "stop betting" after 2 losses rule.

GLC