Looking for some help with a progression

[mattymattz]

Hey gang,

I am looking for some unique ideas in regards to a progression.  I am looking for a progression for 10 numbers.  My style of play regularly hits between 1-12 spins, but also can go longer (of course). 

Am going to implement Lanky's divisor but wanted to ask the progression guru's for their opinions as well.

Thanks,
MM

[Proofreaders2000]

Here's an idea I tweaked from Atlantis

1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3 (penthouse)
3,3,3

[MrJ]

Min bet?
Max bet?
Expected NET value of each win?

Ken

[GLC]

Hey gang,

I am looking for some unique ideas in regards to a progression.  I am looking for a progression for 10 numbers.  My style of play regularly hits between 1-12 spins, but also can go longer (of course). 

Am going to implement Lanky's divisor but wanted to ask the progression guru's for their opinions as well.

Thanks,
MM

MM,  I know that you know that progressions are just a means to tweak the play of a strategy to suit your personal style.  So ultimately, you have to decide. 

There aren't a lot of unique progressions for every system.  You can take any of the standard progressions and adapt them to the 10 to 37 payoff.  You can use a dozen progression like the one proofreaders suggested.  You could tweak it a little to fit 10 to 37 vs 12 to 37.

I always like to start testing any system with the Gr8player's method.  You would bet 1 unit on each of the 10 numbers for a set number of spins.  Gr8player suggests 7 for baccarat.  You say your style of play has a hit, usually within 12 spins, so why not use 12 as your number of spins per cycle. 

Bet 1 unit on each number for 12 spins.  If you reach a new profit before you reach 12 spins, reset.

If you reach 12 spins without a hit, then you move to 2 units per location for the next 12 spins or a new profit. etc...  Nothing sacred about 12, you could use any number of spins per cycle; 7, 10, 12, 15, 20 etc...

Okay, so this is slow.  But remember, first, try not to lose.  As you're playing to not lose, wins will happen.

Your progression for each 12 spin cycle can determine how aggressive you want to be.
1-2-4-8-16-32  is extrememly aggressive.
1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 is aggressive also, but a little less so.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 etc... not so aggressive.  Of course this one can be played D'Alembert syle +1, -1 or you can stay at a level until a full recovery.

By the way, anybody that knows how to play Lanky's 6 point divisor and adapt it to 10 number bets knows as much about this stuff as the rest of us.  I feel like I'm talking to the choir, MM.

GLC

[VLS]

Hi Matty, try the Reversed delayed ATILA:

link:://betselection.cc/positive/*reversed*-delayed-atila/

It's good for consistent hitters like your one here; adapting to the natural cycles of wins/losses with little exposure in chips.


(Join and I'll fix you up for a subscriber account, no biggie).

[catalyst]

Hi Matty, try the Reversed delayed ATILA:

link:://betselection.cc/positive/*reversed*-delayed-atila/

It's good for consistent hitters like your one here; adapting to the natural cycles of wins/losses with little exposure in chips.


(Join and I'll fix you up for a subscriber account, no biggie).

dear Victor
not written in plain english, much like code. probably i have got the idea. a little explanation could help more.
thanks.
catalyst

[VLS]

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[mattymattz]

Gents, thanks for the responses.

Ken - I don't have those values yet.  Knowing me, Min bet is anything, where as max bet would be the table max/number. So spread could feasibly be something like .50 - 50$

GLC - I may try your progression/cycle idea, but ultimately I think the divisor will take the cake, so to speak.  I belive that due to it's regular hit ratio, I don't need a progression that will take profit on each hit, therefore limiting the downswings.

Vic - have signed up for your website.  Look forward to checking it out - thanks.

Currently, during testing, was using a 18 step progression and hadn't lost in ages (approx. 48,000 spins live table only).  But when it does lose (and it does of course eventually) it's pretty big, so was thinking of tinkering with the progression to come up with something less intrusive to the BR. 

I think the divisor, along with safety brakes, could do this nicely.  I will make sure to post more should it turn out.

Thanks again,
MM

[Robeenhuut]

Gents, thanks for the responses.

Ken - I don't have those values yet.  Knowing me, Min bet is anything, where as max bet would be the table max/number. So spread could feasibly be something like .50 - 50$

GLC - I may try your progression/cycle idea, but ultimately I think the divisor will take the cake, so to speak.  I belive that due to it's regular hit ratio, I don't need a progression that will take profit on each hit, therefore limiting the downswings.

Vic - have signed up for your website.  Look forward to checking it out - thanks.

Currently, during testing, was using a 18 step progression and hadn't lost in ages (approx. 48,000 spins live table only).  But when it does lose (and it does of course eventually) it's pretty big, so was thinking of tinkering with the progression to come up with something less intrusive to the BR. 

I think the divisor, along with safety brakes, could do this nicely.  I will make sure to post more should it turn out.

Thanks again,
MM

If you are confident of your strike rate go flat. Changing your progression in terms of number of steps will only change your BR requirements. Either you go for broke hoping to avoid RFH altogether or you take occasional losses hoping to balance swing in your favor. But any progression on larger number of inside numbers would scare the hell out of me