Trying to understand the FIVE

[Johnlegend]

No problem Sam, but i'm pretty sure that the tracker has all the triggers right 

The tracker cant be right Stephan it shows losses. Lol! Only kidding. I am 950/0 now for FIVE. When I have played 1000 games I will update results on the FIVE thread. Many thanks for all your effort with the tracker.

[TwoCatSam]

OK, I got two different answers so maybe I didn't ask the question right..............

We must have two four gaps in one dozen and the another in another dozen.  I'm pretty sure that  much is true.

Must the "gap in another dozen" come after the two others have formed, or can it be in between?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Using the Tracker in the next two screenshots:

Shott 5-1 shows the dozen in the middle of the first two.  You will see the Tracker does not call for a bet.

Shot 5-2 shows the third gap coming after the first two and there is a bet called for.

Now, Jl says you can use the gap in the middle for a trigger and Stephan say you can't.  Who is right?

Sam

[jordan69]

For me, shot 5.2 is the right one.


first two "4 gaps" have to be consecutive in the same dozen.

[TwoCatSam]

Jl

Would you clarify this dilemma for me please?

Sam

[Johnlegend]

Jl

Would you clarify this dilemma for me please?

Sam

I am right Sam. The dozen that is FIRST to give you a DOUBLE 4 GAP. Is your game trigger THAT NEVER CHANGES. Now the dozen that gives you your BET TRIGGER can produce that trigger at any point after the dozen with the GAME TRIGGER produced the first 4 gap. EXAMPLE

-----D2-----D3
-----02------04
-----04------03-----BET TRIGGER DOZEN 2
-----02------04-----GAME TRIGGER DOZEN 3

You see that example Sam the bet trigger came before the game trigger had completed. ALL we care about is the FIRST DOZEN to show us a DOUBLE 4 GAP. Once that happens we look for the first SINGLE 4 GAP. And bam that's our BET TRIGGER. You see with the way 1---3 gaps form theres no knowing who will be first to show us the GAME TRIGGER. But yes there was a bet in the 5.1 example chart. And Stephan has to address this with the new tracker.

[TwoCatSam]

***And Stephan has to address this with the new tracker.****

Thanks, Jl.  That's the answer I was seeking.

Sam
   

[Stepkevh]

Well well wel

this  me completely.

i refer to johns original post


THE RULES.
   
1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.


DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap
. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5
4--Trigger to bet.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.


Johns this is your original explanation and in the whole 18 pages there is nothing to see about the fact that there can be a bet trigger between the 2   4 gaps  game trigger

[Johnlegend]

Well well wel

this  me completely.

i refer to johns original post


THE RULES.
   
1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.


DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap
. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5
4--Trigger to bet.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.


Johns this is your original explanation and in the whole 18 pages there is nothing to see about the fact that there can be a bet trigger between the 2   4 gaps  game trigger

Stephan my appologies, my explanation didn't take into account this possibility. But its quite common.

[Stepkevh]

no problem john,

will see what i can change in the tracker.

[Johnlegend]

no problem john,

will see what i can change in the tracker.

Thanks for all your effort Stephan its appreciated.

[TwoCatSam]

I have put John's numbers he posted on his thread into a format I can see.  I hope this is right.  By all accounts, it is.

Frankly, honestly---I will have to see this work to believe it.  In the final analysis, when you come down to the last bet, the 9, there is no more reason for dozen one to hit than the other two.  Dozen two has just as good a chance as either of the others.  I see this as a method to lose slower and probably one to make the player throw up his hands and quit out of boredom from waiting for a chance to bet.

What this system depends on is the wheel being unable to continue in a certain mode.  I see no reason why it can't. 

Again, I offer to contribute toward creating a robot to test in hours what John proposes to do in months.

Anyone?

Sam

[Johnlegend]

I have put John's numbers he posted on his thread into a format I can see.  I hope this is right.  By all accounts, it is.

Frankly, honestly---I will have to see this work to believe it.  In the final analysis, when you come down to the last bet, the 9, there is no more reason for dozen one to hit than the other two.  Dozen two has just as good a chance as either of the others.  I see this as a method to lose slower and probably one to make the player throw up his hands and quit out of boredom from waiting for a chance to bet.

What this system depends on is the wheel being unable to continue in a certain mode.  I see no reason why it can't. 

Again, I offer to contribute toward creating a robot to test in hours what John proposes to do in months.

Anyone?

Sam

Lose slower? Well its sure taking its time Sam. Today it became the first method I have ever used to break the 1000. Barrier. And even more startling. I havent been taken to the 4th step of the progression for more than 2 weeks. This amazes me.

Even better BV can't even show me 6 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen. And I don't think 8 is coming anytime soon. Boring doesn't factor into it. Sam the turnover on RNGs is faster than other methods live.

And the wait is well worth the reward. Superman will be telling you that a year from now.

[TwoCatSam]

******Even better BV can't even show me 6 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen. And I don't think 8 is coming anytime soon.******(my reds)

John

What the heck is this??  When did 6 consecutive gaps come into play?  Was my chart wrong?  You have, by your own numbers, created that chart.  I just re-formatted it.  And what with the "single dozen" thingy??  I thought it was two dozens.  Am I wrong?

Where is the six and eight coming from?  Have the rules changed?

By the way, I am still 100% pulling for you to win and win big.  Only a fool would want a man to lose when he could copy the system and make money from it. 

Sam

[Johnlegend]

******Even better BV can't even show me 6 consecutive 4 gaps on a single dozen. And I don't think 8 is coming anytime soon.******(my reds)

John

What the heck is this??  When did 6 consecutive gaps come into play?  Was my chart wrong?  You have, by your own numbers, created that chart.  I just re-formatted it.  And what with the "single dozen" thingy??  I thought it was two dozens.  Am I wrong?

Where is the six and eight coming from?  Have the rules changed?

By the way, I am still 100% pulling for you to win and win big.  Only a fool would want a man to lose when he could copy the system and make money from it. 

Sam

Relax Sam that's a different method I'm.playing in conjunction with FIVE. I play 2--4 mthods at the same time as standard. This is why Ill never be bored.