Interesting stat on FIVE

[Robeenhuut]

I guess most of the members here noticed a winning streak of John playing FIVE.
I calculated the odds of winning 1000 games in a row playing the method with 1/80 odds like FIVE.
They are 3 in 1 Million  For comparison purposes 600 winning streak happens once in 2000 trials.
Correct me please if my math is wrong.

[Johnlegend]

I guess most of the members here noticed a winning streak of John playing FIVE.
I calculated the odds of winning 1000 games in a row playing the method with 1/80 odds like FIVE.
They are 3 in 1 Million  For comparison purposes 600 winning streak happens once in 2000 trials.
Correct me please if my math is wrong.

Your math is wrong LoL. Well today my winning streak came to an end. I lost my first game on a live wheel Matt with the help of a ZERO. Still, how can I complain. 1094/1 is some run. I was peppering that fourth step more frequently this week.

I will see if I can get anywhere near 1000 again. At the end of the day, I would be happy with 400/1 longterm we shall see.

[Johnlegend]

One thing I can say though Matt is the other idea for betting against 8 consecutive 4 GAPS on a single dozen looks impregnable. The methpod I call 8 on 1. Isn't even being challenged. LIVE OR RNG. I've played 250 real games now and not one streak has gone past 6. 4 being the common limit. I think this could break the 2000 barrier with ease. Keep you posted.

[superman]

I lost my first game on a live wheel

Yeah B@st@rds they are LOL, RNG all the way

[Johnlegend]

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Yeah B@st@rds they are LoL, RNG all the way

Yes I'm beginning to believe in BV Superman. A nice earner for you once I reach a decent level. F_LAT_INO doesn't trust.BV Superman.

I can see no difference to live.

[superman]

F_LAT_INO doesn't trust.BV Superman

Because he's old, old people don't like the digital age lol

[Johnlegend]

Because he's old, old people don't like the digital age LoL

Very true Superman. Lol!!!!!!

[Ralph]

Because he's old, old people don't like the digital age LoL

There must be other reasons, FLAT is probably younger than me, I play at on line casinos, and do programming, working on a bot as well.


Win 1000 times in a row is not common, that is 1 in 345000000 to win the jackpot in lotto here, and among 10 million people it happens every year. Things can  be possible and unlikely at the same time.

[Robeenhuut]

One thing I can say though Matt is the other idea for betting against 8 consecutive 4 GAPS on a single dozen looks impregnable. The methpod I call 8 on 1. Isn't even being challenged. LIVE OR RNG. I've played 250 real games now and not one streak has gone past 6. 4 being the common limit. I think this could break the 2000 barrier with ease. Keep you posted.

I would be careful here John with estimating a strike rate.  I play a method that in more than 150k spins and 2600 games delivers 100+ strike rate where only 40+ is needed to break even. Where a heavy progression is involved you need a much larger number of games to really get a good idea.
Unfortunately you expect your strike rate to gradually drop down. Of course you can get long winning runs once in a while.

[Johnlegend]

I would be careful here John with estimating a strike rate.  I play a method that in more than 150k spins and 2600 games delivers 100+ strike rate where only 40+ is needed to break even. Where a heavy progression is involved you need a much larger number of games to really get a good idea.
Unfortunately you expect your strike rate to gradually drop down. Of course you can get long winning runs once in a while.

Matt the problem with most people on these forums is they are looking for an all in one method. The elusive HOLY thingy majig. That's where they are going wrong. So you don't do that. FIVE is a very good method. Its not a grail. But its going to make you a heap of moolah if you have what it takes to stay With it. Its sidekick 8 ON 1. Could be a lot closer to the grail.
Both of them are going to deliver several hundred wins to every loss Matt. So you play them together. So what might be disappointment to most a 400/1 strikerate. More for 8 on 1. Is absolute bliss to me. Because I know what happens over time when you keep adding that 8% compounded growth to your bankroll. PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!! Whose got it Matt?. I don't see too many on this forum with it. Which is a snapshot of the bigger world. If I could program 50,000 minds as sure as Superman could program a Bot. THIS GAME IS DONE. Be sure of that. But of course I can't. And I don't want to either. I need roulette to be there to pay my way in life and fulfill my passion for winning.

There are a handful of members on this forum who have what it takes. Chauncy47 is most definately one of them. Kevin seems to have the right thinking too. Others are great thinkers and testers. But theres only so much time for that. You have to get on with the business of winning and profitting too. My proposed 3 year quest on BV will inspire and convince a lot more people than any words I can write. That's why I've undertaken it. And all I have talked of will now materialize in pounds and pennies. If BV leave me alone. Which I am sure they won't. I will turn Superman and myself into millionaires just from this project over the next 3--5 years. But I seriously doubt they will allow that. We shall see how far they let me go before the penny drops.

[subby]

I'm looking forward to watching your 3 year stint John, I am almost a convert and in another year I too will be able to start a proper adventure with the discipline I need to get there. At the moment I have the odd fleet away from iron discipline and those fleeting moments are getting fewer and fewer. I know that after Xmas I'll be in a position again to have a decent BR to start again properly without having to take the BR out to pay for some real life issues (which I've had to do a number of times recently to cover dentists, vet fees etc...unexpected bills)

In the new year I'll have what I need to keep the BR for playing the game with and not have to look to use it for other stuff. I'd like a BR sufficiently big to eventually get me a regular £100 a week extra then I can start to take out that £100 and use it.

Iron will and patience is the key and the sooner you realise this then the better off you'll be sooner. Far too many with the "win fast and win loads now" mentality, doing the rounds. Winning 10 units a day for about 300 units a month = £300 a month. That might not sound a lot...but if you can work your BR over the space of 6-12 months to give you the breathing space to see your unit value easily go from £1 units to even just £2 units makes that end month amount of STILL 300 units....worth £600...now we're talking. Imagine the standard 300 units a month when you've grown your BR through laser discipline....when you have £5 units x the 300 units a month....£1500 spending money a month is where you start to have fun.

To play £5 units risking maybe 81 units (code 4 for example) that's £400+ which is really steep to lose that on one loss....BUT....if you've taken 12 months to grow your BR at low unit stakes up to the point you can afford to play £5 unit stakes...then your BR should be up in the £6000-£8000 region. Losing £400 out of £8000 isn't something that should, by the stage your br is that high, be something that affects your mentality in playing the game. If you have worked your BR to that level your mental toughness to deal with a loss and not risk a lose bet, is at, then you're "above" that loose play risk and you'll just keep coining in it playing for 10 units a day.

It is ALL about having the mental will to do it...few if many, perhaps less than 1% of players, will have that mindset toughness to get to the stage where you have a huge BR and good money coming in each month even after taking into account losses in the month....It's being that 1% that's the hard bit to do ...not playing the game systems.

Just my two cents...

[malcop]

Well said, I agree with you 100% 

Malcop

[GLC]

Subby,  Nice post.  That's the kind of post everyone should read a couple of times a month just to keep reminded.  A lot of us, myself included, have serious lapses in and out of PATIENCE.

I had a small red flag run up the flagpole when you were talking about your playing bankroll.  It just feels like you might be pushing forward with too small a br or a br that's not that free from possible need in your family life.  Maybe I'm reading too much into your comments.  The rest of your post is so level headed, I must be.  It could just be my grandfatherliness comming out.

Cheers mate,

Ignore the contradiction between my avatar picture and the "grandfatherliness" comment.

[Turner]

Ignore the contradiction between my avatar picture and the "grandfatherliness" comment.

GLC....I love your wit.....its so English.

[subby]

Subby,  Nice post.  That's the kind of post everyone should read a couple of times a month just to keep reminded.  A lot of us, myself included, have serious lapses in and out of PATIENCE.

I had a small red flag run up the flagpole when you were talking about your playing bankroll.  It just feels like you might be pushing forward with too small a br or a br that's not that free from possible need in your family life.  Maybe I'm reading too much into your comments.  The rest of your post is so level headed, I must be.  It could just be my grandfatherliness comming out.

Cheers mate,

Ignore the contradiction between my avatar picture and the "grandfatherliness" comment.

I frequently lapse into a game of black jack...I mistook a £1 chip for a £100 chip as I was faffing about and not looking properly when I clicked a unit to bet....realised as the bets closed what I'd don...and I lost it...thus blowing my entire bankroll I@d worked at for over 4 weeks....gutted doesn't even come close. 


With regards to the BR side...this time of year and on into Jan Feb...I earn more due to overtime at work. When the kids are out of university I get less hours during summer months and thus less salary. With the overtime money I'll be able to break off a chunk of salary into a fresh BR and not worry as other bills will be covered and that chunk will be a new BR from overtime money...money I wouldn't have had anyway so it's not missed.