Quick In, Quick Out

[Maui13]

My fiance and I won a weekend away, and the city we're going to has a casino - YAY!!!   


So here is my question - she has wedding shopping she wants to do, so I'll have to tag along to be the supportive man in her life - BUT the pay off is awesome! I get some hard earned $$$ to spend at the casino, and she'll be watching!


So - if you had limited time, limited budget - what method would you play to make some quick cash and get out. So we're not talking about long term winners or a holy grail, just quick in, quick out with some money!


Cheers
M

[biagle]

hi, im interested too.

why not to play your dozen method? also try to look in to vile/flatino methods on lines, last/furthest

[Maui13]

O I'm going to try the dozens method! That's a fact! 


I'll share a little secret with you, so that no one else know 


I'm going to play the dozens method, but if it tanked in a short while I wanted to try and recover! 


Cheers
M

[ausguy]

Maui - PATTERN 4 (P4) on the EVEN MONEY chances may be an option. You may already know a lot of this from the P4 threads? If so, just treat this as an overview.
As the PATTERN 4 thread suggests you play it as hit & run with an 8 spin separation zone between the each of the 3 line spin triggers and the matching 3 bet lines.
The bets are made as all opposite to the triggers.  JL suggests playing it on HIGH/LOW.
I'll leave out discussing time gap delayed betting here, as this post is shooting for multi. table betting as it speeds up the betting by visiting other tables in turn.

Some others have suggested O/E, R/B have an equal chance?  If you played this game your just played results should reveal the true outcomes of those bets? You can make an in play decision if mixing the bet positions would work?   Any zero that drops is a loss.

Zeros in the triggers can either be used as a non bet on the relavant bet line eg 1 zero in the trigger has only 2 bet levels. Remember only 1 win is needed to end that play.   Alternatively you can wait for some more spins to give you a clear sequence for the betting.

Any win or 7 unit loss ends that set and thus you "run" from that table. If you return to a previously played table, PATTERN 4 dictatates you at least need to use a fresh set of spin numbers.
Playing hit/run on multiple tables should maximise the randomness for P4 to win?

For example my local casino for the PM shift has at least 10 dealer roulette tables operating.
With an ebb & flow of players throughout the afternoon/evening, spins may vary from 15 seconds with only 1 or 2 bets to 3 - 4 minutes on crowded tables.  Any zero is a loss. Then we are betting (opposites) that the casino cannot match its spins 3 times back to back on every table we bet on.

I don't think PATTERN 4 mutiple table betting could be effectively tested unless you know the exact time of each spin for each bet placed. From what I've seen of records of spins they don't have the times of each spin.

Outlay is modest requiring 7 units to cover the 3 bet lines. Any win nets 1 unit, at risk is to lose 7 units. It's a short Marty = 1, 2, 4. Obviously any 7 unit loss takes 7 wins to recover the loss. Depending on your budget extra banks may be an option?

To save waiting you can "fast track" the bets by backcounting the trigger/seperation spins off the marquee/billboard.

You can then "run"  to another table & repeat the process. Table spins per hour would reflect your profit/loss?

Some positives are that there is only 1 bet to place per spin (Good if the tables are a little crowded).
Easy to understand for your good lady, rather than standing around watching (boring) she could even duplicate your bets for some fun and more possible profit? Using the "fast track" spin results keeps the action going, if winning your good lady may become a roulette convert or at least let you off the "leash" from time to time? Ha! Hah!

Best of luck to you both.

Next week I'll be visiting my local casino to play PATTERN 4 as described above. I live in OZ.

Cheers, Ausguy.

[Twisteruk]

Ausguy

Can i ask why you prefer P4 to PB ?

I remember P4 does bust a lot PB is much more stable, in my opinion

Anyhooooo let us know how you get on !!!!

[TwoCatSam]

Why do I suddenly want a PB&J sandwich?

[ausguy]

Twister - Has anyone, to your knowledge, played P4 on multiple live tables ( for me 8+) rotating through the 3 even bet sets i.e. 1 set every table on a hit and run method? 
3 level Marty betting 1, 2 & 4 units? A relatively low bankroll/risk outlay.

I thought the P4 play was mainly on H/L hit & run for some time then wait for X spins and return to that same table? I know there was some discussion about every spin being random vs leave & return to miss potential losing streaks?

I chose P4 as a starting point to test my theory that mixing up the tables and the even chances made it even more difficult for the casino to match its trigger spins to bets 9 spins later.
I feel more consistant winning outcomes should occur?

The  difficulty in not being able  pretest my plan due to the actual time of the spin on the next chosen table. Every spin moves the trigger spins along a notch & therefore the numbers will probably differ?  So even if you have records of multiple spins on live tables I've never seen actual times of each spin listed?  I will be logging all bet spins even if the 1st bet wins in case some later testing/tweaking is needed.

Another variable is the ebb & flow of spins at various tables as players come and go.

Time will tell next week. It will either crash & burn or succeed. Their is a lot of upside to this  with bets x10 the minimum possible to fit the table limits. As well there is the potential to run all 3 strands of even chances simultaneously.

The 1st goal though is to win enough to be risking the casinos money. Compounding is a grail within itself.

Ausguy.

P S  2cat - Try this Aussie delight. A big thick slice of fresh bread, dollops of butter & a liberal spread of Vegemite (a yeast extract very dark salty/tangy spread [not well received in the US I believe]).

[TwoCatSam]

Vegemite............

That was in a song.  "She smiled at me and gave me a vegemite sandwich.."  I think.  Can't think of the name........"I come from the land down under; women glow and men thunder"

What song is that??

Puzzled TwoCat

[ausguy]

2cat - name of song = Land Down Under by Men At Work. Plenty of info. on line Wiki. etc.

Ausguy.

[Twisteruk]

Twister - Has anyone, to your knowledge, played P4 on multiple live tables ( for me 8+) rotating through the 3 even bet sets i.e. 1 set every table on a hit and run method? 
3 level Marty betting 1, 2 & 4 units? A relatively low bankroll/risk outlay.

I thought the P4 play was mainly on H/L hit & run for some time then wait for X spins and return to that same table? I know there was some discussion about every spin being random vs leave & return to miss potential losing streaks?

I chose P4 as a starting point to test my theory that mixing up the tables and the even chances made it even more difficult for the casino to match its trigger spins to bets 9 spins later.
I feel more consistant winning outcomes should occur?

The  difficulty in not being able  pretest my plan due to the actual time of the spin on the next chosen table. Every spin moves the trigger spins along a notch & therefore the numbers will probably differ?  So even if you have records of multiple spins on live tables I've never seen actual times of each spin listed?  I will be logging all bet spins even if the 1st bet wins in case some later testing/tweaking is needed.

Another variable is the ebb & flow of spins at various tables as players come and go.

Time will tell next week. It will either crash & burn or succeed. Their is a lot of upside to this  with bets x10 the minimum possible to fit the table limits. As well there is the potential to run all 3 strands of even chances simultaneously.

The 1st goal though is to win enough to be risking the casinos money. Compounding is a grail within itself.

Ausguy.

P S  2cat - Try this Aussie delight. A big thick slice of fresh bread, dollops of butter & a liberal spread of Vegemite (a yeast extract very dark salty/tangy spread [not well received in the US I believe]).

Nope Ive never seen that mate

I really look forward to readin ure results !

[VegasArick]

If this works... it would be an ideal situation for me.

I would use Red Nickels or Green quarters.  That way I can go

from table to table quickly without buying in for a color.

[dino246]

Hi Maui.

Gotta be TDM 2 Dozens.....Men at Work on headphones.......whilst scoffing a Vegamite/Marmite sandwich........1980s.........all this........Feels Like Heaven.

Cheers AND Good Luck.


Dino.

[ausguy]

Vegas - I believe that a nickel is 10c & a qtr is naturally 25c. Do you have access to live dealer  tables that low? WOW!  If that's in Vegas what/how many casinos have that?  Just curious as I'm a long way from the USA down here in OZ.

So at those amounts a 7 unit bank roll would either be 70c or $1.75. 

For those low amounts give it a play, you've virtually got nothing to lose.

1st target is to double your 7 units. 2nd target is to win another 7 units.  So including your BR you'll have 21 units. Peel off 14 units & that goes into another pocket locked in for 100% profit.

With the other 7 units, now playing with the casinos money so you can't lose & worst  case scenario is if you go bust you'll still finish with that 100% profit in your "locked" pocket.

Your next target will be to win another 7 units. If you get there you'll then have 14 units.
So then you can double your min.bet to a 2, 4, 8 = 14 unit play. Next target 28 units and double your min.again. As you can see the potential is huge.

An option could also be to take some profit along the way by staying at the same bet level twice as long. E.G. at 28 units won you take 14 units profit & again target the 28 unit level, then increase your min. bet from there. Doing it that way locks in some profit in the event of a triple loss.

The live dealer tables I'll be playing are $5 on any inside number and $25 min - $1,000 max. on the even chances (that's the "cheapest" chip tables they have). My BR will be $25, $50, $100 = $175. I'll have at least a couple of banks. In relative terms it's not a big $$$ risk.

The value of the my units is a lot more than what you can play with but the principal is exactly the same.  The only difference is probably the wheels?  Here single zero & yours two zeros.

Cheers, Ausguy.

[Turner]

My fiance and I won a weekend away, and the city we're going to has a casino - YAY!!!   


So here is my question - she has wedding shopping she wants to do, so I'll have to tag along to be the supportive man in her life - BUT the pay off is awesome! I get some hard earned $$$ to spend at the casino, and she'll be watching!


So - if you had limited time, limited budget - what method would you play to make some quick cash and get out. So we're not talking about long term winners or a holy grail, just quick in, quick out with some money!


Cheers
M

Play all repeats on the last  24.

[Proofreaders2000]

...what method would you play to make some quick cash and get out.--Maui13

I highly recommend Turner's Even/Odd Dozen Numbers System.  Aim for two wins, quit.

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