200k spins and well ahead

[Robeenhuut]

I did this test anyhow, as it got me 10 Euros!

Yeah

At least you attributed your results to luck     Some guys guarantee it that their system will be always ahead. 

[albertojonas]

For example... after 100 reds in a row, is black any more likely to spin next? Nope.

It is not, for fact. However, as soon as that series break with a black, the next series of reds will most certainly be shorter than the previous.
By this i mean it corrects sooner or later. As you said "people,,, should focus on testing the working principles of systems and whether or not they increase accuracy of predictions"

I must agree 100%

[Ralph]

I think soon or later a cluster will come. That's make the question of stop/loss.

This method should not be better than any betting, if it not are so it wait for a cluster, which will come soon or later, may be too late of course

I have been running quite a few without a loss. The worse today, which last  827 spins, was down 1200 about, but ended 255 plus.

below the numbers:  the 827 last, as some is from session before.


26,26,19,24,25,29,23,11,15,35,31, 6,22,16,20,36,11,11,26,11, 0,34, 4,25,15, 5,25, 0,23,34,26,27,21,30,22,10, 4,35,33,34,25,34,14,26,19, 8,31,34, 5,27,25,34, 0,14,14,27, 6, 7,15,19,11,26, 2,19,36,17,31,17,24,32,31, 9, 5,19,26,14,23,11, 8,15,29,13,19,25,31,33, 3, 7, 2,23,36, 0, 9,17, 5,35,29,31,11,18,23, 7, 4,28,17,31,34,15, 5,33, 7,25,10, 0,23,15,17,30,21, 0, 9,16,23, 9,10,24, 4,11, 6,18,19, 7,16, 2,20, 2,36,32,11,29,36,21,21,15,31,29,31,23, 8,32,20, 4,15,17,14,34,15,30,11,11,23,28,21,34,36,36,10,15,12,20, 8,30,24,26,32, 3, 8,25, 6,11, 0,31, 5,11,11,11,12,13,31,35,11,12, 9,21, 4, 7, 6,26,14,15,16, 8, 0,16,30,29,19, 0, 4,34,29, 8,34,26,30,33,33, 9,36,22,15,35,22, 9,27,25,10,15,19,27,12, 6,27,27,12,32, 6,16,22,21, 7,16, 2,32,19, 1,35, 9, 3,10, 0,20, 1,27,16,33, 7,15,24,17,21,23,31,29,36,13,31, 4,21,35,17,32,28, 4, 8, 6,36,24,23,27, 9,24, 5,32,33,14, 4, 2,29, 0,17,30, 2,29, 0,25,16,15,21, 7,26,18,27,11,21,36,25, 3, 2, 7,23,11,20,25, 7,27,29,22,27,16, 0,11,27,21, 2,19,13,30,14, 2,23,23,13,15,27,17,18,33, 7,22,36,32,12,22,22,27,10,22,28, 0,10,20,19,31,21, 0,31, 2, 8,16,34, 8,11,36,32,13,34,11,18,33, 8,19,16,15, 3,27,13,11,25, 1, 6,15,36,32, 2,30,35,25, 0,16,19, 7, 3,23, 2,19, 3,12,26,22,20, 9,20,11,33,14,33,12,36, 0,22,17, 9,29, 5, 5,16,30, 9, 0, 7,11, 3,22,19,31,17,27, 5,24,31,24,26, 8,22,23,15,17,33,16,16, 6,12, 0,25, 0,31, 2,24,13, 7, 2, 3,14, 2,17,34,21,23,29,36,32,27,19,21, 0, 2,27,15, 5,25,29,25,13,13,11, 7,26, 0,25,17, 9, 0,11,29,10,12,33,23,35,29, 9,16,16, 1,12,26,25,26,32,20,10,25,34,19,31, 3,35, 6,30,12, 4, 8, 7,17,30,33,18, 2, 3, 8,14,31,14,30,17,23, 2,11,27,15,13,32,11,13, 1, 4, 8,22, 7,14, 8,16,26, 2, 2,19,15,25,25,22,19,27, 8, 3,24, 8,29,16,13, 3,17,11, 7,20,20, 4,12, 7, 4,11,19, 5, 6,33,27,30,14, 5,24,12,27,15,31, 8,15,22,29,15,12,14,18,19,22,22, 5,28, 7,24,19,32,17,21,12,32,29, 7,19, 9,22,22,24, 6,32,10, 6, 3, 3,34,20,33,33, 2,27, 6,12,33,26,23,24,13,34,20, 3,25,18, 5,32,21,35,14,35,28,16,23,14,10,29, 4,17, 3,25,12,28, 5,13,20,29,30,31,28,21,36,31,20,35, 4, 0, 5, 3,30,16,32,32, 5, 1,31,32, 2, 4,27, 3,18, 1,15, 2,22, 0,29,19,13, 8, 3,33,31, 4,16, 6,31, 2,27,28,28,25, 4,26,32, 9, 9,26, 3,21,36, 0, 4,30, 8, 7, 5,18, 3, 6,34,17,15,25, 0, 5,17,20,25,15,36,33,16,31, 1,15,31,19, 3,25,10, 7,17, 5,13, 5,10,26,28, 8,25, 4, 3,12,13,20, 8, 6,18, 1, 6, 8,19,14,35, 0, 2,27,27,34,23, 8,31, 0, 9,34,27,24, 1,34,11,13,36, 4, 0,31,35,31,21,13,32, 3,35,27, 5,29,18,24,17, 8,27, 0,36,21,26, 8,31,11,30, 2,15,15,10,28,14,22,18,24,26,17,29,27,13,18,29, 4,11,10,13,23,11, 8,29,26, 4,20,12,14,13,30,11, 4,17,13, 2,23,34,14,15,14,36,35, 8,13,28, 1, 3,28, 3, 1,24,34,36,27, 2,24, 7,13,21,24,26,27,25,26,21,25,22,28,31,23,28, 0,14, 5,14,30,30,22,36,15, 0, 6, 7,27,15,23,12,28, 2,15, 8,18,33, 7, 3,22,18,34,20,36,26,17,14, 8,17,26, 9,23,17,31,30,30,29, 4,17, 3,33, 2, 4,18, 2,31,21,28, 7, 5,24,11,17,28,28, 5,32, 1,22,28, 2,11,23,27, 1, 0,31,31, 7,13,35,34,18,16,21,21,31,15, 4,35, 6,24,26,33,24,10,23, 6,31, 8,21,30,15,20, 8,13, 3, 5,10,19,16,23,26,17, 0,36,28, 6, 4, 5,14,27,10,18, 8, 1,23,17, 8,11,12,25,28,30,30,

[Ralph]

Yet one more run. Last 173 spins. About 100 down at most. Won 105 units .
I will see how long it will take until I get a loss of 5000 units. 

The numbers:

12, 0, 8, 1, 4,31,23, 1,31, 9, 6,20, 0,13,20, 6,28,29,14,22, 2,32,11,28,23,36,28,16,26, 6,12,24,20, 7, 8,20,36,36,30,28,31,28,10,34, 8,18,36,15,18,15,10,22,33,34, 2, 5, 0, 5, 9,17,20,12,18,32,14,14,17,33, 4,25, 0,10,13, 6,22, 0,22,17, 7, 0, 8,26,33, 9,31,26,11,14, 1,33,18,23,17,25,32,26,12,28,16,34, 7, 9,31,17,10, 5, 7, 3,10, 9,16,15,14,21, 7,25,15,32,20, 0, 3,30,13,32,19, 7,36,13,23, 8,14,13,19, 3,27,28,33,17, 1,22, 6,24,22,30,27,33,14,14,20,25,17,11,34,18,13,17,27,30, 6,10,20,18,24, 8, 9,18,29,36, 1,25,34,36,35,

[Ralph]

This was rather short, 112 plus and  63 spins.  If you try it I advice using small stakes and be able to take a loss of 5000 units (50 Euro) whith a breeze.

The numbers.

2,33, 8,14,31, 2,32, 0,31,23,16,25, 7,34, 8,30,21, 6,17,16,16,18,30, 9, 0, 6,29,11, 7,31, 3, 0,17,34, 7, 1,27,22, 1,12,24,19,24,19, 2,10,14,32,33,23,28,17, 5,23,30,18,20, 8, 0, 2,35,36,35,

[Still]

This was rather short, 112 plus and  63 spins.  If you try it I advice using small stakes and be able to take a loss of 5000 units (50 Euro) whith a breeze.

The numbers.

2,33, 8,14,31, 2,32, 0,31,23,16,25, 7,34, 8,30,21, 6,17,16,16,18,30, 9, 0, 6,29,11, 7,31, 3, 0,17,34, 7, 1,27,22, 1,12,24,19,24,19, 2,10,14,32,33,23,28,17, 5,23,30,18,20, 8, 0, 2,35,36,35,

Ralph, so did you take a loss of 5000 units here?

[Ralph]

I has not happen yet, but it will at time, hopfully I got more in before. 

[Still]

I has not happen yet, but it will at time, hopfully I got more in before.

Ralph,

There's four numerical labels/boxes on the GUI that don't have labels saying what they represent.  Could you add those or explain those?

[Ralph]

Please have a look at the picture. The bot read tokens, a token for every possible bet.

7d12 is a bet on line  2.  Example  1s3 is the first street, 1c5 is the corner  1245
rr,bb,ee,oo,ll,hh represent the EC   ld,mdl,hd the dozen co1,co2,co3 the cols.
The scripts makes a string with comma delimeters and feed the bets to the bot.
It is the lowest number and a mark plus the highest number which describes a bet.
Single by the number.

[Still]

Please have a look at the picture.

Oh ok thanks. 

If you put all the test data in an excel sheet and charted it, what would it look like at this point? 

[Ralph]

Let the bot run during the night, it stopped at 877 spins. with  1383 units plus, the bet was  140, which means the progressions and lines has hit 140 times.

The numbers:

31, 3,10,29,21,10,36,26,17, 1,27,11,28,19, 7,36, 5,29,35,19, 5,34, 4,36,27,28,15,27,33,27, 2,29,30,30,19, 3,19,27,10,27,34,14, 1,18, 5, 4,11, 9,30, 3,17, 8, 7,36,35,18,24,10,10,33,17, 5,23,16,29,20,35,25,23,13,10,14, 7,11,15,13, 5, 9,21,35,25,17,35,15,18, 8,32,11,22, 0, 2,20,17, 5,13,32, 7,14,21,21,11,25,10,28, 0, 1,33,15,36,28,25,31, 2,10,19,21,26,27,27, 7,14,15, 4,14,30, 5,19, 0,22,13,22,23,30,28,19,28,11,35,32,24,20,35,31, 3,31,32,13,18,33,12,29,21, 0,16, 3, 6,14, 1,23,13,21,19,11,13,30, 8,26,24,30,33,10,11,13,22, 0,16,25,19,10,29,16,34,30, 6, 1,31,21, 2,33,32,21,14,33,10, 7, 4,22,19,25, 9, 2, 1,27,21,20,32,12, 6, 8,18, 9,16,33,11, 1, 0,25,27,10,12,22,16,36,25,25,18,13,36,26, 0,33, 7,25,11,19,10, 0,24, 3,34,19,29,13,12,10,14, 9, 9,21,16,29,28,26,14,36,25,22,13,15, 3,11,29,17,27,28,10, 0,34,23, 4,18,31, 0,11, 8,36,16,17,36,24, 3,16, 5,28,36, 8,27, 4,18,33,29,24,32, 1, 7,18,15, 3,25, 8, 8,23, 1, 4,17, 4, 2, 8,18,17, 5,28, 6, 4,20,13,15,16, 4,23, 8, 3,27,20,16,34,29, 4, 8, 2,22, 4, 7,11,21,13,33,25,30, 2,17, 5,34, 6,27,18,19,29,32,10,15,35,25, 6, 9, 4,22, 6,32,36, 8,12,23, 5,32, 8,16,10,33,12,23,31,18,16,11,16,28,19, 9,21, 4,32,19, 1,18,17,31,31, 5,20, 5,27,12,32,15, 3,22,16,34, 3,11,12,16,25,21,16, 3,23,17,29,22, 8,25, 1,35,10,17, 1,25,27,26,12,29, 8, 4,29, 2, 6,31,12,21,26,17, 9, 0, 0,11,19, 7,18, 6,34, 9,18,22, 5,33,22,15,16, 2, 6, 7,11,36,31,28,24,18,20,19,13, 9, 9,15,20, 6,27,30,15,16, 1, 0, 3,34,26,18,12,16,19,22,31,22, 8, 1,12,31, 5,20,32,16,15, 3,17, 3,21, 7,28,25, 5, 6,33, 6,20,27,26,19,27,30,35,24, 5, 0,15,31,22,22,11,16,15, 7,33,24,35,28, 4, 9,34, 8,20,36,19, 8,25,25,28,18, 9,25,28,15, 5,19, 4,14,23,30,22,18, 9, 4,10,30, 1,36, 2, 2,35,29, 8, 9,16,27,19,34,14, 8, 5,35,18,27,30,30,34, 3,21, 9,19,19,24, 7,18, 9,35,36, 2, 4, 3,18,27,34, 2,13,28, 0,10,35,20, 8,13,22, 7,33,21, 0,36,32,11,18,34,26,19,10,15,23,12,23,34,25,33,13, 2,19,19, 2,36,11,11, 9,30, 6, 7,28,17,32, 6,32,24,17,17,19, 7, 2, 3,27,35,21,10,36,32,24,32,35, 8,33,22,15,22,25,21,12, 9, 8, 4,22,25,19,25, 3,31,24,28, 7,17, 3, 5,34, 7,13,21,22, 3,10, 8,12,12, 4,36,15, 2, 7, 9,25,29,20,33,27, 7,14,25,19,34,11,13,28,11, 4,14,20, 1, 5,11,30,26,32, 1,32,13, 3,27,30,27, 0,21,30, 6,22,34,26,34,34,10,17,11,35,19,29,23, 3,32,34, 2,18, 3,12, 0, 2,18,18, 7,18,24, 3, 7,36,24,33,27, 2,29,19,26,12,32,35, 2,31,20,23, 2,24,14,16,22,29,33,11,13,12,27,20, 4, 3,16,34,17,29,21,18, 9, 5,16, 1, 5,11,30,24,27, 9,15,12,16,21, 7,29,27,35,17,28,28,17, 1,22, 4,19,12,27,31, 1, 7,32,33,35,31,15, 1,15,33,25,33, 4, 1,31, 4, 6,33,27, 7,19, 7,24,14,28, 9,14,26,15,17, 8,17, 2,12,31,29, 8,31, 2, 1, 7,20,19,26,27,27, 6,33, 8,20,16,16,14,22, 1,20,20,20,21,

[Ralph]

Oh ok thanks. 

If you put all the test data in an excel sheet and charted it, what would it look like at this point?

May work, but the bot is for the time designed for scripts only. The bot read the balance so the script just take care of the bets which should be returned.  I did not include excel this time, Steff took care of that, and if I am not wrong you has done work with an excel bot too.

If I type or feed just comma delimetered numbers, the bot will read it as bet straight up.
Feeding rr,oo,ll  will place on EC red odd and low

[Ralph]

Now I am total plus, so a disaster will go as worse to break even. Now we know wins as well as loss can cluster. Time will tell.

This run for 437 spins. 151 units plus. 

The numbers:

31, 6,33,12,24,16,22,12, 7,27,10,35,34, 9,13,15, 3,16, 4,29, 4,25,29, 5,19, 7,36, 1,36,36,29,12,22,17,24, 7,21, 8, 9,33, 6,34,19,26,31,26,21, 5,20, 0,26, 6,34, 5, 1,23, 2, 2, 7, 8,24,23,33,27,20, 2, 9, 7,19,17, 5,22, 1,34,23, 5,13,19, 7,31,10,35, 6, 1,34,18, 0,25,25,20,34,32,33,20, 4,18,36, 6,14,21, 8,18,20,10,24, 7, 4,25,11,32,22, 4,25, 4,32,14,24, 1,16,11,24,35, 2,12,17, 2,27,23,27, 7,31,15,35,17,16,22,19,26, 7,21,18, 2, 2,23,21,21,18,32,12,35,35, 4,27, 6, 0,30,17,32,29, 7,11, 5, 1, 2,15, 7,10, 2,12,15,20,14, 3, 1,20,19,35,23,28,32, 9,28,18,35,19, 7,13,14, 3, 1, 8,12,25, 4,12, 6,14,14, 3, 3,28,15, 8, 2,20, 5,20,30, 7,24, 4, 8,16,32,11,32,21,22,28,12,27,19,19,28,24,33,32,25, 7,31, 0,21, 2,17,28,12,14,12,18,16,11,35, 1, 0,34, 9,14,20, 7,28,24,31, 8,23,14,22, 9, 1, 7,27,22, 8,11,30,35,32,18,28,35,22,18,21,35,33,25,21,22, 1,21, 3, 6,25,20, 2, 8,24,31,27,29,20, 5,20,12,19,33,23,19,18,28,23, 1,18,11, 7,10,28, 0,21,14, 7,19,24, 7, 8,32,27,25,35,28,16,28,17,25, 8,19, 0, 9,14,35,18,25,26,16,20,33,20,27,32, 3,28,27,21, 3,14,34,11,34,36,22,27,33,10,32,25,27,15, 9,18, 6,32, 2, 0,23,31,19,36,24,10,30,15,27, 2,36,36,27, 1, 1, 2,10,31,24,26,36,33,15, 5, 6,18, 8,22,15,18, 3,28,11,35,34,16, 0,23, 9,20,23,31,10,36,29, 2,20, 5,30, 3,35, 8,16,14,26, 7,12,20, 0,30,30,29,34,36,35,21,30, 5,27,16,12,11,10,12,31,

[Still]

May work, but the bot is for the time designed for scripts only. The bot read the balance so the script just take care of the bets which should be returned.  I did not include excel this time, Steff took care of that, and if I am not wrong you has done work with an excel bot too.

If I type or feed just comma delimetered numbers, the bot will read it as bet straight up.
Feeding rr,oo,ll  will place on EC red odd and low

Ralph could you cut and paste the results from where they are stored into an Excel sheet so the data can be visualized as a chart?  Even if its just the results of each session, it would be helpful.  Then we just need to know how many total spins. 

Was your bot written in VB6?  I recently found my old disks of VB6 and installed it on my Win7 machine.  Yes i was working through VBA and took a couple days off to enjoy the indian summer in early October.  Somehow i lost my concentration.  I left off just before figuring out the code to read the numbers.  Something wasn't working and i just dropped the ball.  That's not how i normally work but lately i've noticed i easily quit projects that i start.  I'm too proud to ask you or Stef to see your code cause i know it must have been a lot of hard work.  VLS got the ball rolling, i carried the torch for a while, and Steph finished up his way and you finished up your way.  Anyways, this forum really needs more scientific testers who do what you do.  So i think it would be overall helpful to share the executable  with those who would use it to test.  It looks like Sam used Stefs bot to run some interesting tests. I think that's great.

[Ralph]

Still!

I know Excel is a kind of standard, but I do not use Excel at all.
The program is written in  Vb.net 2012 it is a free one from microsoft. I used VB6 before But it is lost with a stolen computer. I had to learn the new, and this is the first program I wrote using net.
15000 lines of code. Net has more features, but less forgiven in the coding. We do not use variant as type. Similar to Java in some ways.