LAST-vers-FURTHER 9-Wiesbaden all Wiesbaden sessions over 300 spins

[soggett]

COUSE 1 CHIP= 2 EUROS

oh, LoL 

Sam, you bet the last 9 till a loss, then you bet the furthest 9 till a loss, then again last 9

[FlAtMaN]

and now most important,to see whether each session matches with your tests
                         won                        played spins                 lost
1-session          54=108 euros             18
2                       63=126 euros             45
3                       72=144 euros             36
4                       54=108 euros             18
5                       54=108 euros             54
6                       54=108 euros             45
7                       54=108 euros             63
8                       90=180 euros             18
9                     171=342 euros             108
10                     63=126 euros             45
11                   189=378 euros             54
12                     90=180 euros            144
13                     63=126 euros              90
14                     90=180 euros              90     
15                     72=144 euros             126
16                     54=108 euros             135
17                     81=162 euros               99
18                     54=108 euros               54
19                       9=  18 euros                first session full played..didn't win required 54 only 9
20                                                                               18-second session full played
21                     54=108 euros             252
22                     54=108 euros               45
23                     54=108 euros               18
24                     81=162 euros               72
25                     54=108 euros               54
26                     54=108 euros               45
27                   144=288 euros               54
28                     72=144 euros              117
29                     72=144 euros                54
30                     72=144 euros                36

OTHER 4 SESSIONS NOT INVOLVED IN AGREED BET--JUST 30 SESSION

But nevertheless I will continue to test this until it loses 1080-2160 euros         

[FlAtMaN]

FlAtMaN


The above was exactly how I was playing it and you told me I was wrong.  That you always got the repeaters.  Again, is a "repeater" a split or a number?

I have spent about two weeks learning this system only to find I've been chasing my tail as the rules are constantly changing!

This is very distressing. 

Good luck to the guys testing this.  Considering the hours I've put in on this, when one of you understands it, would you kindly explain it to me?

Sam

I can see this is too much for you Sam,but actually it is so simple....rules are not constantly changing.......as you don't understand that the other method on same basic is different method,
and this is different method....go throughout all session and you will find out...rules are clear but
you are hunging to rules of complete different method.....reverse engireeng.

[FlAtMaN]

FlAtMaN


The above was exactly how I was playing it and you told me I was wrong.  That you always got the repeaters.  Again, is a "repeater" a split or a number?

I have spent about two weeks learning this system only to find I've been chasing my tail as the rules are constantly changing!

This is very distressing. 

Good luck to the guys testing this.  Considering the hours I've put in on this, when one of you understands it, would you kindly explain it to me?

Sam

Sam here again,excel 9----from spin 114 you started playing furthers,come;
2-furth-w
18-f-w
10-f-w
9-f-w
5-f-w
6-f-w
5-last lost.....BECAUSE 5 ABOVE BECOMED PART OF LAST 9----AGREE ???NEXT BET YOU CONTINUED BETTING ON FURTHEST 6-WON.......CONTINUE ON FURTHEST COME 5 AGAIN AND YOU LOST COUSE 5 IS NOW PART OF LAST 9------AND NEXT BET IS LAST 9

[soggett]

LvF2 - shouldnt we begin betting after number 22?
at that point we have 9 splits

I noticed some mistakes in LvF3, do we have a tracker for this? all I could find is the one that tracks last 9 splits, do we have the one that changes from last to furthest?

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

This is what I've been trying to get you to say all along.  Permit me to say it in my words:

When you are betting for "furthest" and you win you move the winning split to the bottom of the "lasts" column.  You move the top split from the "lasts" column to the top of the "furthest" column

AND...............

You continue to bet on "furthest".  You continue to bet on "furthest" until a "last" hits and then you switch.

Unless I can't read English, this is what you just said.
___________________________________________________________________________

The above does NOT conform to what you have told me and what is in your previous Excel sheets.  I can show you a trot where you bet on the #22 even though it had hit as a "furthest".  You won on it again as a "furthest".  Now you say this #22 would have gone to the "lasts".

Again I ask, when you say "repeater" do you mean a repeating split or a repeating column?  (last or furthest)

Sam

[FlAtMaN]

LvF2 - shouldnt we begin betting after number 22?
at that point we have 9 splits

I noticed some mistakes in LvF3, do we have a tracker for this? all I could find is the one that tracks last 9 splits, do we have the one that changes from last to furthest?

As I thought you would test this wit a tracker,those are only conditions to get there,
as by hand errors could ocure as I have stated earlier.

[TwoCatSam]

Sorry, but no one is going to write a tracker when the rules are unclear.

FlAtMaN

If I can just get some answers, I'd love to use my "TwoCat-FlAtMaN Redneck L V F" tracker as it works very well and is firmly planted in my mind.

Sam

[mattymattz]

Sam,

from what I can gather by all the reading, you were doing it right (as in repeating splits on the furthest group will be a loss).  Whether Flat made a mistake earlier or changed the rules this time, who knows.  But from what he's saying now, do as you were doing. 

Best of luck bud, don't stress out too much.

MM

[FlAtMaN]

FlAtMaN

This is what I've been trying to get you to say all along.  Permit me to say it in my words:

When you are betting for "furthest" and you win you move the winning split to the bottom of the "lasts" column.  You move the top split from the "lasts" column to the top of the "furthest" column
that is only for better explanation--top to top---as it just goes to furthest as a whole box of further 9
AND...............

You continue to bet on "furthest".  You continue to bet on "furthest" until a "last" hits and then you switch.

Unless I can't read English, this is what you just said.
___________________________________________________________________________

The above does NOT conform to what you have told me and what is in your previous Excel sheets.  I can show you a trot where you bet on the #22 even though it had hit as a "furthest".  You won on it again as a "furthest".  Now you say this #22 would have gone to the "lasts".
REPEATERS ARE ONLY WINNING ON LAST 9

Again I ask, when you say "repeater" do you mean a repeating split or a repeating column?  (last or furthest)--THERE ARE NO COLUMNS HERE EPEATING SPLIT,AND REPEATING SPLIT BETTING FURTHERS CAN'T WIN TWO TIMES IN THE ROW.......JUST FOLLOW THIS,BE GUIDED ONLY ON STARTING LAST 9
FORGET ABOUT FURTHERS AS THEY WILL COME AS READY.
erase 2 on hit of 17
erase 3 on hit of 16
4
erase 5
6
7
8
9-trigger for last 9
2w
5-w
17-l-trigger further 9....you see above you must always have vertical line of last 9
16-w same bet furthest erase 16
16-l-and bet last......because 16 is now part of last 9...you see sometimes you are on last sometimes on furthest...on both   last/further are after eithe of two....your vertical last 9
must be your guide...so betting last come furthest,next bet furhest---betting furthest come last 9,
next bet last 9....very simple dear Sam.

Sam

JESUS SAM THAT 22 OF DRAZEN EXCEL IS DIFFERENT BET GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ---LvF 9---
THAT IS DIFFERENT...SHOW ME IN THOSE EXCELS.

[FlAtMaN]

Sam,

from what I can gather by all the reading, you were doing it right (as in repeating splits on the furthest group will be a loss).  Whether Flat made a mistake earlier or changed the rules this time, who knows.  But from what he's saying now, do as you were doing. 

Best of luck bud, don't stress out too much.

MM

THAT WHAT WRITTEN IN FIRST EXCEL IN THE RULES UNDER---IMPORTANT

[TwoCatSam]

FlAtMaN

Glad you believe in Jesus!  Over here, he's the only hope we got!  But I drift..........

Dear Brother

If I make a ten minute movie playing just as I think you are directing, using Excel so you can see what I'm doing, will you take the time and show me the courtesy of watching it and saying I'm either

A  Right
B  Wrong.

mattymattz

Thanks for weighing in but as FlAtMaN just said, these are new rules.

I'll rake leaves until I hear from FlAtMaN.

Sam

[soggett]

FlAtMaN

This is what I've been trying to get you to say all along.  Permit me to say it in my words:

When you are betting for "furthest" and you win you move the winning split to the bottom of the "lasts" column.  You move the top split from the "lasts" column to the top of the "furthest" column

AND...............

You continue to bet on "furthest".  You continue to bet on "furthest" until a "last" hits and then you switch.


Sam

this is right Sam, you are doing it correctly

[ashwinsinha]

lolz this really cannot be done without a tracker...... what is stop loss suggested here flat

[FlAtMaN]

WHAT NEW  RULES ???I GOT THE FEELING YOU ARE EITHER PULLING ME UP OR TRULLY DON'T
UNDERSTAND THIS.
DID YOU SEE 1ST EXCEL WITH RULES...ALL SAME THROUGHOUT 34 SESSIONS.....YOU ARE ONE HERE
THAT IS CHANGING RULES SAM AND I HAVE A FEELING YOU ARE LAUGHING RIGHT NOW
THIS IS VERY SERIOUS BUSSINES WHERE I WAS LOOKING FOR COUPLE GUYS WHO WOULD MAKE A TRACKER FOR THIS...AS SIMPLY AS IT CAN BE....MAYBE THEY ARRIVE BY EVENING.