200k spins and well ahead

[Ralph]

Another run, started the bot and relaxed for 1 Euro. This went down about 500 units. The progression was 50 units at the end of game. It was 569 spins.
Ended with  404 units plus.  The progression used is +1 every time we play a line, do not reset until new  high.
The method wait for the point the line start to cluster. Last spins was three hits in a row, which means the line hit 5 times.

[Ralph]

This is next run, and it went plus, as all up to now.  Lost connection with Bv and had to restart, it is about 100 more spins done than the picture tell.

[Ralph]

Continue some tests. 48 spins the bot stops if 100 plus. 111 plus this time.

[Ralph]

170 spins and plus  159. All won up to now. It will meet a loss in time.

[Ralph]

More spins, still making a small profit.(due to bet size) 111 spins and net is  172.
was deep around 600, so a bad run can take all winnings back. With lucky numbers we win.
This time I run semiautomatic using 0.01 on the Ec and 0.1 on the line.

[Ralph]

Just next, still not have losed, 104 spins. back around 230 using the same as preivios 0.1 on line bet 0.01 on EC.

Got  455 plus (0.01).  I do not think this will allways win, as not any I have been trying, still it is possible to win long time, and stay a head.

[Ralph]

The longest run, I was fearing it would bust, but a better streak comes so it ended with 348 plus.
The progression were 1+ every time a line in play, it went up to 161 units a bet. 907 spins.

Down about 2000 max.

I played 0.01 chips on lines and ECs.

Some thousend spins it has stand, which many methods can do, with a bankroll of 5000 units.

[Robeenhuut]

The longest run, I was fearing it would bust, but a better streak comes so it ended with 348 plus.
The progression were 1+ every time a line in play, it went up to 161 units a bet. 907 spins.

Down about 2000 max.

I played 0.01 chips on lines and ECs.

Some thousend spins it has stand, which many methods can do, with a bankroll of 5000 units.

Yeah

Lots of players assume that if something holds after large numbers of spins that it will hold forever.
I had debates on this subject with JL. His PB after 6000 games stands at 11/1  well above 7/1 average. I had some problems with his other stats but his run seems to be possible. If you run your system through 1M spins bad and good runs just average out and the expected result is a loss at HE rate. If you pick 10k or 100k spins playing one or 10 sessions a day then there is a chance to get a more favorable ratio of good runs. There is no way to avoid or minimize bad runs. You can only make some damage control when you meet them.

[Steve]

If you pick 10k or 100k spins playing one or 10 sessions a day then there is a chance to get a more favorable ratio of good runs

If you mean there is a difference between:

1. playing 10 spins/day for 100 days (1000 spins total)
2. playing 1000 spins all consecutively

Then I'm sorry you are wrong. Thinking otherwise is classic gambler fallacy. The old hit and run approach is very, very, very well tested.

Either way don't take my word. Just keep testing, but do enough testing to be statistically relevant.

[Ralph]

If you mean there is a difference between:

1. playing 10 spins/day for 100 days (1000 spins total)
2. playing 1000 spins all consecutively

Then I'm sorry you are wrong. Thinking otherwise is classic gambler fallacy. The old hit and run approach is very, very, very well tested.

Either way don't take my word. Just keep testing, but do enough testing to be statistically relevant.

I think there are no proper answer. We can say it does matter or it does not matter, we know for the 1000 spins afterwards.

In a very long test the evidence it does not matter will be more strong.

Specially for shorter test, we must see the difference between expected value and and the real.

Which is the chance  to stay a head  if you are, is a temporary status which will change in time, long or short. It is from that experience HAR has supporters.

What is all  waiting for different triggers, play a few spins, wait again if not a kind of implementation of HAR.  Leave the table while ahead, is understandable and hardly HAR, even if it often is just a kind of bookkeeping the winnings, and forget the losses.

There is nothing saying somebody never can get a very long period of very high hit rate, and the opposite is true too.

[Steve]

I'm not sure what you are saying.
Simply the more testing that is done, the more reliable the results are.

[albertojonas]

If you mean there is a difference between:

1. playing 10 spins/day for 100 days (1000 spins total)
2. playing 1000 spins all consecutively

Then I'm sorry you are wrong. Thinking otherwise is classic gambler fallacy. The old hit and run approach is very, very, very well tested.

Either way don't take my word. Just keep testing, but do enough testing to be statistically relevant.

The only way you can "disguise" gambler's F*** is to select the spins you interact with, using a trigger of some sort.
I observe that there is an average behavior in 1000 consecutive spins.
Maybe focusing on exploring some sorts of imbalance or strong deviations may get different results. At least it has been like that for me, and i tested more spins than i can play in a lifetime.
This is one thing, another equally important is to have a very thoughtful money management so you can get the most profit and the less risk of your betting opportunities.
I often read stuff here that shows a slight confusion on these 2 topics.
Cheers
Cheers
AL

[Steve]

The only way you can "disguise" gambler's F*** is to select the spins you interact with, using a trigger of some sort.

A system can have whatever "triggers" you want, but you need to carefully check if that trigger is an indicator that know the next spin outcomes with better than random accuracy.

First people need to understand WHY you must increase accuracy of predictions. It is explained at the free roulette strategy pages starting with :.genuinewinner.com/truth/

When the WHY is understood, people then understand they should focus on testing the working principles of systems and whether or not they increase accuracy of predictions. Not wasting time testing the system as a whole because it will not tell you more than testing the actual working principle.

For example... after 100 reds in a row, is black any more likely to spin next? Nope.

[Robeenhuut]

If you mean there is a difference between:

1. playing 10 spins/day for 100 days (1000 spins total)
2. playing 1000 spins all consecutively

Then I'm sorry you are wrong. Thinking otherwise is classic gambler fallacy. The old hit and run approach is very, very, very well tested.

Either way don't take my word. Just keep testing, but do enough testing to be statistically relevant.

There is no difference. You know that I'm no advocate of HAR.    I meant that if everything fails in 1M spins you still can get good runs in smaller number of spins.  That's the reason i posted this method. It has held well in 200k spins but i don't endorse it. I don't need further tests.

[Ralph]

There is no difference. You know that I'm no advocate of HAR.    I meant that if everything fails in 1M spins you still can get good runs in smaller number of spins.  That's the reason i posted this method. It has held well in 200k spins but i don't endorse it. I don't need further tests.

I did this test anyhow, as it got me 10 Euros!