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An open message to FlAtMaN

Started by TwoCatSam, Nov 19, 02:40 PM 2012

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Robeenhuut

Playing FTL on any EC instead of sectors/splits or lines would be much easier  ;D And they do also usually repeat within 300 spins. Flat thinks that his bet is more balanced but its more about getting clusters of wins at the right moment in the progression. You can win  50% or more of bets here and still be in a negative territory. 
Matt

Ralph

Quote from: FlAtMaN on Nov 19, 04:54 PM 2012
Ralph,

You,as far as I'm personally concern,are indirectly insulting me.Why????
Suggesting that my excel numbers are fabricated......can't you read and check it with Wiesbaden,
you also can check/or any body else also/that i have downloaded each and every excel over 300 spins,all bay date,table,and suggesting something like against me can only man that is probably able to do something like that.Case finish.

I never say it was any fabricating, just the spins are done and will never come back. If you play the spins they should win, but the spins were never played by you it were other at Weissbaden, they were tested aginst numbers wich will never repeate ever or almost ever.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

FlAtMaN

Quote from: soggett on Nov 20, 01:47 AM 2012

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yes, if the last 9 splits are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and then 9 comes - that's the only time you don't do a thing, just rebet  ;)

JUST ALSO ERASE,CROSS OFF ABOVE SPLIT 9...SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE 9 SPLIT
IN YOUR VERTICAL LINE OF LAST 9.--thanks Sogget

FlAtMaN

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 20, 01:54 AM 2012
Playing FTL on any EC instead of sectors/splits or lines would be much easier  ;D And they do also usually repeat within 300 spins. Flat thinks that his bet is more balanced but its more about getting clusters of wins at the right moment in the progression. You can win  50% or more of bets here and still be in a negative territory.

Wrong,very wrong......do some testings with any outside E/C bets than compare it
with LvF-9---and you maybe notice great difference between these 2 bets.Flats doesn't think that my
bet is more balanced....HE KNOW THAT.......be a real tester then compare all those 34 winning session with any outside E/C bets then you will find out what am I about here.

FlAtMaN

Quote from: Skakus on Nov 19, 06:21 PM 2012
Iboba always was a hothead.

That is why I merried 7 times...lol

FlAtMaN

Quote from: Ralph on Nov 20, 04:13 AM 2012
I never say it was any fabricating, just the spins are done and will never come back. If you play the spins they should win, but the spins were never played by you it were other at Weissbaden, they were tested aginst numbers wich will never repeate ever or almost ever.

--I play it every day/just returned/and the results are same.and a method tested got nothing to do with past or present numbers,but the method as a whole.

FlAtMaN

Quote from: soggett on Nov 20, 01:09 AM 2012
Sam, I love your videos  ;D

I see what is bothering you

Let me see if I can explain
ok
lets say we have the last 9: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
and the furthest 9: 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18
all in that order,ok?
and we are betting furthest
lets say 5 comes in
now that is a loss
we now switch to betting last 9, BUT
you must update the last 9 properly and that is where you get it wrong
the last 9 are now: 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,5
because the 5 is the newest
that's why the 4 in your video doesn't match
you always have to keep changing the newest 9 splits regardless of what you bet cause after every spin the 9 last changes - if nothing else their order changes
hope this helps you, hope I written it ok, English is not my first language
any other questions, please feel free to ask

Bravo Sogget......that's where Sam and me differ......26 times,all documented have
told him that very same thing...hope he gets it now,really do.

FlAtMaN

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 19, 06:15 PM 2012
Well, well.....

All of the Excel sheets from FlAtMaN's thread have been removed.  What kind of deal is this?

TwoCat

The deal is Sam that after You oppened this thread/don't get the point why nor the reason for it/
and since it's your thread and you can there delete irrelevant posts out of topic,posts that some are spitting me all over,see this BUFFALLO  posts where he openly and sarcastically offended me,you as
thread maker should either deleted it or forewarn him/as I always do that in my threads/remember
when I deleted your post in my thread...you where openly ask why and you got my unswer.
This Turner calls me arrogant,couse he can't understand clear explanations of a method,and offended couse my replay to him was read carefull is all there on the plate....and now I become
arrogant and unpolite.You know how we call it here;never spit on the plate from which you eat---
and now finalmente------Should I LEAVE ALL THESE HARD WORKING EXCELS UNDELETED.....
No Sir...a man gives them life bet and they offend him......these that never ever contributed to
this community,but only sarcasam,insults,so called English humor.....why should I swallow all that.
No more....am changing ambient/could 7 vifes/and going where some BUFFALLO OR OTHER JUVENILE DON'T EXIST.

TwoCatSam

FlAtMaN

You and I do not differ.

We do not disagree.

You explained it 26 times but you could have explained it 2,600 times and I still would not have gotten it.  I have to see things in real time in a two-column format or I can't get it.  That's no reflection on you and it doesn't mean I'm ignorant.  If a man spoke only Greek, you could speak to him all day in Spanish and he would still not get it.  Speaking slowly or loudly just doesn't help. 

soggett

Thanks for your explanation.  I don't understand why you do that as of yet, but it's 4:30 A.M. in my world, I have just had three hours sleep and I'm not at my best.

Stepkevh

Yes, you built a fine tracker.  Only trouble is--when you look at the new splits on your tracker, how do you decide who is old.  That is where my Redneck Tracker comes in as you move magnetic pucks from square to square.  If there's a puck, it's new; no puck, it's old.  Now I have the splits clicker and I just move the numbers on the clicker!!  It's simple--BUT--I have to know the rules.  Thanks to soggett, I do.

Perhaps FlAtMaN will put the sheets up again and we can all have a go at it.

Sam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

FlAtMaN

I opened this thread because you said you wanted to lock yours, but could not.  Out of courtesy to you, I did not post any more on your thread.

Sorry, I am not a person who believes in deleting posts.  People have the right to express themselves.  "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

I understand what Ralph is saying.  It would not insult me.  He is saying these numbers are old and dead.  If you were playing live and real, he would not say that.  I disagree with him and agree with you; I think testing cold numbers is valid although that exact trot will not appear again throughout eternity.

Whether you believe it or not, I'm on your side.  Geez, what kind of fool would want anyone to fail??  I even want Jl to succeed!

So now, my brother from another mother, I'm off to try to understand soggett's post.

Let's be friends!  It's so much nicer!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

@ soggett

Of course I understand!!  If you update last when you're betting on it and it wins, you must also update it if you're NOT betting on it and it wins.  I don't know your first language, but your English is fine.

All

Even though soggett wrote out his splits horizontally instead of vertically, I was able to see the change when he made it.  You simply must speak in the "language" your listener understands.  Explain a triangle! Even worse--explain the color red.  Worse yet--explain a red triangle! Now show me a picture.  Get it?

Let's all "chill", as they say, and prove FlAtMaN has a winning system and go make some darn Eruos!!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Stepkevh

Sam,

The last 9 uniques are the last new,

so its easy to understand that all the rest are the oldest.

Stephan
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

TwoCatSam

Stef

Sure it is.  Not knocking your work.  Sorry if it sounded that way.  I'll have another look at it tomorrow.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

trebor

Sam,


Glad your understanding it now. It took a while for you and me both to get through all the confusion.
Now I get it, it looks so straightforward.


This splits clicker you mention. Is that your own private thing or is it somewhere on the forum?


Trebor

TwoCatSam

trebor

I have just made another (yet another!!) movie which I hope soggett and FlAtMaN will stamp with their seal of approval.  It is uploading as I type.  I have killed the other one as I don't want some poor soul to come across it and think it's right.

As to the clicker, in a few days it will be released.  Yes, I paid some money for it.  Everyone who uses it should, also.  More on that later.

The clicker makes it beastly easy to play this as you merely switch splits from last to furthest and vice-versa when the time comes.  (You have opened the clicker twice; once for last and once for furthest.)  Then hit "click" and watch it bet.

I think when you watch my latest production, if it's right, you will easily see the way to bet.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

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